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balze galgen? What's the item number on the item list?
No. 86 Exclusive crafting only 2-handed sword with 3 slots max. Unfortunately, I haven't found the recipe for any other crafting only gears. (Though there should be one for each of the weapon types)

fox tooth/night stalker from 2 to 3
Those max at 2 slots. Item compendium lists the max slots, and crafting cannot go above that limit. (Since to slot expand, you need something that mount of slots in the first place)

I now know that placing two different level 3 elemental essences in a single weapon is a waste of time. If I place lightning 3 and fire 3 together in a limbfire for example, the essence placed later takes priority and overwrites the effects of the first.
Elemental effects are unique. Which makes silver essence excellent for filling up the last spot. (Plasma & Durability, both vital additions and in one easy to get package. From initiate anyways)
 
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No. 86 Exclusive crafting only 2-handed sword with 3 slots max. Unfortunately, I haven't found the recipe for any other crafting only gears. (Though there should be one for each of the weapon types)


Those max at 2 slots. Item compendium lists the max slots, and crafting cannot go above that limit. (Since to slot expand, you need something that mount of slots in the first place)


Elemental effects are unique. Which makes silver essence excellent for filling up the last spot. (Plasma & Durability, both vital additions and in one easy to get package. From initiate anyways)
#85 is the bonesaw and I had one with 3-sockets clean sitting in my stash until recently, #86 must be some kind of combination using the bonesaw as a base if you say the max number of sockets for the resulting craft is 3-sockets.

Could you spare a screenshot of the sword's properties and the recipe? If I get lucky, I might try giving that recipe a go to see if I get anything useful.

#75 below the falcon stake is likely to be a craft using the stake as a base, but that's my main weapon and I've yet to see anything fuse with it from the loot I've collected all this while.
 

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http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=22332&page=40
Its one of my attached screenshot on page 40. The raw stats looks amazing, especially in terms of defense. In actual usage however, due to lack of Holy/plasma, you have to use holy water with it.

In terms of advanced crafting:
It has nothing to do with what's the base item, it's the essence that matters. Different from combination with an essence, to get an advanced fuse, you need:
1) Right type of weapon
2) Right # of essences at a minimal level (usually Lv 6)
3) For Balze Galgen specifically, you need a 2-handed sword, along with another weapon, both totaling Lv6 worth of Strength essences.

Note: Red essences have double the effect. A Lv3 Red Strength Essence is enough to trigger the fuse for Balze Galgen.
Note 2: It doesn't matter if the essence is on the primary or secondary, though not sure the exact logic on that.

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Geeze you people, made me do all the hard work of figuring out how the crafting system works > >
 
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http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showthread.php?t=22332&page=40
Its one of my attached screenshot on page 40. The raw stats looks amazing, especially in terms of defense. In actual usage however, due to lack of Holy/plasma, you have to use holy water with it.

In terms of advanced crafting:
It has nothing to do with what's the base item, it's the essence that matters. Different from combination with an essence, to get an advanced fuse, you need:
1) Right type of weapon
2) Right # of essences at a minimal level (usually Lv 6)
3) For Balze Galgen specifically, you need a 2-handed sword, along with another weapon, both totaling Lv6 worth of Strength essences.

Note: Red essences have double the effect. A Lv3 Red Strength Essence is enough to trigger the fuse for Balze Galgen.
Note 2: It doesn't matter if the essence is on the primary or secondary, though not sure the exact logic on that.

Rants:
Geeze you people, made me do all the hard work of figuring out how the crafting system works > >
Shortly after I made my request, I managed to fuse the Katzberger (that's probably what the katakana really mean) on my own. As you said, red essences (preferably of the stat boost type) will do the job. I think I used a two-socket bonesaw with a level2 essence combined with a knuckleduster with the corresponding level2 essence (in so doing I forgot to unload the knuckleduster which was holding my spare plasma and mithril cartridges, must remember to unload before doing this kind of thing!)

Since one of the fusion weapons is just after the falcon stake in the item list, I'm guessing it's a red-essence falcon stake with a similar pattern to that of the bonesaw.

