Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

[Ashurmen]

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You are welcome !
Note that some event are more friendly than other and i think you have time before another "dragon invasion"like event come out.

And event in aigis are far more friendrly than event in Kantai collection (the only RNG in aigis is the drop and gacha)

 

[Braemir]

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Who should I seek to CC first. Black Assassin or Black Valk? I managed to snag one Black Fairy from the fairy daily the other day.

 

[Ashurmen]

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Mmmm black valk i think

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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Who should I seek to CC first. Black Assassin or Black Valk? I managed to snag one Black Fairy from the fairy daily the other day.

I think it depends on your current team. They both do different things. Black Assassin looks nice with that quick Assassination 3 skill to possibly one shot enemies and has a lowish cost. Black Valk doesn't have the most useful skill but she'd be amazing for tanking bosses. She can also keep herself alive quite a while without a healer which is cool.

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Black Valk:

540 + 144 = 684 attack
390 + 72 = 462 defense
1890 hp

1.08 attack speed
633.34 dps

Trait: Killing mobs gives 1 sortie cost recovery
Skill: Major self healing skill that can lower the workload of your healers and keep other units alive (rarely, since it's an active). Because you have to manually use this, it can be distracting or missed.

16-20 cost (probably)

Black Rogue:

445 attack
260 + 48 = 308 defense
1441 + 288 hp = 1729 hp

.88 attack speed
505.68 dps

Trait: Dodging ability that mitigates damage and makes up for lower defense/hp. Dodging an attack altogether also lessens the work load of your healers, since this is a passive, I'd put it a bit above Valk's skill for that.
Skill: Assassination, raises attack and has a chance to one shot enemies

11-14 cost

So the assassin kind of makes up for a lot of the difference in stats with her trait and skill, I might pick her first because of her lower cost. That's just me though because now I already have a good Valk and Bandit, but my lower cost units aren't super strong. I don't find myself using my Valk's heal too often, and when I do, it usually doesn't save her long. That's just a silver with level 1 recovery though. Valk's passive also isn't too impressive if the Valk's cost is already high. By the time you get her on the field, you probably won't have many weak enemies to feed her or your sortie points(?) will already be okay from soldiers.

I imagine having an assassination skill available 2 seconds after placing a unit is OP as fuck as well.

So that's like (in my opinion):

Overall stats: Valk +1
Traits: Rogue +1
Skills: Rogue +1
Cost: Rogue +1

Lol. Oh and I just got a 2nd Mischa so I managed to 2/5 her skill and lower her cost, woot woot.

 

[Ashurmen]

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Note: the assassination skill one shot don't work on boss mob, like dragon king, dragon mage, lich, baphomet, giant slime and more.

Note again: but well i have CC'd the rogue first because she is hawt

 

[Petite Soeur]

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I thought this was cute, so I translated it to English.

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I still don't know who did the yonkoma. Though, it says 177, which makes me wonder if there's more by the same person.

In other news, I got the Valerie reward from Dragonkin King 2, so now I have my first 50CC warlock that I'm currently training up before going after Julian.

Sadly him needing to use a CC'd mage and such means I'm pretty screwed on that 20/2 map. I don't think I could level up a bandit or the rest of my team to perform that well before this ends either (My valk could probably replace one).

I did it without a CC'd mage. The most important units for Dark World, Underground Decisive Battle, and Great Elder are 3 high level healers. So if you can outheal the damage output from the dragonkin mages/king, then it doesn't matter what you throw in their faces (so long as the rest of the team can handle the small fry without distracting your healers from their role). I personally think Great Elder is the easiest, since the elder dragonkin won't trigger until you kill the dragonkin mage. The hardest map for you is going to be Dragon's Nest, since it has a tricky start, and a brutal ending (it's also unfortunate that this is the one you need to complete before you get the cost down rewards for Echidna).

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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I still don't know who did the yonkoma. Though, it says 177, which makes me wonder if there's more by the same person.

