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Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

Anyone got the latest version of this yet? The one posted in earlier in thread is only v1.01, as opposed to v1.06.
 

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1.06 makes the game much easier than 1.01, those who like a challenge may not want to upgrade.

On the other hand, the timing of some events was also altered in subsequent patches in response to player feedback so older saves may not carry over well with an upgrade.
 

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Not that people actually read what I post, but I think I mentioned that the fairy forest arc could easily be passed provided you learnt how to cast magic. To do so, visit the magic shop around noon on the 1st day of the free-roam period and talk to the magician. Go to the guild and register yourself with the new class. After that, follow the mage upstairs to the teleport circle and then to the back of the island that he takes you to.

You are then free to spend the rest of the day with him tagging along. He departs from your party at eight so make full use of him to fight scorpions on the beach and get some experience.

The next day at noon, head over to fight the warrior after putting points in fire and lightning spells. It's surprising how much easier the warrior is once the status debuffs from spells take effect. The forest is also much more doable.

Alternatively for those of you who hate the difficulty curve of 1.01. download 1.04. The developer nerfed the difficulty of a lot of bosses at the start even though he managed to finish his own game in 50+ hours at 1.01 difficulty.
Which magic shop? In the city the shop with the circled-star above the door is 'not opened yet' and apparently never opens (at least that first day), and I can't find a magician (or such) in the ones that sell items or potions. Also checked the village, but no joy there either.

though let me be sure I am at the correct point: just finished going to the Lab/dungeon with Iruda (killed the zombie, saved the fairy, killed the big, blue wisp, opened the door, went through with group and fought demon w/gargoyles, left and found unconscious priest, rescued nun from golem, took nun to orphanage/Iruda's place, blew up kitchen to get message of 'two free days'). Walked out of there to run into caravan guy who talked about fairy and carnivorous plant trouble. (whew) Is this where I am supposed to go back to the city to find the magician and learn magic? Because I certainly can't kill that big plant at the end of map 'Fairy Forest 6' as I am (tried as lvl 17 student / lvl 20 apprentice adventurer and it was hitting me for around 1k).

Other questions (for whoever):
1) Where/how (can?) I learn healing magic?

2) I am currently playing v1.01... I have seen a number of people talking about newer versions with fewer bugs, but I have been unable to track them down. Any clues?
 

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Which magic shop? In the city the shop with the circled-star above the door is 'not opened yet' and apparently never opens (at least that first day), and I can't find a magician (or such) in the ones that sell items or potions. Also checked the village, but no joy there either.

though let me be sure I am at the correct point: just finished going to the Lab/dungeon with Iruda (killed the zombie, saved the fairy, killed the big, blue wisp, opened the door, went through with group and fought demon w/gargoyles, left and found unconscious priest, rescued nun from golem, took nun to orphanage/Iruda's place, blew up kitchen to get message of 'two free days'). Walked out of there to run into caravan guy who talked about fairy and carnivorous plant trouble. (whew) Is this where I am supposed to go back to the city to find the magician and learn magic? Because I certainly can't kill that big plant at the end of map 'Fairy Forest 6' as I am (tried as lvl 17 student / lvl 20 apprentice adventurer and it was hitting me for around 1k).

Other questions (for whoever):
1) Where/how (can?) I learn healing magic?

2) I am currently playing v1.01... I have seen a number of people talking about newer versions with fewer bugs, but I have been unable to track them down. Any clues?
Once more, now with Japanese text.

During the first free-roam period, go to the magic shop in town from noon onwards. It's in the western part of town north of the gate to the slums. At this point, there should be a stalker-like person in front of a horse cart who acts like a free taxi. You can travel to the village, the entrance to the dungeon and the main town. Within the main town itself, select the option 魔法屋前まで and the shop is just to your left.

Once inside, go through the door you can see and talk to the magician. Follow the instructions and you'll be able to cast offensive magic.

As for the big plant, you're not supposed to kill it at this point in time (short of cheating). If you're not playing with a text translator, I suggest you do so and follow what the translator gives you. If you can't, post again and I'll see if I can post a rudimentary walkthrough from memory on how to complete the fairy forest quest.

Healing magic you can learn using two methods. The first is to acquire skill books for heal, cure and the other healing magics. The second is to acquire the apprentice sister class (and later the Miko class but I haven't made it that far) and level up. Options to improve existing spells and acquire new spells will be made available.

Short of buying the game from Dlsite and re-downloading 1.06, lurkers here are out of luck.
 

