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@Lafate:
I have absolutely no idea how you're getting Magic Tsukai and Demon Tsukai...

As for Magic Tsukai, I'm going to asssume it's '魔法使い' (Mahou Tsukai; Magic User), which is the name for the 'Mage' class. Magic User was invented for the Dungeons & Dragons RPG because the game creators were worried about a negative reaction if they called the class wizard or warlock from stupid people, who thought the game was turning young men into homosexuals and devil worshippers, or something. However, this class name has been introduced to Japan, and has been used by them ever since.

Demon Tsukai sounds like '魔物使い' (Mamono Tsukai; Monster User), but your description is closer to '呪術使い' (Jujutsu Tsukai; Curse User). The former could be localised as 'Monster Master', since Suil can summon two hellhound companions, and just attacks with a long-range magical attack with no other special effects. The last one is the same as an Enchanter or Voodoo Witch Doctor. Though, people associate negative enchantments with hexes, but hexes is really just another word for magic spells in another language; Hexenmeister is the German word for wizard or sorcerer. The Curse User has a ranged magical attack (similar to a necromancer), and does the following two things to enemies within range: 1) Lowers Attack by 10%; 2) Enemies below a certain percentage of their maximum health will instantly die if they're attacked (similar to the Black Onmyouji Mikoto's AW ability).

That said, Monster Users and Curse Users have a different attack speed from Necromancers. Monster Users are 59 while Necromancers are 103. No one has properly recorded Curse Users yet.

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Since the above is kind of messy.

魔物使い (Mamono Tsukai; Monster User):
Special Class: (Can Summon Token, and Has a Ranged Magical Attack.)

呪術使い (Jujutsu Tsukai; Curse User):
Normal Class: (Ranged Magical Attack; Enemies Within Range: Lower Attack (-10%), and Instant Death when Enemy Below a Certain Percent of Max HP is Attacked by Any of Your Characters.)
 
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I am curious, what does this mean? I don't play the Japanese version, just the English version.

Premium Summoning:
-Premium Summoning Chance-up Unit Rates:
+Platinum: 6x; Black: 7x.

Are their percentages increased or what?
 

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I am curious, what does this mean? I don't play the Japanese version, just the English version.

Premium Summoning:
-Premium Summoning Chance-up Unit Rates:
+Platinum: 6x; Black: 7x.

Are their percentages increased or what?
Let's say you have a 3% chance for a black and 10% for a platinum. Should you pull a black unit, the summon chance-up unit has a 7 times greater chance to show up than any other black.

It doesn't directly influence your chances in pulling a black or plat but should you pull one you have a 6 times or 7x greater chance of pulling the chance-up unit.
 

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Let's say you have a 3% chance for a black and 10% for a platinum. Should you pull a black unit, the summon chance-up unit has a 7 times greater chance to show up than any other black.

It doesn't directly influence your chances in pulling a black or plat but should you pull one you have a 6 times or 7x greater chance of pulling the chance-up unit.
OK. Thanks for the clarification. Also, have the percentages for black and platinum ever risen/changed?
 

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Not that I know of!
The x6 and x7 bonus was a buff they added at some point; it used to be much smaller, like x3 when this game started. Back on 2014/07/31, they buffed silver units by making them LV20 when you premium summon them.

Though, chance-up is misleading since you're unlikely to summon that particular unit even if you spend something like 10,000 points. Basically, you would have to spend 47,777~ points of crystals for a chance-up platinum unit (normally 129,999), and 52,380 points of crystals for a black one (normally 233,333). Gold units are more reasonable at 7,657 points of crystals for one (normally 27,927).

The most intelligent thing to do would be to ignore the temptation of a chance-up unit you like, and only roll premium when there's enough possible low-tier units available to lessen the likelihood of being disappointed from receiving mostly redundant garbage or characters that you dislike. I only rolled 10 times back in June because I got at least one unit that I wanted over consecutive simulations even though some of them were really plain results like a second Gunner Mel to cost-reduce and skill-up my main.

This game is good if you want just a random platinum or black unit, but harsh for anyone foolish enough to try and collect everything. The fact that they're giving Bashira away in the trading post made me glad I resisted all temptations to waste my crystals rolling for her when she had her chance-ups in the past.

@Altrius:
If I don't mention anything about 'within range', then 'all allies' should make you assume, instead of wonder, that it affects all units on the map. Her skill is a major improvement over her old one. We're getting 160 magic crystals from Joy being maxed.
 
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Back from Bali....... (with a little rant idiot airplane delay for 10hr)
Now time to catch up with farming revival (noel still -3/4)

I just read the patch note, but still want to ask some part.
1st: Serra Aw skill it mention heal all allies, but nothing about the range....
Does this mean she heal everyone on map ? or just her normal range?
+ That 10% -->50% aw ability on dmg nulification + atk 1.8x looks so nice, she will be a great tanker.