No that's the year for Aegis war. But thank you for digging it out, it was awesome.
And the prince is such a cute pervert, ahahahaha. Oh, and I spotted soma-chan, かわいいな～

Who should I seek to CC first. Black Assassin or Black Valk? I managed to snag one Black Fairy from the fairy daily the other day

Neither, 20k exp without 8x is hell in a cookie jar. Get something else 50cced first and focus on bringing your black unit to lv40 instead. (Then you will see what I mean by hell in a cookie jar, the cookie is at the bottom of the jar where you cannot get to it)

To give you a reference, starting from lv30, I have fed my black valkyrie the following all at 3.375x:
1 silver female, 1 silver male, 1 gold female, 1 gold male, 1 silver male, 8x bronze lv10 dragon soldier. 1 silver male.
Then I went screw it, sacrificed another black fairy and did 4.5x: 1 gold male

Lesson learned, for black alone, use bronze to bring to lv40~lv45, and then start sacrificing silver and gold units.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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Because if you've ever played Tentacles Tactics with me, you know how much I enjoy testing random crap. It's probably already known but here ya go...

Rogue's dodge chance:

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Times are seconds/minutes in the recording I took. I used them both on Gate of the Rural at the same time.

Rogue A (Assassin Cecily level 25):

Hit:
21.6, 24.2, 34.3, 47.2, 54.5, 1:08.6, 1:19.7, 1:22.2, 1:51.9, 1:54.3, 1:59, 2:00, 2:02.4, 2:04.7, 2:07.1, 2:14.5, 2:25.8, 2:28.7, 2:30.8, 2:38.6 (2nd arrow), 2:41.1, 2:43.7, 2:46.5

Dodged:
19.3, 36.8, 49.8, 52.3, 1:06.4, 1:17.5, 1:35.4, 1:37.9, 139.9, 1:56.5, 2:12.1, 2:16.9, 2:23.7, 2:36.2, 2:38.6 (1st arrow), 2:41.4

Total Hits: 23
Total Dodges: 16

Rogue B (Assassin Cecily level 1):

Hit:
25.9, 27.5, 1:13.9, 1:16, 1:23.5, 1:59.5, 2:05.3

Dodged:
54, 55.7, 1:11.8, 1:21.7, 1:25, 1:26.7, 1:41, 1:43, 1:57.7, 2:03.6

Total Hits: 7
Total Dodges: 10

26/56 dodges = 46.4/100 (Probably 50%)

The dodges were a lot higher at the start of the first recording I attempted, but I didn't realize that using her skill would block the "being hit" sprite so it was ruined halfway through the recording x.X

Also got to notice that an assassin can still be hit during their "invisibility" phase of dodging by another attacker, though this can really only happen with ranged attackers.

Just another +1 for Black Assassin...50% dodge is pretty amazing, imagine it on a black. Time to go level my silver rogue more...

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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It's probably already known but here ya go

表記されていないが、クラスチェンジでアサシンになると回避率が上がるようだ。
Once class-changed to assassin, the dodge rate increases. *whistles innocently*

Great Elder is the easiest+1, and best drop as well.
Uploaded a

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for Great Elder.

Important Notes:

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Deployment: The last row is in case I messed up and need to recover or speed up the battle. In reality, they aren't needed and as you can see in the video, they REALLY aren't needed.

Prince needs to be > Lv66 or else you cannot use a weak party like mine.

+5 deployment point bonus isn't needed. You aren't so desperate for deployment cost on this map due to the valkyrie. (The soldier can be safely be replaced by reinforcement 1 silver soldier)

Affection wise:
Silver Soldier: 15%
Silver Priest (31CC->37): 33%
Gold Archer: 25% (Actual damage dealt = min damage, hence doesn't matter)

Note 1: I have +5 deployment, x1.5 heal, and magic damage reduction. Without magic damage reduction, you need a pair of 300+ healing (and 1 must be cc) instead of a random lv30 0% affection healer.

