Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

[exkale]

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Spent 50 SP crystals and I got Roberto and 2 Silver units, which is nice. Roberto was what I needed the most to complete my male team. The only problem now is that I need another silver healer so I can raise him. I hate this event.

 

[tomylee001001]

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btw is there any chance that "evil staff" of aegis will give us another collection type event after this one.

So, I'm going to have to spend between 16-18 SC for a very, very small chance at a rainbow fairy (most I ever got from one of these maps was 2 during Liana's event),

i dont know im lucky but i get 5(including the %100 drop) rainbow fairy from the 90/12 map from 12-15 runs

 

[khawk016]

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So after having to wait a week because I didn't realize that archangels need to two orbs to awaken:

This makes six awakened units (Betty, Stray, Iris, Katie, Berunisu & Chloe)

I have one more awakening fairy as well. Now I just have to decide who to use it on. I don't have anyone in mind.

from my understanding all golds cost 1 orb plats 2 and black 3 from the list of units youve awakened there all golds so 1 is all youve been charged up till chloe whos a plat
also just pulled a sue out of gatcha how is she? ive never seen anyone go crazy over her havent looked though i was hoping for sylbia when i saw the light as i have every other vampire hunter franc is the only cced one though she is base everything else

 

[Altrius]

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also just pulled a sue out of gatcha how is she? ive never seen anyone go crazy over her havent looked though i was hoping for sylbia when i saw the light as i have every other vampire hunter franc is the only cced one though she is base everything else

All i remember in discussion before is.
She have high aspd as the 1st unit having their affection bonus that decrease atk interval + her aw ability improve her aspd event further.
Her skill increase atk, which specialy important for VA who need as high atk as possible to bypass def and her skill also slow enemy incoming.
Multi shot + fast aspd + slow effect sound great to me and a VH class mean xtra dmg to undead (have fun with zombie dragon) where there tons of them, but low range (fixed when her skill aw)

 

[khawk016]

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All i remember in discussion before is.
She have high aspd as the 1st unit having their affection bonus that decrease atk interval + her aw ability improve her aspd event further.
Her skill increase atk, which specialy important for VA who need as high atk as possible to bypass def and her skill also slow enemy incoming.
Multi shot + fast aspd + slow effect sound great to me and a VH class mean xtra dmg to undead (have fun with zombie dragon) where there tons of them, but low range (fixed when her skill aw)

ahh so she does slow thats good enough to spend some time ccing her and using her in place of my franc thanks i was worried that -18% was bad

 

[Altrius]

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ahh so she does slow thats good enough to spend some time ccing her and using her in place of my franc thanks i was worried that -18% was bad

Just checked video on her.
While her atk did slow the enemy, the slow is not as much as despa slow aw skill that able to almost lock the enemy (or maybe cuz the video i saw before is on faty greater demon who walk fast)

Its actualy hard to see ppl got hyped on black gacha unit, cuz not like everyone can get them, unless those black unit looks so broken.
These are black gacha that i heard ppl get hyped on them before.
Nanally is popular / low cost / 5x shot burst.
Leone 7 shoot, those number of arrow already felt like machine gun.
Aisha, we all know those aw skill is No.1 most broken map clear skill
Black mage (forgot name), far range bombing everywhere for long duration, almost long enuff start of map --> clear.
Kikyo, not sure the reason why ppl got hyped on her before that i heard someone goes bankcrupt trying to get her.... I think its the 3x rate for platinum gold rush / atk up aw ability
Sybilla, didn't heard much about her other than princess part and now new illustration
Olivia: Everytime she mention i always remember petite comic on her dodging all those atk + explosion.
Mikoto: The World (yup only this)
The rest, sorry can't remember much talk about them other just mention OP / useful....
+Deine: crazy stat *big number only* with all those buff + skill, but well its in rural gate (before aw skill introduce)

 

[khawk016]

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you almost forgot lil ol iris she may not have pre aw thing like olivia but with her katie and len awakened thats 14% def to all units and half is iris alone

 

[Health_is_Wealth]

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Minerva isn't considered OP? I've seen some people in /jp/ say she's crazy strong.

 

[ieyasu]

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Minerva isn't considered OP? I've seen some people in /jp/ say she's crazy strong.