2nd: When did we actualy maxed joy fairy ? when i logged is already maxed so its sometime earlier than 10th


Now i had to start clearing main event >.<
and hopefuly had enuff chr / stm to farm revival event

The whole story rant about the airplane delay (don't read it if you don't care)
The plane flight suppose to be at 1 pm, but then at 12:30pm it said canceled... (due to smoke/ash from volcano eruption)
Customer all complain to Garuda office and the reinstated with promise they will release new plane out
Delayed to 4 pm... still ok waiting.
4pm: delayed to 5 pm said bali airport still closed
5pm: delayed to 6 pm reason don't have pilot still calling
6pm: delayed to 7pm still no pilot
7pm: delayed to 8 pm missing 1 waitress or whatever.....under the law legal requirement personal needed to flight the plane.
8:40.. saw 1 waitress come everyone like cheering for her..... my family was like want to trow rubish at her.... just what kind of excuse wait more than 5 hr for 1 waitress... with stupid reason as trafic jam
9pm got into plane...... then another delay said no parking spot in bali airport......
more waiting.... until 11 pm (everyone like inside the plane fricking hot as well) until it finaly start the flight.
PS: soo many assumption during the time like... they waiting more passenger as 60-70 passenger doesn't bring them profit for 1 flight (its big airplane too (2 floor)....but old.... they still have smoke barrier wtf?!)
And yes we actualy took the same flight with passenger that suppose to fly at 3pm / 8pm

Edit: Thanks for the info petite, looks like its really worth it investing Serra on her item collection event :D
dam i wish i can help more on that completion of joy.... need alot magic crystal for aw... + 1 gold witch to be aw fodder for belinda aw (its been a while but seriusly bad luck on silver witch drop)
Well main objective on spare time now is to be able to clear skill fairy map +....... somehow rob a bank to get enuff gold for all these aw skill (don't have gold get unit -.-)
 
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Important News:
-Emergency Maintenance Planned in the Future.

They're freezing accounts, and going through logs to catch past violators during and after the planned emergency maintenance, though I'm curious how they'll figure this out in the logs, or how far back they're planning to go, since this has been going on for a very long time, especially among Chinese and Korean players. It's probably easy to catch players that created a lot of black or sapphire units, but would it be possible for them to catch players that are more subtle, like making it so they get a platinum armour or event unit drop on maps that normally drop them?

In any case, this exploit isn't a bug, but just plain insecure programming. Due to the way things work, the upcoming maintenance might make the game buggy or unstable, so people should keep this in mind so they don't experience the same thing that broke Fruitsmoothie's back when Sandra crashed his game and made him waste 8 hours of stamina (speaking of Fruitsmoothie, I'm wondering if it wouldn't be rude or in poor taste to PM and ask him to log into the game for his free Camilla, since every 5000 returning players equals 1 sacred crystal for everyone).
 

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Back from Bali....... (with a little rant idiot airplane delay for 10hr)
Now time to catch up with farming revival (noel still -3/4)

I just read the patch note, but still want to ask some part.
1st: Serra Aw skill it mention heal all allies, but nothing about the range....
Does this mean she heal everyone on map ? or just her normal range?
+ That 10% -->50% aw ability on dmg nulification + atk 1.8x looks so nice, she will be a great tanker.

2nd: When did we actualy maxed joy fairy ? when i logged is already maxed so its sometime earlier than 10th


Now i had to start clearing main event >.<
and hopefuly had enuff chr / stm to farm revival event

The whole story rant about the airplane delay (don't read it if you don't care)
The plane flight suppose to be at 1 pm, but then at 12:30pm it said canceled... (due to smoke/ash from volcano eruption)
Customer all complain to Garuda office and the reinstated with promise they will release new plane out
Delayed to 4 pm... still ok waiting.
4pm: delayed to 5 pm said bali airport still closed
5pm: delayed to 6 pm reason don't have pilot still calling
6pm: delayed to 7pm still no pilot
7pm: delayed to 8 pm missing 1 waitress or whatever.....under the law legal requirement personal needed to flight the plane.
8:40.. saw 1 waitress come everyone like cheering for her..... my family was like want to trow rubish at her.... just what kind of excuse wait more than 5 hr for 1 waitress... with stupid reason as trafic jam
9pm got into plane...... then another delay said no parking spot in bali airport......
more waiting.... until 11 pm (everyone like inside the plane fricking hot as well) until it finaly start the flight.
PS: soo many assumption during the time like... they waiting more passenger as 60-70 passenger doesn't bring them profit for 1 flight (its big airplane too (2 floor)....but old.... they still have smoke barrier wtf?!)
And yes we actualy took the same flight with passenger that suppose to fly at 3pm / 8pm

Edit: Thanks for the info petite, looks like its really worth it investing Serra on her item collection event :D
dam i wish i can help more on that completion of joy.... need alot magic crystal for aw... + 1 gold witch to be aw fodder for belinda aw (its been a while but seriusly bad luck on silver witch drop)
Well main objective on spare time now is to be able to clear skill fairy map +....... somehow rob a bank to get enuff gold for all these aw skill (don't have gold get unit -.-)
Well, I'm think I know the reason for the delay. It's something about the mountain in the Java island that made such a mess.
 