Note 2: The first enemy that escaped at 1:12 is because I didn't swap fast enough/the lv21 gold soldier was too weak.

Note 3: 3:37, I got tired of that bandit killing the dragon mage. So I let Melphis bazooka that dragon mage to dust and then retreated.

Note 4: Things got pretty rough when the dragon elder arrived. Here is why you need 300+ heal with the heal boost if you don't units properly trained. Ideally, it's your bandit (princess) that takes on the dragon elder, needless to say for a 0% affection lv30 platinum bandit, that's not really possible.

Note 5: 5:04, the archer is to speed up the killing.

Post-deployment: Took out the last row and added some units that could make the battle go smoother. An extra healer for the dragon elder, another fire mage (instead of melphis bazooka) to make the battle quicker against the dragon mage, an extra soldier for early game to make handling the rush easier.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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表記されていないが、クラスチェンジでアサシンになると回避率が上がるようだ。
Once class-changed to assassin, the dodge rate increases. *whistles innocently*

Great Elder is the easiest+1, and best drop as well.
Uploaded a

You must be registered to see the links

for Great Elder.

Important Notes:

Spoiler

Deployment: The last row is in case I messed up and need to recover or speed up the battle. In reality, they aren't needed and as you can see in the video, they REALLY aren't needed.

Prince needs to be > Lv66 or else you cannot use a weak party like mine.

+5 deployment point bonus isn't needed. You aren't so desperate for deployment cost on this map due to the valkyrie. (The soldier can be safely be replaced by reinforcement 1 silver soldier)

Affection wise:
Silver Soldier: 15%
Silver Priest (31CC->37): 33%
Gold Archer: 25% (Actual damage dealt = min damage, hence doesn't matter)

Note 1: I have +5 deployment, x1.5 heal, and magic damage reduction. Without magic damage reduction, you need a pair of 300+ healing (and 1 must be cc) instead of a random lv30 0% affection healer.

Note 2: The first enemy that escaped at 1:12 is because I didn't swap fast enough/the lv21 gold soldier was too weak.

Note 3: 3:37, I got tired of that bandit killing the dragon mage. So I let Melphis bazooka that dragon mage to dust and then retreated.

Note 4: Things got pretty rough when the dragon elder arrived. Here is why you need 300+ heal with the heal boost if you don't units properly trained. Ideally, it's your bandit (princess) that takes on the dragon elder, needless to say for a 0% affection lv30 platinum bandit, that's not really possible.

Note 5: 5:04, the archer is to speed up the killing.

Post-deployment: Took out the last row and added some units that could make the battle go smoother. An extra healer for the dragon elder, another fire mage (instead of melphis bazooka) to make the battle quicker against the dragon mage, an extra soldier for early game to make handling the rush easier.

Nice video, that dragon mage is scary.

I still can't beat 20/2. Once those two dragon mages spawn, they just eat my whole team. I'd need to CC one of my healers. I'm still trying to decide if I should just 30/40 cc Fluoride since I already 50cc'd Alisa and have Iris around. I wish I had time to 50cc Iris/Fluoride but I don't. I really wanted to avoid 30/40 cc if I could, but I think that's the only way for me to clear 20/2 and up before this ends.

You guys think it's worth it for the cost reduction on Echidna? I'd need to beat a level or more after 20/2 to get it as well. Might as well start stuffing Fluoride with black units since she's only level 20, with low affection as well. I swear I didn't mean to do that. I wish we knew what Echidna was, I'm sure she's a high cost though.

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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Fluoride can be fed to Alisa for all I care, really dislike her for some reason.

