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Hello and first of all thank you for the time that you are using by reading this.

In this post I want to talk about a new page that I'm making in collaboration with another person and it is called adult pledge, our objective to make this page is that we want to create a place were adult creators can actually be in the open, without being hidden under the carpet as it happens with patreon.

The main three points that we want to show are exactly the following:

-An adult page: In this page only those that are +18 can create an account.

-Visibility: We want that people can find any adult patreon thanks to a search engine that in the future will lets you find those patreons that have the kinks you like and none of the ones that you ban.

-Compromise & security: As many of you know patreon has been becoming more restrictive regarding to adult content creators, this is because they are developing a relationship with paypal, which is one of the most active fighters against anything related to adult content. In this page we want creators to feel secure, because of that we won't be able to change what we accept as adult content at out own discretion. What is accepted today will be accepted tomorrow.

As many of you can understand there is a big risk that patreon will become even more restrictive in the future and perhaps one day they may even ban adult content from their site and enter a full partnership with paypal.

Even more right now it's easy to see a few of the possible directions, because now they don't accept rape that means that mind control has quite a big risk right now, another fetish that could be easily a target are those based on monstergirls or non human creatures, because they have banned bestiality so it would be a very possible next step.

We aren't asking people to fully trust us, just that you may give us a chance be it if you are a creator by making a page there too while maintaining your current patreon one and if you are a supporter by trying us too even if it's once.

I sincerely thank everyone that have read this post and to end this post I would like to add a link to the page of adult pledge.



Please ask us any doubt, problem, question... even more give us feedback about what we can do better, or any grammar mistake that we may have.
 
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I think your link is broken.
Just copy-paste the text into the url bar. If you're lazy, .

Also OP, there's a few spelling errors on the home page:

1. Under "High Profits," it should say "Adult Pledge's project can pay" instead of "Adult Pledge's project can pays".
2. in the "About us" section of the page, it says "We Kepp" instead of "We Keep".
3. In the "About us" section again, it says "We are a Crowdfunding platform that enables creators get high visibility for their work and art". I think the intended message was "We are a crowdfunding platform that offers high visibility for creators' works" or something along that line. Bit confused by that one.
 
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I think your link is broken.
I have corrected the link now.

Just copy-paste the text into the url bar. If you're lazy, .

Also OP, there's a few spelling errors on the home page:

1. Under "High Profits," it should say "Adult Pledge's project can pay" instead of "Adult Pledge's project can pays".
2. in the "About us" section of the page, it says "We Kepp" instead of "We Keep".
3. In the "About us" section again, it says "We are a Crowdfunding platform that enables creators get high visibility for their work and art". I think the intended message was "We are a crowdfunding platform that offers high visibility for creators' works" or something along that line. Bit confused by that one.
Thanks anon we are gonna modify that soon.
 

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Ok, question(s):
So it looks like you guys are located in Brazil and it seems servers are too (well, mail server seems to be in California, but doesn't matter). Are guidelines based on law in Brazil? Because it seems like most reasonable thing to do.
Another thing, didn't see anything about VAT for European customers, but maybe I am just blind?
Next, seems like you are using Payza... and OH BOY. I am not seeing positive reviews about them so they may be on same shit tier as paypal. What makes you think they won't go batshit crazy over adult content? Or are trustworthy in general? I don't have a lot of trust in Canadian based company when it comes to adult content.
 
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Ok, question(s):
So it looks like you guys are located in Brazil and it seems servers are too (well, mail server seems to be in California, but doesn't matter). Are guidelines based on law in Brazil? Because it seems like most reasonable thing to do.
Another thing, didn't see anything about VAT for European customers, but maybe I am just blind?
Next, seems like you are using Payza... and OH BOY. I am not seeing positive reviews about them so they may be on same shit tier as paypal. What makes you think they won't go batshit crazy over adult content? Or are trustworthy in general? I don't have a lot of trust in Canadian based company when it comes to adult content.
Ok I will answer bit by bit:

We are currently using payza however we aren't satisfied with them, first of all their fees are quite high and they force a 10% chargeback protection fee for 6 months before it arrives with the creator, we are trying to find a better option at this moment.

Yeah everything is based on brazil.

Lastly we haven't focused yet on the VAT because we are kind of in beta for now, we are trying to make a deal with nutaku so that they help us with the technical things related to payments and give more security to the users of the page.
 
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Ok I will answer bit by bit:

We are currently using payza however we aren't satisfied with them, first of all their fees are quite high and they force a 10% chargeback protection fee for 6 months before it arrives with the creator, we are trying to find a better option at this moment.

Yeah everything is based on brazil.

Lastly we haven't focused yet on the VAT because we are kind of in beta for now, we are trying to make a deal with nutaku so that they help us with the technical things related to payments and give more security to the users of the page.
That's interesting, especially part about trying to get a deal with nutaku. Well, let's hope it will work and then patreon goes insane on adult content, or more like, paypal loses their mind and forces them. Since I am from EU, I will just wait and see how it turns out. Good luck, hope everything goes well.
 
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That's interesting, especially part about trying to get a deal with nutaku. Well, let's hope it will work and then patreon goes insane on adult content, or more like, paypal loses their mind and forces them. Since I am from EU, I will just wait and see how it turns out. Good luck, hope everything goes well.
Well the most important thing about our page is that it could prove incredibly useful in case patreon becomes insane or just decides another restrictive policy change saying that it only has effects on "a tiny number of creators" etc.