I'm not very impressed with the Katzberger's stats, it seems to me to be a buffed-up longsword with the rage special ability (good for players who like to use brute force, rage overwrites confuse and sleep which for me are more versatile in application since rage is specifically targeted against spellcasters).
 

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I am more interested in the other crafted weapons as well, but so far no luck what so ever. (That's saying a lot consider my gigantic stash of essences)
Keep me updated if you manage to find a mix for something else.

In terms of cartridges, I have:
> 320 Scatter Ammo
> 320 Mithirl Ammo
And using 160 Scatter Ammo in vanguard, 160 Mithirl Ammo in automator.
i.e. I have more than I ever need in terms of ammo. (Mostly due to the fact, I usually fire what I picked up. Normal ammo is as good as anything else due to Holy/Plasma Automator, other than losing 5~10 damage, which is a moot point before floor 20)

On the other hand, it still pains me to sell an item temporarily holding my ammo, which happens more often than I like. Like you said, must remember to unload ammo first!

Update: Just picked up a quake 3 red essence falcon's stake. If only its orange :X
Update 2: I love you cat. 2 red/3 free gothic brassier -> Stray cat. Wonder, if I can slot expand stray cat ...
Update 3: Yup, that did it, *is moved* +25 Stray Cat from above and 2 slot brassier. Took 2 animal essence (As I expected) and costs so much to fuse it that I don't have enough to fuse Cardinal Robe (Just got 3 slot sister robe)

Only non-full slot clothing I got left is Mermaid's Shell. Elem wise, earth 3. And I need to figure out the recipe for Jade Blade (Wonder if its poison or anti-spirit?)
 
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3) For Balze Galgen specifically, you need a 2-handed sword, along with another weapon, both totaling Lv6 worth of Strength essences.
Is the second weapon a general thing or only for specific weapons? Because the other day I noticed I could give up lv2 essences for some weapon transformations (between rapier and falcon stake, in the first instance I saw), or is that another kind of crafting, since it seems you are allowed to "freely" (just .ect cost) switch between them afterwards.
 

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Crafting wise:
Basic Crafting
Weapon + Essence. Revertible. Usually ending up with the basic weapons of the said weapon type. Basic weapon list:
2-hand melee: longsword
Dual-wield melee: short swords
Fencing sword: rapier
2-hand gun: longhorn
Dual wield gun: limb-fire

Advanced Crafting
Weapon + Weapon. First weapon reversible, but loses the 2nd weapon. Loses all orange essence attached. Much more complicated in many different ways. But the only way to get crafting only weapons like balze galgen.
Note: The type of weapon and essences decide the resulting weapon. You need a recipe of the form: Type of weapon + Required Level of Essence

Slot Expansion
Having 2 of the same weapons, given that your second weapon has more slots. The total # of red essences of the 2 weapons are equal or greater than your second weapon's slots. You can sacrifice your second weapon to slot expand the first one.
Note: There's a costy and more complex version of slot expansion. Its what I did for my vanguard and stray cat. It is the only way to slot-expand clean gears to their maximum slots. (Doesn't apply to weapons with 4 max slots like limb-fire)

Fusion Crafting
Crossfire P8, Burial Blade

Rants: Apparently, with enough experience stacked from repairs and getting lucky, you can use a scroll to upgrade a +22 to a +23. (That just saved me 4.4k etc)
 
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Hey can anyone explain me some things ...
1stly) i see the apearance tap in the menu but i cant change anything there, is there a way to unlock stuff there??
2ond) When roland gets pregnat can i somehow see the change in her belly?
3rd)How do i restore my vitality, i figure pots can restore 2% of it but i cant always spend pots for the vitality
BTW awesome game truly the Best i ever played for quiet some time now.
 

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1stly) i see the apearance tap in the menu but i cant change anything there, is there a way to unlock stuff there??
Need to reach a mirror in the chapel. (Which is one of many safe area and center in terms of location of the game)

2ond) When roland gets pregnat can i somehow see the change in her belly?
Requires enabling the pregnancy option in options. (There's 2 options in the bottom selected by a and s, just enable both)

3rd)How do i restore my vitality, i figure pots can restore 2% of it but i cant always spend pots for the vitality
Food. (Fruits, bread, cookies, cakes)
 

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4 hours and a visit to level 66 snow forest big monster house later, I've finally farmed the last lightning3 essence I needed. Now I'm short on darkness2 and ice3 (time to take on the headless count with stronger defence, magic resistance and slightly improved weapons).