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Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

ahh! thank you!

yes, I am playing with a translator (which is occasionally helpful, but often mind-boggling! lol ) - chitrans2

Any help with the fairy quest would be awesome... I can't seem to understand the object (if not to kill the big plant) or where I am supposed to go from 'mug Roland's meandering dialog.

thanks again - will have to bumble through with 1.01 I guess; DL site and my CC don't like each other :confused:
 

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Fairy quest walkthrough (Working from memory here):

1. Kill the warrior trying to sexually assault the orphanage girl. The conditions required to trigger this fight are as follows: As soon as you're released to roam around for two days, head westwards out of Iruda's house and past the orphanage. Once you make it to the main road, a scene will trigger with the heroine and the merchant conversing and talking about the trouble in the forest. You are then encouraged to go back to the village up north THE DAY AFTER FROM NOON ONWARDS (as of 1.01). Doing so will trigger a short scene and the heroine will discover the warrior in question. When this condition is triggered, you are not allowed to leave the way you came in.
2. Prepare yourself with items and equipment and enter the forest.
3. Make your way to area 7, rescue your fairy friend.
4. You need to win the first two battles, when the horde of fairies arrive to take revenge you probably won't win. Once you get thrashed, the merchant friend saves you and joins your party.
5. The big plant guarding the top of area 6 cannot be beaten and shouldn't be attempted at all. Do what the fairy tells you and head for the teleport circle on the west end of area 3. (This is why the developer tells you to take notes when exploring the fairy forest, not that anyone with a translator bothered)
6. There'll be a scene when you get to the circle, now you can enter a new area and will need to battle a sub-boss before you can rest.
7. After getting past the unavoidable thorn bushes, repair your equipment and get ready to cross the passageway with flowers on both sides.
8. Sub-boss fight: This is hard but if you can cast magic it's doable. Take note that the fairy has a limited number of healing and support items she can extract from the merchant's bag of tricks so don't mess around and finish off the flowers quickly before you're overwhelmed.
9. Once you win, there'll be a fairly long scene moving the story along and telling you what to do next. Basically your next stop is to head north to the fairy cave. It's in area 14 (big waterfall)
10. Make your way there by heading northwards after following the only route out of your safehouse.
11. There's a few bonus areas to help you level up, but you probably won't need them unless you're seriously outclassed.
12. There'll be a short dialogue when you get to the entrance to the waterfall and the giant scorpion breaks into the secret cave. You'll be prompted to prepare your character (I suggest a save at this point) before chasing after the scorpion.
13. Another sub-boss. The scorpion has the same weaknesses as the regular versions. The fairies will support you in the background but don't get too cocky. Your merchant friend can help you a lot in this fight if you give him the right equipment and select the right skills.
14. Beat the scorpion and you'll access the fairy merchants. Stock up on what you need and head westwards to find the fairy queen.
15. Before you enter the spot which triggers the battle, I suggest you save and prepare your equipment once more.
16. Fairy queen boss fight: She's hard. You'll get support from your friends in the background but it's less reliable than the previous scorpion fight. The only thing to watch out for is the fairy queen's exceedingly powerful meteor shower attack when she's injured enough (she'll say something along the lines of run away when you hurt her enough). As long as you survive that attack, the back-up from your allies should be sufficient to keep you alive and kill her before she kills you.
17. Win that battle and you've finished the fairy forest arc. Your reward is probably a slightly different storyline progression in addition to the items and levels you received just from going through the forest.

Considering the above still forms much of the game's prologue, I'm surprised nobody else bothered to post something more thorough. I'm not the first one to complete the above quest and others now have probably finished the game already given the amount of time that has passed.
 
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Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

Does anyone by any chance have a link for ver1.06? It would be greatly appreciated, this game is awesome but so damn difficult.

Thanks.
 

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Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

God Danm U Virgin bug... there it goes my miko class...

Anyway... im kind of stuck i at last have finally cleared zombie invasion throught sheer grinding to lv 30/38 but.. im stuck again wth do i do after zombie invasion? D:!
 

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woohooo!

thank you (yet again) #206 Harleyquin13!!

finally, simple enough instructions even *I* can follow them!
 

