RPG [Dreamania] Succubus Rhapsodia (RJ181931)

SFrame said:

Has anybody got some anal action yet?

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Strange said:

edit: oh, I'm pretty sure the romanised hero's name is "Lawrence"... I can't remember where I know/suppose that from, though...
It might be "Laurent", a French name... After all, I think "neijuranju" comes from "Oronge", the "Amanite des Césars", a rare mushroom... I might also be wrong here. Anyway, anything beats "low rat" by a large margin...

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Mimi said:

A good indicator to capture a girl is the heart icon appearing over their head, after an action. A triple heart is the maximum.

In my playthrough, I used to talk to them a lot and "accept" their attack (when you have a resist QTE, you can accept it with the cancel key. They like it a lot and it's a really good way to increase the mood quickly, but it can be very risky).
I had a near 100% catch rate with this method but the fights were really long, though.

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Strange said:

That being said, I hope the English community, this time around, does more than just sit around.

If someone is willing, a github project would be great for dabblers like me to help around, either just translating, or scripting in new English movesets/dialogues... That would require some knowledge, and informing the devs we're doing so.

I know I won't have the required time myself, but I hope to see a project at least the size of the MGQ Paradox one bloom...

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SFrame said:

The biggest problem I bumped into however was the Talk skill - I couldn't find the text for when you use the Talk skill on enemies. I'm guessing it's in the .rb files in the system/talk folder, which I've also little experience with. @.@

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Mimi said:

I haven't done anything ruby related in years (I'm more of a C++ guy).

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saber6 said:

I don't know why but I don't have the percentage of the mood. Can someone explain to me if it is bugged my version or if I have to enable something in the option?
Thanks in advance

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Mimi said:

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I took a look by curiosity.
You just have to open "C_Talk.rb" with notepad++ or something, in system/talk/monster_folder (for example "05_LesserSuccubus_07").
I can clearly see the text.

Can't help more, I haven't done anything ruby related in years (I'm more of a C++ guy).

EDIT: I saw your edit too late.

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Strange said:

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Grab notepad++ if you don't already have it:

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it can edit .rb (ruby) files without "harming" them - unlike basic text editors. There's also a handy 'compare' plugin you might want.

No Ruby knowledge whatsoever is needed to edit the japaneses strings. Speaking Japanese, or alternatively being creative or imaginative enough, however, would help lots...

I'm not so hot about the 'talk' files being external - they're the ones slowing down the startup THAT much, but they're easy enough to edit for anyone, that's the plus side, I guess.


I haven't used Github much, and that was some time ago, but it is really great for managing such projects. Basically, you work on 'clones' of the base project, can browse all files easily, break down or compile larger files, compare any and all changes with a new patch, or with another helper's work... It's really great IMO, perfect for this specific job, for what little I've seen and used of it.

I'll (finally!) buy the game this w-e, but the next time I work on it, I think I'll need to have a serious look at the message interpreter issue ('w', 'y', 'H' disappearing & replaced by hearts, pauses... [rant]Dang commuters and dang non-unicode...[/rant]). Advice from Ruby/RPGM badasses would be appreciated.

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I've watched some tutorials, and I think I get a good idea how to use it. I'm uploading my translated files to it now (edit: linked below in p.s.), with the scripts in their own .rb files. Will post a link of it when done.

And about that damn message interpreter issue (caused by Window_BattleLog):
- I've commented out the lines for \y since I haven't found the scripts using it anyways.
- For some reason \n doesn't make "n" disappear; haven't figured out why
- for "m" and "w", I replaced all my translated "m"s and "w"s with double-byte versions. The double-byte "m" is pretty much indistinguishable using the game's default font; the "w", only if you look closely.
- for "q" and "H", I've done the same as I did for "m" and "w", but they're ugly as fack; unless I find out why "\n" plays nice but the others don't, I'll probably change these out for numbers (like \5, or \2, unless that's already a command...).