Over 100 hours clocked on this game and counting...
 

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Been there done that. *Goes to poke belle for Earth 3*

Graveyard's headless count is easy if you use scrolls/wand of sleep. (Confuse and judgement doesn't work on it nearly as well as sleep)
Or melee around 300 damage with angelic halo.

You need something to keep the count in place or have enough aoe damage. (Like my angelic halo and scatter vanguard) First time I got kited by a boss, it didn't NOT feel good ._. (small room, boss jumping all over the trees, cannot hit)
 
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Been there done that. *Goes to poke belle for Earth 3*

Graveyard's headless count is easy if you use scrolls/wand of sleep. (Confuse and judgement doesn't work on it nearly as well as sleep)
Or melee around 300 damage with angelic halo.

You need something to keep the count in place or have enough aoe damage. (Like my angelic halo and scatter vanguard) First time I got kited by a boss, it didn't NOT feel good ._. (small room, boss jumping all over the trees, cannot hit)
The strategy is too dependent on item drops to be reliable, once you run out of sleep/divine judgment then it's more or less him taking you to the cleaners unless your power gauge fills up enough to deploy the halo and then kill him before he runs away.

My guns are decent enough, now that I know exactly which enemies to use ammo on I can probably take on the count with my 4-socket limbfire (holy+magic+fire3 damage) equipped with plasma and silver bullets.

I can't remember if the Iron Jack turns up at the graveyard, if it does then it's two birds with one stone since darkness2 has to be seized from the clattering tin can.

Still no luck with Belle for earth3? At least you'll get plenty of silence and confuse essences.
 

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unless your power gauge fills up enough to deploy the halo and then kill him before he runs away.
Angelic Halo is a 4T AOE melee cooldown skill, not the 50% power gauge stigmata. My stigmata does 420 Slashing/Fire/Holy/Plasma damage, so that's a 1hko on the Count.

In terms of sleep, just keep a sleep wand. Its so good against count/belle that its not funny. After sleep, try T1: Enchant weapon*, T2: redemption, T3: normal swipe, T4: angelic halo. Normally the Count's down after that with enough damage.

I recall the tin should be in there. Black Knight definitely is. The reason I say to melee is because the boss's resistant to slashing, thrusting, and bullets. Used to have such an easy time with it with a granite blade. Now I am just glad everything's weak to holy/plasma.

Update: succubi, sleep Lv1 essence exists oO (18% like confuse)
 
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Angelic Halo is a 4T AOE melee cooldown skill, not the 50% power gauge stigmata. My stigmata does 420 Fire/Holy/Plasma damage, so that's a 1hko on the Count.

In terms of sleep, just keep a sleep wand. Its so good against count/belle that its not funny. After sleep, try T1: Holy water, T2: redemption, T3: normal swipe, T4: angelic halo. Normally the Count's down after that with enough damage.

I recall the tin should be in there. Black Knight definitely is. The reason I say to melee is because the boss's resistant to slashing, thrusting, and bullets.
Considering your atk score should be in the 70s by now, it's no wonder you don't have a problem killing the count with so few turns.

My atk score is still on 37 so 4 attacks isn't going to cut it. If I can keep him in a straight line, my guns should do the job regardless of the bullet resistance. I'll only find out when I've started the runs in earnest.

Holy water damage is rubbish, so I'll use a vial to enchant my weapons for holy impact. It might help a bit, maybe not.

Unlike your character, I don't need help from wands or scrolls against Belle. Two of my weapons have sleep1 while another has confuse1, more than enough to handle Belle especially when I've got a choice of stun/paralyze plus blind at my disposal for practically all of my melee weapons.
 

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Holy water damage is rubbish, so I'll use a vial to enchant my weapons for holy impact. It might help a bit, maybe not.
Ah sorry, I meant enchant weapon, the enchant halfs durability loss and is great for non-divinity weapons. I will go edit.

