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Re: Is there any interest in a 3D H-wrestling game?

Firstly, I'd like to say this game looks really good.

While I'm certain I'll play and enjoy the game no matter what, I would really like a male character, personally. I'd be prepared to wait longer for it too (either the whole game or you release an updated version with the male character later etc), but it's your game.

Looking forward to the demo.
 

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Re: Is there any interest in a 3D H-wrestling game?

This looks awesome. I was way into Rumble Roses back when it was still new, and I've been crushed ever since it became obvious Rumble Roses XXX would never be a thing :(

That being said, what you have here looks like a good spiritual successor. I think there are a lot of people who would like a male/futa character, though personally I prefer yuri wrestling.

If you decide you want to add in male/futa, I'd say figure out which would be easier: flesh out the game and its mechanics with only female wrestlers then add in male/futa, or add male/futa before a whole lot of the game is completed.

And to answer the thread title, if you haven't already come to this conclusion... yeah, there's definitely interest in this :p
 

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Re: Is there any interest in a 3D H-wrestling game?

Wrestling, huh? I'm not uninterested.

I've some thoughts to share, if you're of a mind. Not sure where to begin though.
(Note - I went back and spoilered this because it turned into a big old wall of text. I type too much, but maybe you'll find some of it useful).

Best I can say is probably to not overlook the *wrestling* side of it. The better you get the feel of the professional wrestling aspect, the tighter the game should feel as a product. That means a few things. Just going by the few shots I see on your blog, a few obvious bits stand out. The characters appear to be dressed identically, only differentiated by hairstyle and colour-scheme. Early days and all that sure. But one of the cornerstones of wrestling is *character*. That means being able to, as a wrestler, get your distinct personality and identity across in the ring, from how you move to what you look like, and it's got to be clear enough that the people in the cheap seats can get it, all the way at the back of the bingo-hall / arena / etc. Which is to say, I'd like to see characters who stand out as very different, with distinct ring gear and looks where possible. You've only got so much to work with, so they're going to have to get personality across with what details and design elements you can afford to vary without creating problems for yourself.


A follow on from that is the structure of a wrestling show. Namely, the Heel / Face dynamic. Those personalities should vary in terms of whether they are good guys or bad guys too. If there's room to give distinct moves to the characters, I'd look for ways to give the good guys flashier moves and the bad guys more dishonest ones. It helps give structure to what's going on in the ring, if nothing else. As for the actual wrestling manouvers? You've got a still of a pretty decent boston crab in there, but the punch looks way out. That's not a real effort to hit someone in the face, that's the stance from some kind of Karate kata. My advice on this point is that you should watch plenty of wrestling, get some good references for your animation. Look at how a few different wrestlers throw punches, and get a decent reference in particular for any hold or move you include. The Full Nelson submission on your more recent update also looks a little backwards. You've got it as a lifting move there, her feet off the ground. It's usually more about forcing the head *down* than the shoulders up, so to speak. The idea being that it's putting pressure on things like your ability to breath and blood flow and so on, so you either tap out from the pain or pass out from getting sleepy. Little things like that can make all the difference.


What else springs to mind? Oh, of course. The show itself. Which is to say, the central gimmick of the game. Your game revolves around a pornographic wrestling show. It's about wrestling matches that involve deliberate h-content, as part of the rules if I understand it correctly? Well, consider what those rules, in the fiction of your game, would imply. What story do those rules tell.


If it's a matter of the first to cum loses, what does that wrestling show look like? You have a wrestling match where the two wrestlers try to do that to each other, and eventually the audience gets a single climax that signifies the end of the match. What kind of competitor would be particularly suited to this combat? See, the person who cums *loses*. So it would make sense that your likely champion and the more fearsome opponents would be those competitors who are *more frigid*. Implacable women with control over their libido who can take what their foe is dishing out and not lose their composure. If you change the win condition,(Say, to a regular pinfall or submission for example) you could instead have a situation where cumming is likely and potentially even a significant disadvantage, but you don't have a match that ends the moment someone gets off and I would imagine you're leaving more conceptual room for sluttier wrestlers to be better at that kind of environment. Both are valid directions to take the game, but it's going to feel very different depending on which one you take.


Oh, and I do think that a championship or a trophy if it's a tournament setup is basically required, likewise you should have characters who are more of a threat and wrestlers who are there to get beaten convincingly and easily. It keeps the wrestling feel but also gives you potential for managing the difficulty curve and all that jazz.


I think it's worth keeping an eye on the themes for the non-wrestling side of the content as well. Is this a game about light, wrestling themed ryona? Is it more about humiliation and physical domination? Are the characters there because it pays well, or are they passionate for the sport? Either work, and might even vary from character to character. But this is a fantasy, so they might even be compelled to compete because they're prisoners / slaves trying to earn their freedom or any number of other things. Whatever your focus is, you should make sure the gameplay goes well with that.


