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DMM/Fanza VS Nutaku (or any other websites)


neonocturne

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Just wondering how everyone's experience on those large sites?

Good? Bad? Recommendations? Got some shamings to throw at? Anything we should know? Any shady deals? What about good deals?

I have only been on those 2 sites and I can only say: I will never revisit Nutaku ever again. They shut down 3-5 games during my short stay. I don't think I have seen any proxies running F2P games so bad that they have to pull the plug so fast (one of those games was new when I first visited the site and it got shut down like 3 months before I gave up Nutaku). I was very interested in making a purchase, but...I had enough in how they run things before the transection. I still feel like I made the right choice in abandoning that ship.

My DMM/Fanza experience is so much better overall in every game. It felt more rewarding playing on DMM/Fanza than it is on Nutaku. The art, voice acting, in-game system, UI design...I don't fully understand Japanese at all, but I can cope with MTL. Also recognizing some Japanese seems to be just fine.

I know there are posts on Nutaku's games long before I visited them, so I am like a young chick in the big sea. What other sites have F2P adult gamed? Any of them good? Which ones to avoid? Please feel free to fire away.
 

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i use to play on nutaku, i was there when nutaku only have like 4 games on their website like aigis war and valkyrie. now they shut down both games literally over nothing. from what i see aigis war doing fine then out of nowhere they drop announcement of shut down the game like wtf? i decided to migrate to DMM where the original aigis war is and still in japanese, i've been in DMM longer since i play Kantai Collection. There i notice how damn nutaku actually rig aigis war so bad as if the game was localized by EA staff graduate or something. since the dead of english aigis war i refuse to step back to those cursed land.
it seems that nutaku only care for money they earn from milking the game they have and then kill it later even though it still alive. i swear they put more money toward advertising their web than development or life of the game they have

now about DMM is a bit conflicted. lot of games and stuff coming from this large web, they literally work like steam (holding online games, selling games, even have their own launcher but very crappy) and also as japan version of amazon (exccept just for digital stuff). the web is decent and good, BUT if anything i would pick the word 'racist' to describe DMM. they barely make any progress toward global market, in fact they even put region lock on their website to make any user outside japan to not be able to utilize their website. if you want to pass the lock despite not live in japan, you need to cookie hack your browser to trick the web thinking your IP is JP, or get yourself VPN on JP domain. now sure they have the setting to change the UI of the web into english but if you read the word it mostly are broken english like it was translated using google translate or translated by poor translator.
to put it short, DMM is fine website but ONLY if you live in japan. it seems like they barely care to appeal for wider audience outside japan.

now if people asking me to choose between Nutaku or DMM, never in my life again i would call Nutaku. but i wouldn't reccomend DMM unless a person have experience on catalog website like DMM and have at least low level knowledge of japanese. sure some people can go with just MTL but sometime MTL would make a confusion which i'm worried.

if you asking for other sites with F2P adult games, you might want to check Johren. it's a fresh fish on the sea, they have several games that got translated and run already. i'm still new to that web so i wouldn't say much.
 
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i use to play on nutaku, i was there when nutaku only have like 4 games on their website like aigis war and valkyrie. now they shut down both games literally over nothing. from what i see aigis war doing fine then out of nowhere they drop announcement of shut down the game like wtf? i decided to migrate to DMM where the original aigis war is and still in japanese, i've been in DMM longer since i play Kantai Collection. There i notice how damn nutaku actually rig aigis war so bad as if the game was localized by EA staff graduate or something. since the dead of english aigis war i refuse to step back to those cursed land.
it seems that nutaku only care for money they earn from milking the game they have and then kill it later even though it still alive. i swear they put more money toward advertising their web than development or life of the game they have

now about DMM is a bit conflicted. lot of games and stuff coming from this large web, they literally work like steam (holding online games, selling games, even have their own launcher but very crappy) and also as japan version of amazon (exccept just for digital stuff). the web is decent and good, BUT if anything i would pick the word 'racist' to describe DMM. they barely make any progress toward global market, in fact they even put region lock on their website to make any user outside japan to not be able to utilize their website. if you want to pass the lock despite not live in japan, you need to cookie hack your browser to trick the web thinking your IP is JP, or get yourself VPN on JP domain. now sure they have the setting to change the UI of the web into english but if you read the word it mostly are broken english like it was translated using google translate or translated by poor translator.
to put it short, DMM is fine website but ONLY if you live in japan. it seems like they barely care to appeal for wider audience outside japan.

