i just want the H to be linked to gameplay, and not to be killed by lazers or spikes instead of sexy monsters
By that reasoning the game should've been a BattleFuck game I mean why pass up the opportunity right. Not every element of the game needs to be related to the adult content.
if it isnt properly related it might as well not be hentai at all
I misread that post at the time and thought he was saying Eroico had chain grabs. 'Cause I'm dumb sometimes -__-
i just meant how in eroico, there was no downside to just sitting there getting raped, which kind of made it pointless from a design perspective, the vore monster in kurovadis always made me struggle for my life, though i pretty much knew it wasnt possible to escape in time (i always try) and that was brilliant...
Sounds like the exact opposite of what oneone1 games does.
Here's my two cents.
Well, look at it this way. When I think "design", that means everything. A Leaf drifting in the breeze may not have any mechanical purpose, but it has a bearing on the experience. Little extra things here and there, like character idle animations, or grass that can be cut down, help to make the world feel more tangible and expressive, and are far from pointless.
Well, it depends. Status effects that mess with a game's pacing can conflict with it's gameplay, but make it more immersive or sexy for the player, so it's a matter of deciding what's more important, finding a balance, or just giving the player the choice to choose themselves.
The way I see it is, you can have a fighting game and a visual novel as separate games. But there's nothing wrong with a full fighting game that also has minor elements of a visual novel, like some dialogue and choices. Adult content, like dialogue, is simply an element of design that can be included at the discretion of the game's designer. I don't think developer's should limit themselves by thinking of a hentai game any differently than a normal game.
I wasn't, i liken porn with no consequence in a Hgame to castlevania 4 with all the sub weapons that you don't need cause of the 8 way strong as shit whip
Well, to azure's point, he was referencing those spikes and how they could be replaced by something of H nature, hence why Voss was talking about grabs, referencing traps that grab.
As I recall, the only reason Kurovadis and Eroico both lack a story, or any dialogue at all, is because of the fact he has to find a way to translate it into english.
True, you can add this content and mix it to make your game better, a fighting game doesn't need to be just a fighting game, a good mix between genres is always good.
For me is not about treating them differently, is about working the strong points from both of them, like it or not they're different genres and different markets. You have to think of them differently because you don't sell the same product, each genre works a completely different thing and you can't ask the player to expect the same thing from a normal game and an adult game right? Expectatives will always be different. But... you can create a better experience for the player by mixing good points from both genres.
Well I mean, you can even give off a simple story just with actions shown on screen, signs, dialogue with objects and emotes and such instead of words, etc. I think a lot of the oldest platformers did that. You just gotta get creative.
I'm not being sarcastic when I say I don't know what point you're trying to make, so bear with me here lol. To recap.. Azure said he wanted to die to H content, not spikes. In response to Azure, Voss said that he dislikes traps that lead to chain grabs. I fucked up and thought he said that Eroico had chain grabs. Then I disagreed with Azure's general stance that if games didn't revolve around H content they should't be H games.
There's a big difference between looking at an animation, and playing a game leading up to that animation, because then it's happening to you. So no, it's not the same.
So do fighting games and visual novels, so what's your point? And yes, I did add it to spice it up. I didn't start making H games to enter a market, I started because I played two free H games and thought "this was fun".The games were good, and the H content added a nice twist to what were otherwise normal platformers. A "hentai platformer" is inherently a mixing of mainstream and none mainstream genres, so I don't see why you would say one part is inherently more important than the other, or that the adult content needs to be as fleshed out as the rest of the gameplay.