Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

[marcus3708]

Re: Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

I guess I probably shouldn't since I haven't even gotten 1 platinum from the summons yet but it gave me that black during the last premium campaign . Just weird seeing all these blacks people are getting when their supposed to be only 3% they must all be outliers in the probability as the fact that Ive gotten a black unit but no platinum in all my total summons since starting this game suggest.

 

[Petite Soeur]

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@marcus3708:
I participate on the Japanese boards, and they're constantly posting screenshots of how much money they spent never to get the chance-up platinum or black units they wanted. The whole premium summoning is a trap with one person doing 33 summons only to receive one—just one—platinum unit: the male bishop Marius.

The only reason you should risk spending your crystals on the premium summoning is if you think you're going to benefit from the silver and gold units you're more likely to receive in a typical scenario at the very least. I stopped doing premium summonings after I got the gold rogue Betty way back during the Yurina event, and haven't felt compelled to do any more despite constant temptations (it helps that my unit box is always way too full).

Here's a summoning simulator:

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[1 Summon; 10,000 yen worth of summons; until you summon a black]
[specify unit (check the boxes for ones you want)]
[summon until you receive the specified unit(s)]
[reset]

I am surprised that the chance-up increased from 3x to 5x. That means you have a 1% chance of receiving Matsuri from among the 15 black units (the chance-up means each unit currently occupies a larger percentage of each rarity's pie; it doesn't increase the overall chance of receiving a specific rarity). I just did a simulation, and it took 155 summons for it to give me Matsuri.

 

[marcus3708]

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well look at what this simulator did for me with only 2 shots

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if only this could happen reliably in game. this kind of isn't helping me reaffirm that I shouldn't try for matsuri but I suppose this is just a fluke and the next 30 something summons will be no blacks

Im not quite sure how to set the chance up in the simulator yet though

 

[Longherin]

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The best way to...uh, play with a simulator is to do it a lot.

Kills the urge to gamble pretty fast when you average around 200 rolls per black unit.

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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千年戦争アイギス 小人と巨人2 ★3

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Saya cleared the above map earlier today by abusing Minvera's assasination. So I thought I would go at it more elegantly with AW Karma's sacrifice and brute force.

It worked, AW Karma's amazing in action against Aegis's hardest maps.

 

[marcus3708]

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the simulator seems pretty legit I played it a bit I was curious of how often you get 4-5 silvers in a row if that doesn't happen then you get men or the basic starter gold units you already have and don't really care about. I guess I have some pretty strange luck to have gotten that black phoenix summoner but have not seen a single platinum yet I think I might premium summon just once more to see if I can actually get a gold to make up for the 2 pieces of silver crap it gave me in a row. but other than that I have to say that if you dont get a black unit in the first 5 summons your very likely to not get one anytime soon and should just stop at least based on that simulator.

so yeah this is totally a trap. They need to make the unit that gives a bonus gold instead so its easier to get or at least platinum. Seriously redundant to try and get matsuri for the platinum drop bonus as rare as she is when you can just use those crystals to run the maps more

and Im at 132 revival stones for the black karma that reverse vampire healing she does seems pretty awesome I think as long as that 40/4 maps continues to give me 4 stones on average I should only need to use about 6 crystals regaining my stamina next weekend. I don't think I could handle the final lich/vampire map unless I can manage to raise up some efficient zombie killing units without interfering with my gold rush spamming.

 

[exkale]

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Well, finally found a solution to the Maribelle problem and Jelius was able to tank it safely again. One enemy got through only because I forgot to add Marius or Mehlis earlier to the top of the map to clear worms, but it's acceptable because I've already 3-starred this map.

 

[Creeping Terror]

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Dumb Question:

Will a Platnium Karma cost down a black karma?

 

[marcus3708]

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@marcus3708:
I participate on the Japanese boards, and they're constantly posting screenshots of how much money they spent never to get the chance-up platinum or black units they wanted.

where exactly are they posting this ? I'm interested in seeing how actual summons match up to the simulator

 

[Petite Soeur]

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Will a Platnium Karma cost down a black karma?

No, they're different units with different skills.