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Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

how to beat the boss at 20th dungeon floor? i think theres supposed to be a way to stop him from regenerating or something
 

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16. Fairy queen boss fight: She's hard. You'll get support from your friends in the background but it's less reliable than the previous scorpion fight. The only thing to watch out for is the fairy queen's exceedingly powerful meteor shower attack when she's injured enough (she'll say something along the lines of run away when you hurt her enough). As long as you survive that attack, the back-up from your allies should be sufficient to keep you alive and kill her before she kills you.
not being meguca is suffering
 

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how to beat the boss at 20th dungeon floor? i think theres supposed to be a way to stop him from regenerating or something
Two methods: There's one way using magic and the other without. If you're a magic user, level-up enough to use the most powerful spell that fire-elementals are weak to. If you're not, you need to pay a visit to the ice palace and beat the boss that's over there. There'll be an item which halts regeneration and will help melee classes.

The latter part took me a long time to figure out. Ultimately I finished this boss using the former.
 

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This game has apparently been updated to version 1.11, does anyone have a link to this new version? The only links I could find were for the 1.01 version.
 

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Note that the difficulty has apparently been reduced for the later versions, those who enjoy grinding for hours so they can brag about how they're all "NES Hard"* may enjoy it less.


*Which is an ironic way to put it because it wasn't the RPG's that were hard on the NES.

Does anyone know if the virgin bug is fixed in the later versions?
 

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Note that the difficulty has apparently been reduced for the later versions, those who enjoy grinding for hours so they can brag about how they're all "NES Hard"* may enjoy it less.


*Which is an ironic way to put it because it wasn't the RPG's that were hard on the NES.

Does anyone know if the virgin bug is fixed in the later versions?
The virgin bug is a problem for 1.02 thereabouts, it's been noted and fixed for the latest version.

No one has uploaded the latest version for leechers to enjoy, so you'll have to wait.
 

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Again if someone is still interestede i found how to remove the four colored blocks in the exit of the underground labyrinth 35

They're in underground labyrinth 35 - Left Up, Left Down, Right Up and Right Down.

Toa access let's say 35 - Left you have to go all the way left and find the paths, only one of the paths will take you to the other area, the others will take you back to the other side of the area you're in.

You can recognize that path because it is marked with something, a square that has a stone, a bit of grass or something like that

The other paths have only sand around.

Warning, the mark must be in a room not in a road

rooms blue and roads are purble in the minimap.

Second warning, i'm half blind so could have got the colors in the map wrong, i can hardly even see anything in the damn little thing
 

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Re: いせたん [RJ130644]

Any mega link to the lastest version?
 

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...
Already make halfway Partial Translation (1.01) ...
but since this game heavily updated, I stop the translation, until the updating slows down ...
(and seriously, even for PT, it's not easy to translate NEAR A THOUSAND Item, Skill, weapon, Armor and Enemy ... even it's just their name without description)
I definitely don't want to update my Partial Translation for this game ... *shrug*

EDIT :
I Upload save at Day 3, just go at northern Village at noon, and the event for Fairy Forest will take place ...
Already ...
1. Have tons of money
2. A bit Empowered character, but definitely still have HARD time at the boss of forest without event ...
3. Already unlock Mahou Shoujo / Magic Girl Apprentice Sub Job ...
4. MC Already learn plenty of basic spell
Fairy quest walkthrough (Working from memory here):

1. Kill the warrior trying to sexually assault the orphanage girl. The conditions required to trigger this fight are as follows: As soon as you're released to roam around for two days, head westwards out of Iruda's house and past the orphanage. Once you make it to the main road, a scene will trigger with the heroine and the merchant conversing and talking about the trouble in the forest. You are then encouraged to go back to the village up north THE DAY AFTER FROM NOON ONWARDS (as of 1.01). Doing so will trigger a short scene and the heroine will discover the warrior in question. When this condition is triggered, you are not allowed to leave the way you came in.
2. Prepare yourself with items and equipment and enter the forest.
3. Make your way to area 7, rescue your fairy friend.
4. You need to win the first two battles, when the horde of fairies arrive to take revenge you probably won't win. Once you get thrashed, the merchant friend saves you and joins your party.
5. The big plant guarding the top of area 6 cannot be beaten and shouldn't be attempted at all. Do what the fairy tells you and head for the teleport circle on the west end of area 3. (This is why the developer tells you to take notes when exploring the fairy forest, not that anyone with a translator bothered)
6. There'll be a scene when you get to the circle, now you can enter a new area and will need to battle a sub-boss before you can rest.
7. After getting past the unavoidable thorn bushes, repair your equipment and get ready to cross the passageway with flowers on both sides.
8. Sub-boss fight: This is hard but if you can cast magic it's doable. Take note that the fairy has a limited number of healing and support items she can extract from the merchant's bag of tricks so don't mess around and finish off the flowers quickly before you're overwhelmed.
9. Once you win, there'll be a fairly long scene moving the story along and telling you what to do next. Basically your next stop is to head north to the fairy cave. It's in area 14 (big waterfall)
10. Make your way there by heading northwards after following the only route out of your safehouse.
11. There's a few bonus areas to help you level up, but you probably won't need them unless you're seriously outclassed.
12. There'll be a short dialogue when you get to the entrance to the waterfall and the giant scorpion breaks into the secret cave. You'll be prompted to prepare your character (I suggest a save at this point) before chasing after the scorpion.
13. Another sub-boss. The scorpion has the same weaknesses as the regular versions. The fairies will support you in the background but don't get too cocky. Your merchant friend can help you a lot in this fight if you give him the right equipment and select the right skills.
14. Beat the scorpion and you'll access the fairy merchants. Stock up on what you need and head westwards to find the fairy queen.
15. Before you enter the spot which triggers the battle, I suggest you save and prepare your equipment once more.
16. Fairy queen boss fight: She's hard. You'll get support from your friends in the background but it's less reliable than the previous scorpion fight. The only thing to watch out for is the fairy queen's exceedingly powerful meteor shower attack when she's injured enough (she'll say something along the lines of run away when you hurt her enough). As long as you survive that attack, the back-up from your allies should be sufficient to keep you alive and kill her before she kills you.
17. Win that battle and you've finished the fairy forest arc. Your reward is probably a slightly different storyline progression in addition to the items and levels you received just from going through the forest.

