Would you be so kind and just leave already, seriously. If you are one of the many people who haven't invested a dime into this project, you have no investment in its success whatsoever, so why are you even here?
Because I might want to invest at some point? Basically, who are you to tell me to go away? Are you the developer? Do you represent them in a legal fashion? Are you their PR guy? I don't think you're any of those, so basically, you've got no room to speak.
If you have invested in it, then you knew, or at least should have known the inherently risky nature of kickstarter, patreon or offbeatr projects. You have only yourself to blame for investing in these kind of projects and feeling "betrayed" afterwards.
If I put my money in the bank, I trust that bank to keep an eye on my money and have an explanation when it vanishes for no reason. If I invest in stocks, I have the expectation that the company I'm investing in will be making money and the value of my shares will go up. There is an inherent risk in investments of any kind, yes, but you know what the banks and investment agents
don't say when your money is no longer increasing? "HURF DURF THERE'S A RISK! YOU HAVE NOBODY BUT YOURSELF TO BLAME!" Hell, you don't go to the board of a major comapny/franchise when you start bleeding money with that bullshit excuse. You make damn sure you can explain shit or start tendering your resignation. Oh, and then that company has to make cuts to make up for the losses.
If you don't believe in the information the devs themselves put out
Then there is a reason and instead of blindly defending bullshit, you should consider why someone would be skeptical about a developer with a poor track record so far. Right now, you're blatantly expressing the kind of position that turns the majority of would-be investors away from something, and makes current investors consider pulling out. You're blindly defending a project that has been mismanaged and is now getting its just criticism as such. Defending it and telling naysayers to "go away" only hurts the developer. You might think, in your limited way, that you are doing good and helping; but, the simple fact is, you're doing just the opposite. Your next point in this paragraph is fallacious and utterly ridiculous. I won't bother attacking it because there's nothing of substance worth attacking.
You are clearly not interested in taking the risk involved with backing inexperienced developers that just pursue a passion.
Not that it's any of your business, butI have invested in kickstarters. I supported the devs for
Malice and the Machine and pulled support when the progress they were making didn't satisfy the investment I put in. I support for 6-10 months and saw so little progress and too many excuses to justify continuing my support. I invested in a platformer that launched a year or so ago and pulled support mostly because I didn't like the direction it was going. Nothing against the developer or their progress (because it was pretty consistent), but the content wasn't to my liking. I supported that about 6 months. I invested in a 3D monstergirl game for 6 months, even going so far as to campaign on multiple forums for the game to attain further funding and public presence. I've invested in a couple other projects that, for one reason or another, I've withdrawn my support from. Of those, Only 2 have disappointed me.
I won't bother with the rest. It's again a fallacious argument with no basis in reality and you expect everyone to limit themselves the way you limit yourself in order to criticize the project. Also, you don't need to be a musician to criticize a song, buddy. You don't need to be a developer to say something is shit, and anyone who argues otherwise is losing the argument already.
They are incompetent. They are as incompetent as the rest of all the devs on this forum.
Fallacious. I've seen a lot more developers on this forum alone make better progress than the MoGi devs. Hell, ToroToro Resistance has released the third part of a visual novel and two parts to an rpgmaker with more assets, more detail, more
everything than this game. The developer for Monstergirls and Sorcery has produced more than the MoGi devs. Zell23 has provided more updates. I could go on for hours on who has done more work, more consistently than these guys. I could go on for hours and beat you down so horrendously that they would need a an actual backhoe to dig your dignity out of the hole I buried it in. Basically, your point is not just stupid, but so utterly misinformed that addressing it further is bullying.
They are laymen, they all are. Who are you to expect them to get everything right on their first try, of course they don't, that is what I meant by saying that you take a risk supporting those projects. All you do with your shitty posts about this game being dead despite not giving the devs even the chance to defend themselves, is discouraging them to interact with the community or even to continue working on their project.
The thing is, nobody expects them to release a stable build without bug-testing, and even then, for something unexpected to pop up because that shit happens. Hell, look at a majority of the responses to new/ongoing projects with a working demo and/or consistent build releases. Bugs. Errors. Grammar. Nobody expects a miracle of programming, writing, etc on the first try. Hell, the majority of responses since the developers of MoGi Origins returned to the forum has been "that's neat, but where's the proof?" It's not unfair to expect substance for such a long period of nothing. Telling people to "go away" and "you took a risk, it's your fault!" is not just stupid, it's utterly childish. Shame on you.
If the developers feel "bullied", it's their own damn fault. This isn't victim-blaming. They are beholden to investors to produce, and, failing that, explain why production has slowed/stopped, or will be doing so. They chose to wait 2 years to explain this. You realize how utterly unprofessional this is, right? Oh, and don't tell me I can't say anything on the matter. This is a (mostly) public forum, and I can add my two cents if only because I might invest if they show a legitimate turn-around. You have no authority or right to tell others to go away. Don't like it? Open your own forum. Nobody will miss you.
It is you, not me, who should grow up and accept that you are supporting laymen here. No AAA devs. They will do as many mistakes as they will get something right. If you are not willing to take the risk in supporting them, if you'd rather support the next unimaginative RPG fuckshow, just because they wont be delayed, then do so and don't discourage these devs, who are just normal people, to follow their dream, which you can support on your own accord!
This entire paragraph is utterly stupid. First-off, you're a layman. Triple A developers are made up of *gasp* laymen. You think Todd Howard does everything in the development of every Bethesda game? Or Peter Molyneux programmed everything in Fable? No, those are talking heads. They have so little actual input in a game, and the majority of programmers, etc are generally over-qualified/under-paid nobodies you'll only know about if you invest the time and effort to look into their project history. Otherwise, how many programmers can you name who worked on Mass Effect 1 without looking?
Secondly, investments are a risk, but a risk with the expectation that I am getting something of substance in return. This is a basic concept that a child grasps, so kindly explain why it is so difficult for you to comprehend. Oh, and thirdly, this game isn't exactly a fucking masterpiece of programming. I've played flash games, Unity games, etc that share several qualities with this game. I made a point about re-inventing the wheel in other dev's thread wherein all these devs who try to build a new engine (as the MoGi guys tried) and only manage doing something slightly different to what already exists are basically wasting time. If the wheel already exists, you don't ignore it because your head is too far up your own ass. You take that wheel, paint it another shade or, better yet, tweak it to be a better wheel. Hell, this one autistic anon talking about a children's card game sums it up perfectly:
Finally, the argument "b-but they're not Triple A" is also completely stupid. A Triple A developer fucks up, too. EA is living proof. What the consumer expects is for the developer
not to blame them and tell them that they're the problem, but to apologize for the fuck-up, receive their criticism, and then say they will do their best to avoid that same fuck-up and actually mean it through their actions. That isn't unreasonable, either, and is a sign not just of maturity, but a commitment to re-establish the faith of the people you are already beholden to, and the people you hope will become invested in your product. If that's too hard a concept for you, personally, to grasp, then I can't help you. Hell, the entire tone of your posts has been that Chris Crocker video years ago where he cries like a baby and tells people to "leave Britney alone!" Hell,
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