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This game is good if you want just a random platinum or black unit, but harsh for anyone foolish enough to try and collect everything. The fact that they're giving Bashira away in the trading post made me glad I resisted all temptations to waste my crystals rolling for her when she had her chance-ups in the past.
Looking back I don't recall ever seeing the 6x/7x until much much later but perhaps that could be mostly me not caring. I started playing around the Solano event and "playing" is a very loose term. I didn't actually start putting in more time into the game until much later probably around the time Tamamo was the poll winner.

I'm glad they're giving all players a chance to get Bashira, but I wonder if I'll get the CR on mine. It's like that twitter comic of the prince feeding a copy of Katie to herself and not getting the CR and ends with him sad and sitting against a wall. I felt the same way when my B.Iris cannibalized herself and only got levels.
 

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In any case, this exploit isn't a bug, but just plain insecure programming. Due to the way things work, the upcoming maintenance might make the game buggy or unstable, so people should keep this in mind so they don't experience the same thing that broke Fruitsmoothie's back when Sandra crashed his game and made him waste 8 hours of stamina (speaking of Fruitsmoothie, I'm wondering if it wouldn't be rude or in poor taste to PM and ask him to log into the game for his free Camilla, since every 5000 returning players equals 1 sacred crystal for everyone).
I've also experienced this bug. I think it is not really a bug, just a problem with memory - happened when I wanted too many enemies at same moment. It happened to me with both Sandra and Pupuru.

As for Fruit: I would PM him. He may not be interested in playing Aegis anymore but it does cost him nothing to log in and he may eventually come back someday.

Or may he not.

@exkale: you are making me envious. I started almost 2 months before you and just an hour ago I hitted 196 lvl. The only premium characters I have are Cornelia and lvl 1 Mel and gold female samurai (forgot her name ._.).

I can't 3 star first 70/6 from event mission. I think: fuck it. I already have enough stars and this is so not worth it... I will do 2 stars strategy later for Joker fairy and I am done with it.

On the other hand I love this two revivals. I almost maxed out my Serra and Hores, raised a bit other plat girls. I also maxed out Noel and Raichi (they need only flowers to be AWd) and I still have a lot of gold fairies (maybe I will max CC Marie, that is quite a good idea).

And for the best: I have so many silver mages and HA I might be stocked for a while. I have only one silver soldier left so I hope for them in events soon, I also almost ran of valkyries and witches, I have only 6 or 7 left...

I already ate 64 Sacred Crystals in August and it was SO WORTH IT! (thanks God I got so many from revival maps...)

_____

EDIT: Woot! I have only 5 platinum fairies left @_____________@ How this happened!
 
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In any case, this exploit isn't a bug, but just plain insecure programming.
It makes me cry how poorly developed the game is..... I take my profession more as "way of life" so this kind of things pisses me off :p
 

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So...close...

I have AW'd Cutie-Pie'rate, and Noel...Betty is sitting at lvl 60....just...need a tiny but more gold!!

Then I will be able to get GOLD!!! Lots of Glorious Gold!!!!
 

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Well any software usually will have a bug or 2...
Even big game like FF14 there already alot of case bug happening and ppl exploiting too, although it seem SE notice it really fast...

This is actually a really hard exploit to be notice....
Since its being altered from the client side, the fact that its been well kept hidde for a long time is something we should cheer the dev team to be able to notice it.

For ppl like us who didn't cheat...
Lets just be glad this maintenance usually mean free SC :p or maybe there more compensation :D
 

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-Emergency Maintenance Planned in the Future.

They're freezing accounts, and going through logs to catch past violators during and after the planned emergency maintenance, though I'm curious how they'll figure this out in the logs, or how far back they're planning to go, since this has been going on for a very long time, especially among Chinese and Korean players.
I pity the people who bought these accounts.
 

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I wonder if they keep tabs on the origin of the units in the game?
(As in...oh, for example: Carrie - Gacha5)
I can't imagine this working out too well unless they have some pretty extensive logs though.
 

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Their logs should be pretty extensive. I do know that every unit has a date in which they were obtained. I do not know if there's an origin metadata, but they can check a player's action during the time frame it was received. For example, if I received Gold Unit x from the gacha, then there should be something like "date/time - action taken, premium5, -sc(5)."
 

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man that was painful trying to 3 star the 100/2 map with all the flies the map with the manticores wasn't much better its done but I feel like I just did brain surgery on someone. they need to just make an easy acesss sapphire fairy these spirit queens are a pain in the ass to obtain
 

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Well any software usually will have a bug or 2...
Even big game like FF14 there already alot of case bug happening and ppl exploiting too, although it seem SE notice it really fast...

This is actually a really hard exploit to be notice....
Since its being altered from the client side, the fact that its been well kept hidde for a long time is something we should cheer the dev team to be able to notice it.

For ppl like us who didn't cheat...
Lets just be glad this maintenance usually mean free SC :p or maybe there more compensation :D
That's not a bug but bad design. Like building a house without walls and expecting the animals to stay outside.
 

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So this is what freedom tastes like..


I really should have done this a long time ago. I can't carelessly feed excess units anymore. Now I have to start being a hoarder because space isn't an issue for a while. I don't have any SC to spare for the next item collection event, but the luxury of space puts me at ease.
 
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