Hence, yes, 30 CC her, level her to 21 afterwards, and if Echidna turns out to be a healer then feed her to Alisa for skill level increase and lots of exp (150 + 20 * 20 = 650 exp * 8 = 5.2k exp)
You do need to 30CC a healer, just don't cost reduce the healer after you 30CC her. (I suggest fluoride, since I like Alisa much better, but story mission drop is for Fluoride hence she's easier to cost reduce)

Update:Thanks to FruitSmoothie, fixed Alisa's name

You guys think it's worth it for the cost reduction on Echidna? I'd need to beat a level or more after 20/2 to get it as well. Might as well start stuffing Fluoride with black units since she's only level 20, with low affection as well. I swear I didn't mean to do that. I wish we knew what Echidna was, I'm sure she's a high cost though.

The levels after 20/2 is easier.
Please note, in order to have a chance at cost reduction, you need to have another copy of the unit. Hence, for an event unit there's absolutely no way to cost reduce it outside of participating in the event. (Used to be the case, now we have time fairy to cost reduce) However, 24 stars is kinda difficult without a proper party/goddess blessing.

Assuming Echidna is a healer,
-1 Cost = same cost as a gold healer
-2 Cost = same cost as a cost reduced gold healer
-3 Cost = same cost as a silver healer
-4 Cost = Justice. (After CC, same cost as a non-CC gold healer)

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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Fluoride can be fed to Arisa for all I care, really dislike her for some reason.

Hence, yes, 30 CC her, level her to 21 afterwards, and if Echidna turns out to be a healer then feed her to Arisa for skill level increase and lots of exp (150 + 20 * 20 = 650 exp * 8 = 5.2k exp)
You do need to 30CC a healer, just don't cost reduce the healer after you 30CC her. (I suggest fluoride, since I like Arisa much better, but story mission drop is for Fluoride hence she's easier to cost reduce)

Yeah I like Arisa? better (She translated to Alisa for me). I guess having a 30cc Fluoride and feeding her to someone else later is better than me not using her anyways, since I don't care much for her and generally just stick with Alisa/Iris. My Alisa is already cost reduced too and Fluoride isn't.

Only downside is that I had to use up all my gifts on her, daw. Yeah it seems worth it to try for the cost reduction on Echidna, whatever she is. 3 days to go, should take me a day to CC/level Fluoride and that leaves plenty of time to fool around with improving the rest of my team and beating at least some of the levels if the ones after 20/2 are a bit easier as you say. I actually wasn't too far off from beating 20/2 last time I tried.

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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If you got stuck on a level, don't waste more charisma/stamina on it, check out some videos on youtube instead and see their strategy.

Personally, I don't mind rerunning 竜姫の復活:地底の決戦 and record it for you. (I will limit myself to 3 healer, 1 CC, no princess) Since after 23 tries, I still couldn't complete the drop table. (Given up on it)

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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If you got stuck on a level, don't waste more charisma/stamina on it, check out some videos on youtube instead and see their strategy.

Personally, I don't mind rerunning 竜姫の復活:地底の決戦 and record it for you. (I will limit myself to 3 healer, 1 CC, no princess) Since after 23 tries, I still couldn't complete the drop table. (Given up on it)

Oh yeah I like studying the videos. I'm one of those people who usually researches things like this before I attempt them. I only attempted the level every few days or so to see how I could do, but last time I was pretty close, so I think once I CC fluoride and level her a bit I should be able to cheese my way passed 20/2 (Maybe not 3 star, but I think I can at least 1 star it).

More videos is always helpful. The one problem that I have is that most of them are done by level 100 people, I know you aren't quite there yet so it'd be closer to my level anyways which is nice. The difference in the Prince's passive from level 55ish to 100 is quite big.

 

[Ophis]

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A really nice video for those who have lower level units and I do agree on trying to complete the low cost since you'll never know when they'll do the event again(probably never).

Completing the drops sure is painful was already prepared giving up and tried one last time finally dropping the magic crystal at 20/2 completing the list.
Is it me or the silver dragon only drop once since I only get one each mission?

