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So... i didnt follow this game for over a year how far is the Developement of the game, in meaning when does it come out?
I want a Full Price game(Please with Dogs, as someone suggested above ;)
I Very well understand that this is ART and art takes some time, but as one very famous artist once said if you want to make your art PERFECT you will NEVER Finish it.
I really, really want that game(even when it is not my Cup of tea with the Robot things).

If somebody would answear me back i would be glad to know more.
 

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They are currently busy revamping the system with no new demo to show for it except for some nice pictures.

Don't waste your money it's been over a year since the last update and honestly they've used the same area and enemies for like the past 3 updates too.
 

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Its the same shit as always? Patreon gives them money and they never finish there Project?! Reason for this would be the high amount of money they make through JUST there first Project?!
Like so many other highly anticipatet Projects on patreon that go on for years and years with minimal updates but high value of promises?!
Please dont tell me its just like that
Oh well the greed that swallows it all.
 
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Dev state that all the money were used to funding project along with their slide of life as in 'actual work' rather than hobby, so the massive funds are needed to inject the project's life spend.

Which is maybe true as they work in team and stuff not just one or two guy alone but I'll not say those what they state or their behavior are right or wrong --- or how much truth worthy they can be - it is almost impossible to grasp the reality on internet as we can only receive what we see and we can't feel a thing out of our monitor.

As we are sane individual see many project pop out of the blue, some are have development pages, some are not. I can hardly say how long they took to release such thing or how many people they given into project but many are just trash or quick money that has little to none value at all.

Now that we have 'patronage site' to help out those dev live an easier life, some were abuse these platform, some are heart content with them - we can't judge much of those who want to live a little bit more comfort than the other project that not have such 'successful fundraiser' rate.

So what about us then ? I believe we, a sane individual can decide to help them out fund them in for their better life or just wait outright and see how the project goes.
It's inevitable that some are impatient about a 'good project' and can't wait to see them come out some days but when involve development log - things will heathen up even faster than non-logging development as we can follow bit by bit how the project goes and it can easily make us become even more impatient.

I'm not saying that you should stay and wait but rather --- avert your eyes else where and find better things to follow for not all nice game come out quick - or seen a good shape, even a highly crappy game took about 1 ot 2 years to finish and all its good is only CG while core gameplay are hardly playable. Well....just ignore that matter is for the best - is what I'm trying to say, I guess ?

So yeah, even how much we throw in the money - it doesn't matter with how will the project take shape as it all based on dev movement, all the promise I see in such project for how big or small they be - it's all a false promise that will never fulfill unless it fully take shape some day - which is why I'll support some of them in a kind of minimal effort and would wait all the way til it's end in one way or another.

I didn't even bother ask for refund even the project gone razed in some point(aka Divine Arm) As I already help them out in their project - that is my will to support someone who need a unique talent like art to make a living out of them as I believe some that not have such successful funding rate were living in struggling hell to make those talent able to aid them in life - I'm not a rich person so I'll never support anyone in a long run, only result is matter to me.

Let's just say ... the end justify its mean eh ?
 
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While the updated graphics certainly look fantastic, people have paid for more of what the demo offered originally. Patreons seem to have this issue where they seem to think that they need to make the absolute perfect game, if the creators had continued making the game they had originally put the demo out for, we might be close to the end and when it finishes they could move on to a more ambitious project, unfortunately we won't see this project finished now for at least a year or two if it ever does since the failure rate of these kinds of things is ridiculously high.
 

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Seeing as how this game might not even be a great mix for my personal preferences in an h-game, I'd be very reluctant to start donating to begin with. I guess if the public demo was more interesting then I'm expecting it to be then I'd be more inclined to reconsider, but the public demo doesn't seem to be available at this time.
 

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While the updated graphics certainly look fantastic, people have paid for more of what the demo offered originally. Patreons seem to have this issue where they seem to think that they need to make the absolute perfect game, if the creators had continued making the game they had originally put the demo out for, we might be close to the end and when it finishes they could move on to a more ambitious project, unfortunately we won't see this project finished now for at least a year or two if it ever does since the failure rate of these kinds of things is ridiculously high.
Exactly. Why not finish the original game idea first THEN add new stuff and revamp it after once you have a full game already >_>.
 

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How can you barely have a few levels done in a freaking RPG maker game and it's been like a year and a half. I also have no clue how they have kept the massive pledge amount they get. Always an excuse, lots of promises but no vision to follow through and get shit done.
 

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Exactly. Why not finish the original game idea first THEN add new stuff and revamp it after once you have a full game already >_>.
Because said revamping can make the content creation pipeline quicker? Assuming they're still full-steam ahead, once MATM is finished they may have a very robust foundation on which to create subsequent games at a higher pace, since they can then concentrate on creating content and making minor back-end improvements. Overhauling the art style could be construed as "firefighters setting fires", or it could be seen as getting closer to their original artistic vision. And once again, if you subscribe to the former possibility, it's as simple as not pledging. I haven't since the last release because I also want more playable content in exchange for my (very limited amount of) money, but if everyone behaved the same, the only people who could say for sure whether development could continue at the same pace and afford them the ability to fulfil their ambitions are the developers themselves.
 