If you mean the raw damage shown in status:
208 with a burial. 89 for automator (off-hand at 62).
That and the trademark endure of 1. OTOH, my def and resist aren't as bad as before due to stray cat, so as long as belle doesn't have too many free turns on me I am ok. (If she does, and there's other mobs, I suffer accidental rape -> Instant death)

Belle wise, it depends too much on spawn, if I am getting belle in a monster room, I am using a scroll regardless of situation. Main thing is, getting redemption to hit is a pain, and due to farming redemption is a must. Otherwise I won't have to get into range 3 and can gun belle down in 2 turns at range.

Anyone ever seen a 2 slotted jade blades?

Update: I love the slitted underwear, this stats bonus is so awesome for a underwear.
 

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Oh, hey, question.
Could I get a translation of the option menu at the starting screen at all?
 

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Oh, hey, question.
Could I get a translation of the option menu at the starting screen at all?
On it!

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< システム設定 >
(System settings)

[画面解像度] #x#
(Game resolution, seems to require restart if on default at first)

[マスター音量] 0-100
[BGM音量] 0-100
[SE音量] 0-100
(Sound volumes)


[ボタン名の表記] (Button names)
キーボード基準で表示する (Keyboard style)
ツクール基準で表示する (RPGmaker/gamepad style)
[初心者ガイド](Gameplay tips)
すべての初心者ガイドを表示する (Show all tips)
現在のステートなどに関するヒントだけ表示する (Show tips for current state)
初心者ガイドを表示しない (Don't show tips)
[オートセーブ] ----
(Autosave (only changeable ingame or something))

[ショートカット] (Shortcuts)
決定キーを押した時点で、ショートカットを実行する (Use with Confirmation button)
十字キーを離した時点で、ショートカットを実行する (Use when you release direction key?)
[決定モード] (Decision mode?)
Shift/Aキーを押している場合のみ詳細コマンドを表示 (Show command menu when holding Shift/A)
スキル・アイテムを選ぶたびに詳細コマンドを表示 (Show command menu when skill/item is selected)
スキルはShift/Aを押している場合 それ以外は選ぶたびに表示 (Hold Shift/A to show command menu for skills only)
消耗品は選ぶたびに それ以外はShift/Aを押している場合表示 (Hold Shift/A to show command menu for everything but consumables?)
(無効な設定) (Unset/Invalid setting?)
[エラー防止] (Error prevention (Probably just skips showing error messages))
A/X>Permission Denied防止 (Prevent permission errors?)
[移動スイッチタイプの設定] (Movement type switch settings)
A/X>位置固定を切り替え式に (Turn only)
S/Y>斜め移動を切り替え式に (Diagonal only)
(I thought these were supposed to make the turn/diagonal move hold keys toggles instead, but I never noticed a difference)
[メニューに関する設定] (Menu settings)
A/XX/BD/Zメニューの内容を同じにする (Make both shortcut menus the same)
S/Y>斜め上をQ/LW/Rボタンとして扱う (Treat diagonals as the Q/L and W/R keys)
[シフト技の設定] (Shift technique settings (Probably the hold key moves like backflip))
A/X>キャラ固有技を優先 (Prioritize character inherent techniques? (Backflip as opposed to stinger?))
S/Y>同じ技は重複しない (Don't allow the same technique twice)
< グラフィック設定 
(Graphics settings)

[フラッシュの強さ] 0-100
(Screen flash strength?)