I've still kept all by \y untouched so far, because I didn't have a complete grasp of the game yet. Now that I feel more confidant, I'll probably start fixing the problem.

p.s. made

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- Figuring out github from conflicting tutorials gave me a headache, so the stuff I uploaded isn't much different from what I had a week ago. Going to sleep after editing this post.
- The translations are quite invasive because I don't know enough ruby (or even programming above the barebones basics) to do much else than replace strings.
- It's stable though; only the occasional aesthetic bugs as of translation v1.01 (based on v1.08).
- I've broken down the Script.rxdata into sections in .rb files. The prefixed numbers on their file names keep them listed in the order when they're listed in the RPG Maker script editor.
- Fresh gitnoob here; hope it's acceptable/legible enough.

Strange said:

Grab notepad++ if you don't already have it:
it can edit .rb (ruby) files without "harming" them - unlike basic text editors. There's also a handy 'compare' plugin you might want.

No Ruby knowledge whatsoever is needed to edit the japaneses strings. Speaking Japanese, or alternatively being creative or imaginative enough, however, would help lots...

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SFrame said:

And about that damn message interpreter issue (caused by Window_BattleLog):
- I've commented out the lines for \y since I haven't found the scripts using it anyways.
- For some reason \n doesn't make "n" disappear; haven't figured out why
- for "m" and "w", I replaced all my translated "m"s and "w"s with double-byte versions. The double-byte "m" is pretty much indistinguishable using the game's default font; the "w", only if you look closely.
- for "q" and "H", I've done the same as I did for "m" and "w", but they're ugly as fack; unless I find out why "\n" plays nice but the others don't, I'll probably change these out for numbers (like \5, or \2, unless that's already a command...).

I've still kept all by \y untouched so far, because I didn't have a complete grasp of the game yet. Now that I feel more confidant, I'll probably start fixing the problem.

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Strange said:

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Quick answer, if that helps:
- \y inserts a "wait_count" (4,8 or 12 depending on system settings). \m and \w as well, with another delay - I'm not sure what is the 'default' one for message display. I'll give a try with "slow" battle speed sometime.
- \n inserts a line return (the \n commuter is native to RPGM) which is reinserted in the log by: $game_temp.battle_back_log += "\n". Still unsure why the line return command isn't applied in that case, but it's a good clue, I'll look into it.

Edit: 2 examples of possible solution I'm not so satisfied with:

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if c == "\H" and text.size == 0
#
# basically, only draw a "Heart" if it's the last character in the string
#
heart = RPG::Cache.picture("heart")
self.contents.blt(x + 6 , 24 * y + 10, heart, Rect.new(0, 0, 16, 16))
x += 16
# 次の文字へ
next
end



# ウェイト文字(長時間)の場合
if c == "\w"
# ウェイトを入れる
case $game_system.ms_skip_mode
when 3 #手動送りモード
@wait_count = 1
when 2 #デバッグモード
@wait_count = 3
when 1 #快速モード
@wait_count = 4
else
@wait_count = ($game_system.battle_speed_time(1) * 3)
end
$game_temp.battle_log_wait_flag = true
# 今の座標を維持して返す
@keep_flag = true
@last_x = x
@last_y = y
#
### return
# theoretically, now "w" will show now - as a character OR a commuter
#
end

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Mimi said:

I made a quick program to dump the interesting lines (the ones where tx[] is modified) in a separate file, modify them and then put them back in the .rb file. It's rudimentary but I will share this later if someone is interested (I need to clean up the code first).

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Mimi said:

I'm done with what I promised, check the attachment.

It's to dump the text from the .rb files of the system/talk folder, to make it a bit easier (hopefully) to translate.

Intructions and source code are included but here's a simple step by step :
1) Drop the ".rb" file(s) on extract.exe
2) Open the new file (same name, with ".dump" added at the end) with notepad++ or something similar and start modifying.
3 optional) Make a backup of the .rb file that you want to modify. (Simple precaution)
4) Drop the original ".rb" file and the modified ".dump" file on repack.exe to put your translated text in the ".rb" file.