@marcus3708:
You're assuming that the game or simulator is somehow generating biased random numbers rather than fair ones. Even if you look at several dozen videos or screenshots, there's no way you're going to determine whether or not that is the case, or how to exploit it now that the game's RNG has been updated.

The Japanese board has thousands upon thousands of posts. It's a complete mess to dig through unless you can read Japanese (

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). They link to image dump sites (most of them have an expiration date) that require that you copy/paste the links, and most of the links are to screenshots with teams and map drop acquisitions. Few people are going to preface their link with something like "レミアム召喚", instead it's usually some variation of "うんこP死ね" (Die UnkoP) or whatever.

Premium Summoning Nicovideo Links:

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What you need to understand is how you would feel in a bad or typical scenario. The simulator is the fastest way of generating scenarios where you can visually look at the kinds of units you may get so you can decide if you would be satisfied if you were to also get something similar. You can do the same thing by looking at the available units on the wiki, and then partition them into segments with silver units taking up a 50% slice, and then counting the number of silver units you could get that won't make you upset, and then calculating your chances of getting the ones you would want before moving onto the gold, platinum, and black units.

 

[Anelai]

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I might be able to AW my Bernice to tank this crazy golem (I have all mats, just need to lvl her 45->60) but I wonder what drop chance is for exp cans from him? Maybe it is not worth to rush AW'ing.

I intended to AW my Carry after this event but I wont be able to AW Carry, AW Bernice, and farm both red and yellow crystals.
I purchased one Karma this week and I am on 190 Revival crystals now. I want to farm another 310 rev.crystals next week (I will have 16 stamina then!)

Looking for comments

ps. Every time I feel I should use my crystals on premium summoning (never done it) there happens to be another cool event - like last gold rush (I really wanted Claire, Carry, Iris and others then). Just when I was thinking about doing this premium summ after Elsa event - TADA! Another gold rush, even more important! I have to farm so many girls here @.@ And I am so low on crystals... Again Aegis saved me from wasting my mints

 

[marcus3708]

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hmm yeah I guess the simulator is more helpful looks like most of the nico videos are of the few people that actually get black units from premium summoning. I think if Im able to get most of the platinum units from this gold rush I wont have much reason to premium summon in the future except for Ceria or Themis.

But I was looking at some of the karma videos in there and man AW platinum karmas sprite looks so cool with the bats and blood really a shame that shes so useless. I will regret not getting her though if they buff her AW and actually make her useful later. Do you think its likely that they may make her AW really actually heal her or do they typical not go back and redo unit abilities?

 

[Anelai]

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[arisato minato]

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New map droplist:

Gold fairy
Black fairy (not this shit again)
Silver fairy.

Good luck for those who have Plat bandit. Best luck for those don't.

 

[Anelai]

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Ricca map looks easy as pie (I am stuck on Bernice map for now, so just watching videos)

 

[arisato minato]

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New Gold Rush map is a good place to farm Silver Fairy if you need. Their drop rate seem to be the same as the bronze fairy drop from the first Gold Rush map.

After 3 star, Ricca will came from the Left route.

Be careful with new enemy, they exploded after be killed and deal high AoE damage.

 

[Longherin]

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I think the silver fairy drops are actually a little lower than the bronze ones.

This new map is...one hell of a breather after the last one. The exploding enemies deal physical damage on kablooey.

 

[marcus3708]

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son of bitch why does the golem keep killing memento when I clearly summon the skeleton right after her I would have killed it by now if it'd stop doing this

Edit: F man I think my shitty silver units just arent strong enough to kill it still gets away with the same 20~30% health left even when he doesn't immediately kill memento

 

[IdontRuin]

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12 runs on new map (with Ceria) :
10x Silver fairy
1x Ricca

..so much nope.

 

[hybras]

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it's black fairy again! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


Fuck.


I don't know if this event is lenient or not, the design is sound, you get lots of life, and you can simply trap the boss when she appears to get the Platinum event unit. But, newbies might not be able to 3 star it in the first place, and if I remember correctly, event Platinum doesn't spawn until you 3 star the map. Meh.