[手書き風フォント] (Calligraphic font?)
A/X>ふきだし (Speech bubbles?)
S/Y>戦闘ログ (Combat log)
[立ち絵パートナーの設定] (Partner character portrait settings?)
表示する (Show)
小さく表示する (Show small)
表示しない (Don't show)
[マップ描画] (Map display)
A/X>マップの描画を簡略化 (Simplify drawing)
S/Y>アニメフレームを間引く (Decrease animations?)
D/Z>ダメージシェイクなし (Remove damage shake)
[ミニマップ設定] (Minimap settings)
A/X>大小切り替え (Toggle large (overlay) and small (corner))
S/Y>大も塗り潰し (Toggles background)
D/Z>罫線 (Draw grid)
[影の省略] (Disable shadows)
A/X>地上のキャラクター (Characters on the ground)
S/Y>飛行するキャラクター (Flying characters)
D/Z>アイテム (Items)
[立ち絵の演出設定] (Character portrait)
A/X>転倒画像(固定) (Fallen (Not changeable))
S/Y>息遣い (Breathing)
D/Z>乳揺れ (Wibbly woobli- Ahem, I mean breast shake)
[高速モード] (High speed mode)
A/X>fps設定(再起動) (FPS setting (restart required))
S/Y>瞬間フェード(再起動) (Instant fades? (restart))
D/Z>ターン中描画省略 (Skip mid-turn drawing?)
Z/C>ウィンドウ瞬間開閉 (Instant window open/close?)
[フレームレートの設定] 10-60fps
(Framerate setting)

< R18設定 >
(Adult content settings)

[挿入者の透過率] 0-255
(Penetrating character's transparency/alpha)

[特定な性的表現] (Fetish toggles)
A/X>妊娠 (Pregnancy)
S/Y>ふたなり (Futanari)
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Phew, there we go, all coloured up for clarity too.
If you want the description texts I recommend you look up my earlier post with the regex substitution file (http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=508790&postcount=435).
 
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Ah sorry, I meant enchant weapon, the enchant halfs durability loss and is great for non-divinity weapons. I will go edit.

If you mean the raw damage shown in status:
208 with a burial. 89 for automator (off-hand at 62).
That and the trademark endure of 1. OTOH, my def and resist aren't as bad as before due to stray cat, so as long as belle doesn't have too many free turns on me I am ok. (If she does, and there's other mobs, I suffer accidental rape -> Instant death)

Belle wise, it depends too much on spawn, if I am getting belle in a monster room, I am using a scroll regardless of situation. Main thing is, getting redemption to hit is a pain, and due to farming redemption is a must. Otherwise I won't have to get into range 3 and can gun belle down in 2 turns at range.

Anyone ever seen a 2 slotted jade blades?

Update: I love the slitted underwear, this stats bonus is so awesome for a underwear.
I don't have the burial blade so I can't comment. My gun damage is 69 on the main hand with a +11 limbfire so that's at least two/three more turns of damage required to kill stuff, hence my trouble with the count.

I'd have to say the same for getting the count in the big monster room. Never had that and wouldn't look forward to such an event.

Here's my jade blade, they definitely exist and I got mine before I took a break to play Way". 3-socket athame knife is slightly more useful for me since I can add blind and it has holy impact damage when I'm under a buff. I use this weapon for plant summoners and anything weak to lightning damage (a lot of monsters surprisingly enough).

Oh, hey, question.
Could I get a translation of the option menu at the starting screen at all?
Posted this after Doombell gave the very detailed explanation above so it's a moot point.
 

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Here's my jade blade, they definitely exist and I got mine before I took a break to play Way".
I used water with mine, and it works great at early floors, (Thunder 3's on automator) so was looking forward to a full slot. It never dropped ._.

@Doombell
Thanks for explaining the map options. Now I know why back in the early game was slow when I had draw background, draw grid and large overlay on.

Clarification on below
<S/Y>瞬間フェード(再起動) (When going to a new floor/loading, immediately fade to black. As opposed to keeping the previous display while waiting)
<D/Z>ターン中描画省略 (Completely skip mid-battle animation for the whole turn. Can get hectic if you don't what you are doing, and die very randomly. Not suggested outside of farming in late game)

Update: Belle's trolling me. Last time it was a red-essence earth 3 falcon stake, now its a red-essence earth 3 gothic brassier.
 
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It'll drop eventually, I only needed one earth3 essence and I got it around 40-50 kills. In between I got enough confuse and sleep essences to equip the weapons I wanted to enhance.

I've just had a thought regarding some of the advanced equipment which is only available from crafting. It's possible one of the essential essences is really the sister's essence required for the cardinal's robe and the animal essence requiring for stray cat. I'm not restarting my game until I get ice3 at the very last so someone else can probably verify my supposition.

The missing weapons are below the jade blade and the falcon stake, so I'd assume these two weapons are in some form or another required for the forging of something unique.
 
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