Re: Echidna Wars
It's a discussion forum, people come here to discuss things. Sometimes people don't like the topic at hand. This isn't rocket science.
I like Milia Wars because it's well done and more forgiving in difficulty, this is sog for very easily fixable reasons.
Now let me go through each point here:
I can't understand you, I'm quite fond of this Game and sometimes I try to kill 0 Enemies before I reach the Goal. In my Opinion, this Game is still way to easy. Did you ever play the original Game, Militia Wars? THATS Frustrating. Killing the Endboss without Cheatengine is close to impossible.
Yes, I have played it. Yes, it is hard. But here's the thing; it usually gives you a fair chance to know what to do right off the bat instead if having a Lamia rush after you like a baby on crack on the second screen with enemies. You can see what's coming easily and have room to move around and dodge, if you die you can blame your own lack of skills because the game was so well designed that you had every chance you needed (minus the annoying slow turning).
This game has smaller screens but keeps the same speed and durability for the enemies, which doesn't work on a smaller screen because you can't move around enough and can't actually react in most cases. You end up dying and must learn from what happened by exploting a cheap tactic that you need to survive, or having to do a frustrating pixel perfect jump to avoid the conflict, which is made a chore by how big and fast some of these creatures are. It's called bad design, they don't tweek what was there for the smaller area and create fake difficulty resulting for this. A game that forces you to find stupidly cheap work arounds for the most basic actions as the only real means of not dying is broken.
I mean, you can easily hover over your Enemies. Thats like 70% of the entire Game! The other 30% can be easily killed with the Wolfgirl, just smash your Buttons.
Yes, but you have to find out much of this through trial and error, especially the wolf girl tactic, and even then it sometimes doesn't work if you're worried you might smash a key into oblivion. Even hovering is made far too tricky, with more complex platform layouts covered in enemies, leaving little room to really move around or position yourself. It's possible, but it's not fun. It's just frustrating.
If you cant believe me, I will record myself. Yep, not killing any Enemie that can be avoided.
I believe you, and I believe any game is beatable, but I also believe games this faux hard are not enjoyable.
What inquisitor was trying to say was, if YOU don't like the game, well.. That's just too bad, and you're going to have to go lick your wounds in a nice dark cave while everyone else has fun with it..
I'm not the only one saying this game is heavily flawed. I know the designers can do better, which is why I criticize. There's possible greatness but not in it's current form.
Also, this does not devalue your opinion, but you guys seem to mistake criticism and discussion for attacking you all with a flamethrower, that somehow giving actual reasons for not liking something and pointing out major mechanical flaws means I want to murder the people making this game (obvious hyperbole here).
Now.. If A LOT of people don't like something about the game.. That's a little different.. And then, judgment can be swift and cruel apon the devs..
For that to happen, we need to sit around and argue about how flawed the game is until the cows come home, and then some mods start barking at us for babbling.. (That is, if they haven't decided on just joining in the shit fest WITH us.. [Post #76] )
See, the reason no one has brought their foot down is because there's actual discussion here. No one has outright insulted anyone. It's heated, but no one hates anyone involved and it's on topic, discussing the strengths and faults of the game. People can discuss their problems with something, their opinions are not invalid as the same with yours, as stated earlier.
Having an actual discussion beyond "man this is fun lol" isn't a bad thing, it's a normal thing.
And then maybe, and I use that term sparingly.. Maybe, someone might actually decide to talk to the dev, and directly tell them what they think, having been inspired from all the bullshit we tossed around the thread about it..
So, y'know.. Pick your poison..
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Or, we can always just go with plan B..
Stfu, and wait for it to develop.
Yeah, no.
If I want to discuss my problems with something, even in development, I will. It's not attacking anyone, it's pointing out how I feel and I've managed to back up my views rather well. The faux logic of "IF YOU DON'T BLAH BLAH DON'T BLAH BLAH" doesn't work when it's valid criticism and the party in question thinks there's possibilities here, and there are. It only really applies when someone comes on a thread to say over and over "ALL OF YOU ARE DUMB HURR HURR" which no one has.
Basically, calm down and accept that others might not like the thing that you like or might have a valid problem with it.
I already stated my case, I'd rather people respond as mature adults (as most of us should be considering this isn't a place for kids) instead of trying to white knight when it's not needed at all because no one is outright attacking anyone.