Considering the above still forms much of the game's prologue, I'm surprised nobody else bothered to post something more thorough. I'm not the first one to complete the above quest and others now have probably finished the game already given the amount of time that has passed.
...
Damn, that's one big MISSALBE arc ...
restarting my game just to finish the arc ...

...
(Update) as far as I know how to activate "Sub Job" ...
1. Adventurer Apprentice ...
How : Start at story when you first time enter guild
Requirement : None

2. Magic Swordman Apprentice ...
How : (Should bring doctor to guild, but he don't want to go with me)
Requirement : You need Mahou Shojo (Magic Girl) job for this, and I only found the event triggered at noon, and this also AFTER zombie attack ...
This also need certain level from "Mahou Shoujo Apprentice" AND "Adventurer Apprentice" ...

3. Tool User Apprentice ...
How : there's a Person 2nd F office (offering food) but you go instead with him to guild ... (or it should be, but it didn't trigger any new Sub Job for me)
Sorry, he don't give anything ... probably need Merchant at northern Village ... can't find him tough ... (probably need non Virgin ?)
Edit : there's high chance, you need to do Fairy Forest arc to make the merchant appear ...

4. Kaito / Thief Apprentice ...
How / Requirement :
- Go to bank 2nd F at early game, I beat him up and get 60.000 (I talk to several Maid at 1st F)
- Save thief at Underground jail (at Zombie Siege) and sent him to Bank ...
- Go back again at 2nd F Bank, and talk to him ...
- Go to Guild and it will trigger Thief Apprentice Sub Job

5. Sister Apprentice ...
How : Bring Father (priest) to Guild to trigger this event (only for Virgin)
Requirement : Virgin
Note: somehow my game bugged, and it's instantly give to me :confused:

6. Mahou Shoujo Apprentice ...
How : Early in game when you enter Magic Guild / Shop, and talk to person at north, bring him to guild and it will trigger the event (Only for Virgin)
Requirement : Need as Virgin, Talk to Zakku (Magician at Magic Guild) pass 12 Noon and bring him at guild

7. Knight Apprentice ...
How : I kinda forget this, but maybe automatically after Zombie attack ?
Requirement : Pass Zombie attack event

Advanced Sub Job
1. Adventurer
How : Pass Zombie attack event
Requirement : Certain Level from "Adventurer Apprentice"

2. Mahou Shoujo / Magic Girl
How : Pass Zombie attack event, and go to Magic Shop
Requirement : Virgin, Certain Level from "Mahou Shoujo / Magic Girl Apprentice"

3. Magic Swordman
How : Meet the doctor again at Slum
Requirement : Certain Level from "Adventurer", "Mahou Shoujo / Magic Girl" AND "Magic Swordman Apprentice" ... You also need reaching Lv 21 at Dungeon of Light ...
 

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I have no confidence in machine translations by users who miss entire chunks of the game, but that's my opinion and everyone else here who is stuck can either wait for more "patches" or PM Iceforge and the other players who have gone pass labyrinth level 30 for help.
 
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