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  tx["tx1"] = "「うふふっ、逃げちゃだ～め♪\n　ほらぁ、もっと可愛い声出してよぉ\\H」" if $msg.t_target.crisis? #対象がクライシス
  tx["tx1"] = "「んふふ、可愛い顔しちゃってる\\H\n　もっとしてあげたくなっちゃうなぁ……\\H」" if $msg.t_target.weaken? #対象が絶頂中

SFrame said:

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Neat! That's pretty cool; however I found it important to be able to read the code alongside the strings, so that I'd know how the dialogue was used (the whens, the ifs, the developer's comments). I.e., I need context xP.

Example 1:

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For example, I've decided to go with using Strange's translation of the Facesit skill (from "Exciting View"). I needed to know exactly what line of dialogue was used from which skill, since the literal Exciting View combat messages were as vague as the original skill name itself - there was very little about sitting on anybody's face, only stuff along the lines of ~'showing the target her intimate area'.

Example 2 (probably a better one):
In the case of these talk events, context is also very important (imo):

Code:

  tx["tx1"] = "「うふふっ、逃げちゃだ～め♪\n　ほらぁ、もっと可愛い声出してよぉ\\H」" if $msg.t_target.crisis? #対象がクライシス
  tx["tx1"] = "「んふふ、可愛い顔しちゃってる\\H\n　もっとしてあげたくなっちゃうなぁ……\\H」" if $msg.t_target.weaken? #対象が絶頂中

The "if $msg.t_target.crisis? #対象がクライシス" tells me that the message is meant to tease a nearly-climaxing Laurat. Same for the "if $msg.t_target.weaken? #対象が絶頂中", which denotes that the message is directed toward a just-climaxed Laurat. I'm not critically fluent with Japanese yet, so I wouldn't be able to tell from the message's text alone.

I think I will however use your tool if I find any non-context dependent talk files though. Thanks!


Now we just gotta fix those disappearing m/w/y/q/H letters. Gonna play around with the script some more, but hopefully Strange's found a solution.

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Mimi said:

Well, I was thinking of keeping some context but I was not sure how to do this without overcomplicating things. I went for the simplest.

I could change the code to keep at least the end of the line (for those having a if statement following the string), if you want.

EDIT: maybe I will try to get the when statement which seem relevant, I got some ideas.

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SFrame said:

I'm personally not too worried about it, as the Japanese strings pretty much pop out of the code, and I have strings highlighted for me in my text editor; it's pretty hard to miss 'em.

I'm just having trouble understanding what sort of mad sorcery guides the underworkings of "gsub"... the messaging system's got it all over the place, and google's presuming too much of me xD. My migraines have gotten me to the point where trial-and-error is the most efficient method fixing things, lol.

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Strange said:

Lol headaches are also coming my way this w-e; I'll buy the game and try to spend some time flirting with the code... No promise.

I used these guys a lot before for my Ruby needs: ruby-doc.org/core-2.1.4/String.html#method-i-gsub-21

In the current case adding "p c" like:
while ((c = text.slice!(/./m)) != nil)
p c

should help you understand what's going on. The message is actually deconstructed, then actually displayed character-by-character. Using 'slice!' make it so 'text' is chewed up little by little ("abcd"->"bcd"->"cd"->"d"->nil), hence my text.size == 0 previous attempt :/ (stoopid 'cus nil has no size... -_-)

What I fail to understand, is how c == "\m" can be triggered by "m" OR "\m"... And I'm wondering, how to FORCE it to recognize actual text from commmuters... I'm thinking, either altering the message string before the loop, or finding a satisfactory 'condition' (which was my first objective...). Well, I'll just throw a sample string in there and see what it spits out, depending on the alterations... Meh.

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