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How can you barely have a few levels done in a freaking RPG maker game and it's been like a year and a half. I also have no clue how they have kept the massive pledge amount they get. Always an excuse, lots of promises but no vision to follow through and get shit done.
They keep their pledges because they regularly provide thorough technical explanations of what they've been doing, complete with images and before-and-after comparisons. They even put out a few engine test programs to get usable feedback on how well their engine runs on different systems. Eromancer and co are building an engine for h-games, with their own h-game as the maiden (har har) product, and that's a much more interesting project to invest in than "I give them money and they drip-feed me porn".
 

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Exactly. Why not finish the original game idea first THEN add new stuff and revamp it after once you have a full game already >_>.
Exactly my thoughts too, thats why i said it will never be FINISHED as the Artistic mind goes they want there project PERFECT and it will NEVER be PERFECT. It just takes to much time and Promises for the Fool masses, but mostly many H-Games that are on patreon are not Finished and will never be, because they take the money and promise Golden Games without any Ultimatum for the Finished Product. Patreon Games are mostly a Shitshow for the fools imo. People Pay so much money just for minor tweeks and at the end the TEAMS go full on "Hate Speech"(lol) against each other "Breeding Season"(How long was this shit in Developement)? Or another game Towergirls Conquest(Something like that) they do not even want to make it an H-Game anymore, WTF;/

I see many Japanese RPG maker Devs Putting there(Quality) games out there as fast as possible and they make many of them, especially Megrim who even developes NEW things for his oldest game andmakes new stuff for all of them but still puts new game developement on his Blog, or even Happylife Happypink and many more Great Developers putting there games out constantly and they mostly work ALONE.
Now people spend so much money on patreon and they DRAG there developement out for; Release:TBA.
That is just Ridiculous, ITS A SHITSHOW.
I would LOVE to spend money for so many products out there, but it would not HELP at ALL, because they just take the money and get more and more IDLE and LAZY. Why the hell do they even want there Project(There First) to Finish/Release?! They make so much money just with Promises, HELL NO. Most of them do NOT want to FINISH it.
People Support this Scheming Practices of the so called Golden Games(If it comes out it should be Gold Plated) and do not realise that there is a so called system in the Human Brain that is called GREED, IDLE, LAZYNESS and ARTISTIC VISION(Perfect).
 

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While the updated graphics certainly look fantastic, people have paid for more of what the demo offered originally. Patreons seem to have this issue where they seem to think that they need to make the absolute perfect game, if the creators had continued making the game they had originally put the demo out for, we might be close to the end and when it finishes they could move on to a more ambitious project, unfortunately we won't see this project finished now for at least a year or two if it ever does since the failure rate of these kinds of things is ridiculously high.
Exactly
 

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Yeah, MATM really isn't an example of what you're talking about. I agree with what you're saying - devs who try to perfect their games, or artists who try to perfect their art, will never do so because you need to make mistakes to learn, and you need to learn to come anywhere close to perfection. And I agree that investing so much time, effort and presumably, money, into developing their RPGMaker "fork" might not be the most efficient use of time. While feature creep may well be at play, there's no evidence to suggest they're just sitting on their laurels and watching the cash roll in. The posts detailing what they're doing being Patreon-only engenders distrust for sure, but for people to have continued to contribute to their Patreon they must have some substance behind them which, as Slam Sector describes above, seems to be the case
 

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Yeah, MATM really isn't an example of what you're talking about. I agree with what you're saying - devs who try to perfect their games, or artists who try to perfect their art, will never do so because you need to make mistakes to learn, and you need to learn to come anywhere close to perfection. And I agree that investing so much time, effort and presumably, money, into developing their RPGMaker "fork" might not be the most efficient use of time. While feature creep may well be at play, there's no evidence to suggest they're just sitting on their laurels and watching the cash roll in. The posts detailing what they're doing being Patreon-only engenders distrust for sure, but for people to have continued to contribute to their Patreon they must have some substance behind them which, as Slam Sector describes above, seems to be the case
Well, as he/you Describes imo,People 3 YEARS ago put money into MalisseAndTheMachine the Porn RPG game Download our Demo HERE.
Now they Fund: TheMachine-TheMachine-TheMachine-TheMachine-TheMachine-TheMachine Technic-Porn Look at our Technic-Porn HERE(Patreon).

Very Funny Indeed ;)
 
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Well, as he/you Describes imo,People 3 YEARS ago put money into MalisseAndTheMachine the Porn RPG game Download our Demo HERE.
Now they Fund: TheMachine-TheMachine-TheMachine-TheMachine-TheMachine-TheMachine Technic-Porn Look at our Technic-Porn HERE(Patreon).

Very Funny Indeed ;)
 

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Breeding Season 2.0.

*edit: ...I think I actually posted a concern about this ending up like that about seventy pages ago or so. I think my post history got deleted by forum update? I haven't been here in a while.
 
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I fixed the link on the original post to the public demo! Sorry about that!
 

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Is some form of coherent release scheduled within the next six months?
 
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