Long range and Insta-kill high damage single target shots? o_o

 

[Altrius]

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Ergh i did say the rest is OP / useful.
But there just not much talk about them. (in this thread at least / the other small thread i know kind of small community / another 1 Himeuta is rising in poppulation on aigis thread)

I remember Minerva was a big hype when skill aw introduce, if you remember her atk keep increase for every skill she use. (there is a cap... don't even think she might be able to hit 99,999 atk)
This make her all powerful in long map like subjugation. (that time was Maurette subjugation event, poor pharaoh x 4 >.<)
Edit: now that i think again why there no one mention they going to roll soo much premium gacha just to get Minerva... like they did on Kikyo / Ester / Nanaly / Aisha (1st time skill aw introduce u can tell how many ppl crazy about her and the she become unit spotlight during nagi item collection event *its a trap*)

As for B. Iris, it was mention she is 1 of the top 5 broken unit (ranking might change) due to those def increase make almost all unit able to tank. But thats all, but again thats not a big hype i guess since most ppl basicaly hunger for blood ( map cleaning skill).

1 that was complained before was Paladin Cornelia as she was 1 of the most *not* useful before, but this changed ever since paladin got buffed and she become 1 of the highest def unit (of coz only when her hp low... cuz thats the mechanism)

 

[Health_is_Wealth]

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Yeah, my reading is selective, haha, sorry bout that. Speaking of Cornelia, I'd actually love to get her. I think she's cute and I just like tanky things. I'll be fine with just her being my black, I'll never get her though. There's Anya though is the cute and tanky black department, I'd just need to wait for the revival.

I'd also like an Aisha but only to reduce Raven's CD. I just checked the wiki and the revival for the rear guard strategist (Len?) event is over so I'll have to wait for maybe a year to get one. Hope we get an event with one soon, even a just gold one.

 

[leo11234]

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So kurissa is just Misha 2.0? I don't know how I feel about this.

 

[bladeguy]

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Kurissa doesn't really have that big BOOM or impact that some of the other blacks have when they are placed down like Aisha raining death on the entire screen, or Minerva 2 shotting everything as some examples. That makes Kurissa be on the low side.

When you place Kurissa down, the most She'll do is kill some goblins to generate cost early on, or isolate enemies while being self sustaining(unless you Aw Skill her, then she just becomes better at dueling, but that won't aoe clear the map, or instantly take out priority targets).

 

[exkale]

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Low-tier is a weird way to put it for Black units lol. At the very least, they are all mid-tier because of their stats, and then you adjust the tiers from there depending on the unit's class/stats/skills/aw ability. Putting them all on low-tier just makes it sound like they are bad to use or are just a hindrance, when they are not. Mid-tier units just doesn't excel as well as the higher tiers or have something that limits them from being better.

 

[khawk016]

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i kinda disagree with oliver since she has a potential to be more and more amazing as more elves and dwarves get added but otherwise id agree shes less than amazing compared to sylbia or anya or most blacks at this time

 

[Altrius]

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Instead of putting these unit into high med low tier and so on.
I believe ppl just have different perspective and there going to be alot disagreement if we actually ranked everything, unless they just totaly broken that everyone agree on (that turtle got the top spot.... everyone agree right ? / please don't say her CD is just too long just for the arguement sake..)

Of coz there situational stuff like Olivia, as he said if there more elf + dwarf / if there another map with tons and i mean a swarm of those goblin bomber racing at same time. (i think this was in Lucielle map) / another if there multiple of vampire lord boss (this boss 1 hit paralyst and pass trough ur unit, with that said karma can't tank him unless you have Liana / If you argue just kill him with nanally / Leone burst I'm not replying)

With that said, I believe ppl have their own hierachy where they going to place which tier their unit at....

 

[Aarkken]

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Hmm all this talk of Minerva is making me want to Awaken my min cost Minerva... I just don't like the look of her AW though but the power.

So I'm guessing her AW skill is situational over her default rapid instant kill spam?

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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Low-tier is a weird way to put it for Black units lol.

When it comes to black unit, and compared to each other. It's really comparing the brokenness meter at full potential. Black by default (with a few exceptions) are noticeably to significantly better than their platinum counter-part.

So kurissa is just Misha 2.0?

After AW and skill AW, Misha x2.0, roughly double status and 'deployment cost gain' and everything. Misha is an awesome silver unit ok? *sheepish*

Kurisa is one of my personal favorite tbh.

i kinda disagree with oliver since she has a potential to be more and more amazing as more elves and dwarves get added

Her AW passive doesn't increase her own stats (noticeably) but adds synergy to elf/drawf units. (Awesome for gold/plat) This argument applies against Leone as well. She's valued due to top burst dps, not her AW skill.