The current risk that multiple developers have at the moment is, what would happen if patreon decided to ban adult content?. Most of the games that are being cancelled it was just because they didn't have any other option and this situation is something that I truly want to solve.
 

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Well the most important thing about our page is that it could prove incredibly useful in case patreon becomes insane or just decides another restrictive policy change saying that it only has effects on "a tiny number of creators" etc.

The current risk that multiple developers have at the moment is, what would happen if patreon decided to ban adult content?. Most of the games that are being cancelled it was just because they didn't have any other option and this situation is something that I truly want to solve.
Yeah, I get it as it makes sense. I just wanted to hear a response to my questions to get a general feeling about who is behind it and if they looked into patreon and their main problem.
Assuming Patreon goes insane after enough kicking from paypal, having established system with focus on adult content is going to make a great business opportunity and seriously, if I am going to hear something only about doing a good deed and saving all those projects, I am not buying it. I am not saying don't run your campaign on it if you want, but don't deny when asked out.
Though, letting people that pledge have anonymity from other pledgers should be an option. Not everyone want to choose their common username by mistake so people can see they like furry porn or something :]

Well, we will see how it goes, a lot will depend how much patreon will allow themselves to be kicked in the balls while asking for more.
 
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Yeah, I get it as it makes sense. I just wanted to hear a response to my questions to get a general feeling about who is behind it and if they looked into patreon and their main problem.
Assuming Patreon goes insane after enough kicking from paypal, having established system with focus on adult content is going to make a great business opportunity and seriously, if I am going to hear something only about doing a good deed and saving all those projects, I am not buying it. I am not saying don't run your campaign on it if you want, but don't deny when asked out.
Though, letting people that pledge have anonymity from other pledgers should be an option. Not everyone want to choose their common username by mistake so people can see they like furry porn or something :]

Well, we will see how it goes, a lot will depend how much patreon will allow themselves to be kicked in the balls while asking for more.
You lost me, ok when did I say that I was doing this because of pure kindness?, I can understand that you must be an objective person in the sense that you are seeing the business opportunity, at the same time that you forget the risk of failing.

If you want to define all of it then it's "profits + kindness - risk". You want to know me a bit more then I will explain, if you take away both profit and risk I would still try it, if it's only kindness and risk I wouldn't and in any other case I would (obviously except only risk).

I didn't deny anything in that comment, those are simply my personal feelings over the issue, I play many adult games that are produced in patreon and it would be something lost if they couldn't continue and even more I don't want that many creators that worked hard to make those games to have a bad ending like having their game cancelled, however of course I want to succeed, of course I want to have profits. Is it so strange?.

What I mean to say is, exactly how would you campaign about the page or anything you do?, I'm not selling that I'm doing a good deed, I'm selling the main point why a creator would find interesting to have an alternative. The ironical thing is that if you wanted to get a general feeling about me then you failed until now because you didn't ask.

I hope that I didn't offend you in any way at all but I feel that I had to make this point clear because it was kind of unfair how it sounded when I read it (of course it could be just my interpretation)
 

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Don't treat any comment below as a form of being a jerk or some kind of "attack", if it sounds like that, I can assure you it is not.
You lost me, ok when did I say that I was doing this because of pure kindness?, I can understand that you must be an objective person in the sense that you are seeing the business opportunity, at the same time that you forget the risk of failing.

If you want to define all of it then it's "profits + kindness - risk". You want to know me a bit more then I will explain, if you take away both profit and risk I would still try it, if it's only kindness and risk I wouldn't and in any other case I would (obviously except only risk).
Yeah, I can tell you got confused by that, no worries. Anyway, never said anything about you doing stuff because of pure kindness.
" if I am going to hear " indicates a future possibility. Before that is the assumption of Patreon going haywire on NSFW and if that possibility would happen, it will create a lot of sites that will literally call themselves "saviors of adult content" in place of Patreon. That's where already established part comes in. And you will see a lot of them screaming that it's not about profit. More or less it was a general statement with slight assumption to get a response, so I can make something out of it while comparing to expectations.
I didn't deny anything in that comment, those are simply my personal feelings over the issue, I play many adult games that are produced in patreon and it would be something lost if they couldn't continue and even more I don't want that many creators that worked hard to make those games to have a bad ending like having their game cancelled, however of course I want to succeed, of course I want to have profits. Is it so strange?.
I don't deal with feelings, so I am going to skip that part (well, I do deal with 'feels' but in a completely different context).
I like digging and finding stuff before jumping on and so far my only problems are with payze, to which I liked your response and VAT, to which I perfectly understand that answer too.
Well, pretty much everything after "I don't want that many creators" would be enough for a response, though, I expected it would be something like this, so it wasn't exactly for me.

What I mean to say is, exactly how would you campaign about the page or anything you do?, I'm not selling that I'm doing a good deed, I'm selling the main point why a creator would find interesting to have an alternative. The ironical thing is that if you wanted to get a general feeling about me then you failed until now because you didn't ask.
I am going to disagree on that "failed" part. That's all.
I hope that I didn't offend you in any way at all but I feel that I had to make this point clear because it was kind of unfair how it sounded when I read it (of course it could be just my interpretation)
Don't worry, you did not, it's very rare for me to get offended by anything. Meaningless stuff aside, I know how it sounded. Still better than some comments you will get and have to write long ass reply to explain everything. Got my response, so far I like it. Now it's just waiting and seeing how it develops.
Good luck with this and hopefully we will have a good alternative to shit that is Patreon at this very moment.
 
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