now if people asking me to choose between Nutaku or DMM, never in my life again i would call Nutaku. but i wouldn't reccomend DMM unless a person have experience on catalog website like DMM and have at least low level knowledge of japanese. sure some people can go with just MTL but sometime MTL would make a confusion which i'm worried.

if you asking for other sites with F2P adult games, you might want to check Johren. it's a fresh fish on the sea, they have several games that got translated and run already. i'm still new to that web so i wouldn't say much.
I am just glad I am not the only one who see Nutaku as a milking machine! XD

Well, I wasn't going to be bothered by the racist setting in Japanese servers. You have to understand the tension it has with other countries after WW2, the aftermath and how some issues were/have been handled, Japanese own culture etc (also minor reminder on the censorship on the industries, e.g.: FF7RM - Tifa's breasts reduction). Once you comprehend that entanglement, probably you won't see it as racism that much.

I am more concerned on the quality and how DMM/Fanza operates, are they just the douchebag like Nutaku or are they really much better in every way? Personally, DMM/Fanza seems to offer better compensation and the designs of games aren't truly milking people dry, the purchasables are at reasonable prices and more or less optional than compulsory for progress. I just hope I am not completely wrong if I made that decision to make a purchase in the future (still hesitating). I know some developers design a false sense of security, once you made a purchase, the "rigging" kicks in.

Johren? Never heard of it, but I wouldn't mind hear more from your take. What do you think of Johren? Trustworthy enough to play there? What about the quality?
 

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tension of japan against all country after WW2 is no more man. after the war japan achieve a post-war economic miracle and stand as one of very successful country, they grow so fast than anyone ever, eventually lot of country respect japan growth. some people still hold against them but those are the old people (boomer), most young generation already rub it off and couldn't careless about past stuff including me, "it's not their time and generation, why even bother to make generation that innocent to hold responsible for generation that already dead?". although i agree that censorship is one thing that make japan refuse to go global on their game market, lot of nice looking game in japan never become english because they contain either adult in obscene outfit or underage character with less clothing. some company just censored it or just go with it, but most just ignore the option to make it global because the hassle.

DMM already bit of a douches inside but at least their service and operation actually decent compare to Nutaku. there's several game once on DMM that got shut down, but on their case the game just isn't popular enough which make it a failure so their reason is actually justified. compare to Nutaku who kill a fine running game for no reason, but then again like i said their localized game extremely rigged compare to the original japan version.
if you afraid of fraud after purchasing a game or digital content then pirate it first. lot of games or company often being a douches, making nice looking content outside but actually crappy inside like most EA games, sometimes demo for a game barely tell you if the full game actually good or not. at least someone like Steam allow you to refund your game if you realize that the game is crappy in your first 2 hour gameplay. but that case won't happen in H-game industry, lot of web for H-games doesn't allow refund and you wouldn't know if the game actually good or crap, your option in this kind of situation is pirate, allowing you to see if game actually decent or not. if you find it fitting your taste then don't forget to credit the developer by paying them, this is what piracy suppose to be.

like i said i'm still now to Johren, i came here because email i got regarding a game i play that got translated to english on DMM end up migrating somewhere else which is Johren. i never heard this sites before which mean they barely make advertising like Nutaku did. all i know they hold multiple online game that exist in DMM and Nutaku but several of them is translated to english like Kamihime or Taimanin Asagi Arena. anything about how they operate i don't know.
 
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I use DMM a lot. I think it depends what service of theirs you use.

I NEVER choose the "English" option. Instead I let google chrome do all the translating. Always choose the Japan options.
Even my own download games section only works if I leave it in Japanese.

I mostly only make purchases from the "Doujin" section, and the JAV porn video section.. Every now and again I get a real H game. Most of their games are discounted 20% compared to the price on DLsite for the same game, so unless DLsite has an english version I can buy, I prefer to buy games I want on DMM/Fanza.. The big downside is you can't search in English. You have to know the Japanese name of the game.


For JAV porn vids, I figured out a way to get my Playstation 4 to let me add the DMM channel. I had to register a second account using a Japanese address, which I got by getting an account with a reshipping service. Lots of work, but well worth it!!!!! Because now I can fire up my PS4 and watch my vids on my TV set.

Ironically, DMM actually has an English friendly porn video site called R18.com, but it doesn't have a channel on PS4, so it's a huge hassle to get the videos to work on my TV, since they are locked into a proprietary program for watching them . (I found a way, though, by getting a "Chrome Cast" for my TV, and then playing vids off my cellphone onto the TV)
 
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