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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Messed up 竜姫の復活:地底の決戦 quite horribly (1 star clear, no drop). Even with 30% damage reduction due to wrong placement of the CCed healer. I need to retake this video, hence I will upload it hopefully tonight. (No stamina ._.)

Got it on your Prince level. I am using the first title so that my buff is 10% as opposed to 17%. That should equalize things out outside of 66 more damage from prince. Also note 30% damage reduction from dragon mage.

But note, you really need a single healer that can outheal the dragon mage, otherwise regardless of strategy, your party will be slowly wiped.

Is it me or the silver dragon only drop once since I only get one each mission?

Drop chance is very low (5%?) for all event map except map 9. Map 9 has double drop chance (as in 5% * 2)

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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What's your prince's level at the moment? I am using the first title so that my buff is 10% as opposed to 17%. That should equalize things out outside of the 30% damage reduction from dragon mage.

But note, you really need a single healer that can outheal the dragon mage, otherwise regardless of strategy, your party will be slowly wiped.

Level 57, I use the 20% attack boost. Should I be using Brave (勇者) instead? I didn't know that's what those types of passives did, I mean raising the passive stat bonus of the Prince. Seems better to me, I'll try it out. Oh wow that's a lot better, glad I found that out. I thought it raised everyone else's skills or something, I didn't know it worked with his passive stat boost too.

How much damage does he do? My CC Alisa is only level 17 with max favor (312 attack unbuffed).

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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Title wise, they make a huge difference for the passive buff.
英雄の末裔 スキル効果小アップ(+3%)
勇者 28 スキル効果中アップ(+5%)
救世主 64 スキル効果大アップ(+7%)

Hence, you really should be using the above. (In your case, your at 7%+5% = 12%)

Considering that my dragon mage has 30% reduced damage, you need 30% more healing power respectively:
CC Alisa 254 ATK (31 CC -> 37, 31% affection) => 300+
Alisa 151 ATK (29, 0% affection) => 200+
Faidora 169 ATK (30, 0% affection) => 200+

Hence, assuming you have the 1.5x heal boost, your Alisa is good to go.
The other 2 healers can be 200+ish and should do fine. (Though you might end up retreat and reinforce another unit for 20/2, since there's 2 dragon mages. Hence you need 3 duelist, bring Carry, Mischa, and the silver bandit)

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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I do not have the 1.5 boost or the 30% magic damage reduction, lol. I guess that means a lot more leveling of my healers and Carry (Only level 17).

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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The 1.5x boost you will need (3 goddess crystal, it's worth it since silver dragon drop here which are worth 300 exp each and has Attack III, as good as any silver the rare gacha will drop)

The 30% reduction you do not. I got it because I thought the 2nd set of stages will be a lot harder, it isn't. I blame Ashurmen for convincing me it was gonna be hell on earth.

Explanation in progress for attached image, you can get the basic gisp of it. Need another 10 minutes to actually clarify the exact order though. (Had fun making it)
Update: Done. The key is having enough replacement for Carry that the bottom dragon mage dies before the top gets wiped. Once the bottom dragon mage dies, your CCed Alisa and Eris will out heal any damage the dragon mage does. It just take a long while to kill.

Spoiler

1) Soldier
2) Mischa
3) Prince
4) CC Alisa
5) Red circle (fire mage, or witch if you cannot get enough deployment cost in time)
6) Carry
7) Bandit
8) Iris
9) Red circle (healer)

Note 1: the dragon mage attacked by the bandit MUST die before both Carry and Carry's (HP matters, atk and defense doesn't. Another bandit or your best melee works) replacement retreats. (You might want more than 1 replacement, more hp = longer lasting)
Note 2: to kill the bottom dragon mage, reinforce the witch or fire mage on Q that you didn't use on the red circle and retreat before they die. Note since your healer will attempt to heal your mage/witch, make sure your bandit has enough hp to survive it first.
Note 3: Skill activation if your behind in hp, but you won't always have it ready when you need it. Hence, the bottom mage really does need to die fast)