I mean, if it's about the whole angle of two wrestlers competing for physical dominance, humiliating each other in the ring by using the sexy moves as part of the combat, it'd be worth checking out something like "Ultimate Surrender". Their gimmick is that it's unscripted girl on girl wrestling porn involving legitimate competition. The fight to strip each other, perform humiliating sexy moves on each other (having established control) and the winner is determined on points and then gets to do whatever they want with the loser. It's a pretty good structure and a very similar idea to the game you're putting together in some senses. I feel it works particularly well as a gimmick because they take the rules and competition seriously and because the rules are designed to get across the themes they're trying to get over.

Oh, and I think I might echo the guy talking about the UI and the various bars. Keep the UI uncluttered whenever you can in my opinion. If it doesn't really need a bar, don't give it a bar and if the bar doesn't have to be stared at, it's probably better off tidied up out of the way with the other bars and portrait in the corner. The only bars you should really be looking at anywhere they could get in the way of the characters would be ones that specifically required for the gameplay, like the dreaded quicktime prompt.

EDIT - Oh, and don't be afraid to rip off the general styles of existing wrestlers outfits and ring gear where possible. There's a whole industry of examples out there!
 

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Re: Is there any interest in a 3D H-wrestling game?

On the fence about this one. Males requires much more work (unless you are okay with a female model with a female skeleton but without boobs). Futas are not too difficult to implement. I love to hear your thoughts on this. :)
Futa-on-girl is the only acceptable futa
 

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Re: Is there any interest in a 3D H-wrestling game?

Futa-on-girl is the only acceptable futa
I'd also like some dominant trap on girl, but i guess it goes both ways with wrestling
 
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Re: Is there any interest in a 3D H-wrestling game?

Thanks for the input! I'll keep those in mind and I think some of your considerations will be addressed in game when those features come into light.

Also just want to add that I posted in blog on what you can expect from the demo + more information on the gameplay. The demo is almost ready, hang on tight. :)
 

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Re: Is there any interest in a 3D H-wrestling game?

This is simply amazing, meow!
I've been waiting for a game like this since forever (actually since rumble roses, lol) but yeah, h-wrestling is my biggest fetish and I'm very happy to know that a 3D game with this theme is coming out! meow!
Your game looks very cool and really can't wait to see what the full game will look like! meow meow!
Also please have one of the characters to be a catgirl, please please please please please, just some ears and maybe a cat tail and that's it >.< meow meow

Good luck with your game, you just gained a big fan!
 

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Re: Is there any interest in a 3D H-wrestling game?

All I'll say is: less sex, more wrestling.
 

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Re: Is there any interest in a 3D H-wrestling game?

There's been an empty hole in my heart ever since N- wrestle died.

Please add sexy "special attacks"..! Figure four clit lock, whatever. Heehee.
 

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Re: Is there any interest in a 3D H-wrestling game?

Gimmi futa and sex attacks and ill fucking pay you.

(Oh and just to keep to my reputation)
PROPPER futanari, none of that shemale crap! and NO balls!


TLDR: slap a cock on that female body and ill pay you.
HAHAHAHA!
 
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Re: 3D Action H-Wrestling game alpha release

Just to let everyone know that alpha v0.1 is released. Download link in blog.
 

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Re: 3D Action H-Wrestling game alpha release

.....shut-up and take my money.
 

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Re: 3D Action H-Wrestling game alpha release

Just to let everyone know that alpha v0.1 is released. Download link in blog.
Love it so far, it might be a good idea to have the camera zoom in automatically on grapples though
 
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Re: 3D Action H-Wrestling game alpha release

Love it so far, it might be a good idea to have the camera zoom in automatically on grapples though
Good idea, will be included in the next release.
 

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Re: Is there any interest in a 3D H-wrestling game?

Gimmi futa and sex attacks and ill fucking pay you.

(Oh and just to keep to my reputation)
PROPPER futanari, none of that shemale crap! and NO balls!


TLDR: slap a cock on that female body and ill pay you.
HAHAHAHA!
Well if there is gonna be futa or male opponents who can get into the action I will also definitely pay you.

Also would it be possible to add 1 vs 2-3 matches :D
 
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Re: Is there any interest in a 3D H-wrestling game?

Well if there is gonna be futa or male opponents who can get into the action I will also definitely pay you.
Its official. Futas are now on the TODO list.


Also would it be possible to add 1 vs 2-3 matches :D
Yes. I just tried and the engine can handle 20 characters at once with no problems.
 

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Re: 3D Action H-Wrestling/Battlefuck game alpha release

For whatever reason I seem to have a problem running the game. There's nothing but a white screen when I run the executable. Yes, I have all the drivers up to date etc, really at a loss what's causing this issue.
 

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Re: 3D Action H-Wrestling/Battlefuck game alpha release

For whatever reason I seem to have a problem running the game. There's nothing but a white screen when I run the executable. Yes, I have all the drivers up to date etc, really at a loss what's causing this issue.
I can say I'm having the same issue. White screen, can't do anything.
 

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Re: 3D Action H-Wrestling/Battlefuck game alpha release

i've had to play it on my guest account and it runs as it should.
 
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