Yuyu, Spika are top tier combat wise respectively for their rarity. It's the other units that are dragging the 'usefulness' of Olivia as support AW.

Performance wise, I gotta say I missed a spot:
「聖剣アルタキエラ」に変化、発動中は15秒物理攻撃を100％回避、さらに攻撃速度が2倍程度に増加する。
While I was aware of her skill AW, I assumed that the attack speed boost is just 'faster'. However, as a unit with magical damage, double attack speed = double damage or more (with dancer) Paired with her 100% physical dodge *sheepish*

^ Reason enough to rate her as high tier.

I believe ppl just have different perspective and there going to be alot disagreement if we actually ranked everything

I am usually pretty-unbiased when it comes to ranking and open to opinions. (I would state it if I am being biased)

If your counter-argument is good, I would change the ranking.

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On other news, 500/500 first try on new subjucation map. After misplacing Kurisa on a spot no healer can reach without range extend. ...
And Kurisa farmed over 3 digit (300? 400?) deployment points (I am not kidding, I was at > 1k deployment points at the end) and survived until the multiple lich dragon arrived *sheepish*

Liana + Sophie + Kurisa best team. (I literally sustained Kurisa with Liana's AW skill lol)

Despite the situational performance mentioned above, Kurisa is still low tier due to lack of burst/ranged attack/ridiculous stats as a melee. She's solid though.

multiple of vampire lord boss (this boss 1 hit paralyst and pass trough ur unit, with that said karma can't tank him unless you have Liana / If you argue just kill him with nanally / Leone burst I'm not replying)

My Sophie was actually downed due to this. Forgot Lich Dragon actually stuns after 3rd strike. I should have timed by my Liana skill better :X (So I bursted it down with Nanaly anyways. Just like you said xD)


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So I'm guessing her AW skill is situational over her default rapid instant kill spam?

AW Skill is only suited for subjugation map. Otherwise, her default rapid instant kill spam is better.
With her AW skill, you lose both instant kill and attack speed boost (important).

 

[exkale]

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Her AW passive doesn't increase her own stats (noticeably) but adds synergy to elf/drawf units. (Awesome for gold/plat) This argument applies against Leone as well. She's valued due to top burst dps, not her AW skill.

Olivia's passive does affect herself. Black Princesses have 20 MR. Olivia has 5 more because of her Elf race, and then her ability adds another 5. Since her ability only works during a mission, then it doesn't show in the normal status screen. It is during a mission where she becomes 1-cost lower and gains 5 extra MR, which puts her at 30 MR.

 

[KatsuraJun]

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It's kind of weird to me at least to rate Grace as low tier but Sybilla as high tier when she's, unawakened, outperformed my awakened Sybilla in a lot of situations for me, the comparison being that both are melee units that deal ranged magic damgae.

It's true Sybilla does much higher single target damage but the combination of being nigh unkillable, multiple block and AoE has saved me in more situations than I can count. Sybilla does a lot of damage to a single target, but she's still pretty much paper and handles groups much more poorly, so I end up treating her like a ranged unit often times when there's a serious pinch.

I suppose the argument could be made that Jessica is just as good offensively, but Grace's "general purpose" usefulness both defensively (against both physical and magical damage I might add) and offensively makes her what I consider my best unit. Often times I just set her down somewhere I just need everything to disappear RIGHT NOW with no healer support because I didn't have enough sortie points or something at the time and she pretty much does just that.

For my other non-event black units, (relatively speaking) Nunally handles swarms poorly, Sybilla handles them slightly better but can't really take a hit well, Kurissa doesn't excel at anything in particular besides having all around good stats, it might just be that I kept her non-aw skill, but I feel that Estelle deals relatively little damage on her own compared to pretty much everyone else I mentioned when not paired with another magic damage unit to fully utilize her shred, and Amanda just hits pretty hard but doesn't really take hits that well either and like Kurissa, doesn't do anything particularly special besides clogging up my inventory with swathes of platinum armors (though I still need to skill awk her and try her bandit skill out with Imeria and Seria, that might change my opinion).

I still need to level Minerva to form an opinion about her relative to Grace, but that's just my two cents at least. I suppose it is weird comparing a lot of these units that serve different offensive roles, but I guess my point is that part of why I feel you're underrating Grace is because she's so generally good at so many things, it's easy to use her as a panic button that can easily hold back and clear out an entire area of dangerous enemies during her skill activation.