@PJFrost
Most of the early game is about getting your units past certain stat thresholds, which is why your units are getting wrecked. You'll want to raise your units so that they take as little damage as possible. Raising a heavy armor to optimal levels will help you with story mode progression because they will be soaking in damage from the strong enemies, while also staying on the field long enough for your healers to do their job. On the same vein, healers also need to be strong enough to heal the heavy armors. They need to be leveled up to lessen the number of heals required to get the heavy armor back to full HP. One of the wiki has the stats of the enemies for the story mode missions. You can compare it to your units' stats and see how they match up against each other and gauge how difficult it will be.
Don't neglect your healers' and your tanks' affection. Defense may not seem great, but it really makes a big difference against higher tier threats.
EDIT:
OMG Draa, you must keep more attention ;p Yes, they changed Carrie to Bashira, thats why we could buy ONE Bashira for magic crystals in shop some time ago. I hope you did that?
._. I did get the Bashira. But that costed 150 magic crystals D:
:/ *rolls* ah well, they could have given everyone Thethis, and then all hell would break lose. *insert who's Bashira meme here*
@Dragonpaladin: First of all, is Dorothy (Avenger) A good duelist? I just pulled her from another 5 gems and she seems quite cool. Thanks for tutoring me through everything!
All avenger by definition are duelist. All avenger by definition are situation dependent (specifically enemy attack). She's a situational good duelist, otherwise decent duelist. I would still search for something more stable with higher attack and defense.
On the other hand, no CC. So a good place to dump exp without worrying about class change.
Don't neglect your healers' and your tanks' affection. Defense may not seem great, but it really makes a big difference against higher tier threats.
^ That make or break a silver rarity unit I am afraid. Hence, please pump affection.
Again you need CC units sooner rather than later. Any unit you early CC (30) you end up wasting his/her potential. This is ok for Male unit given that you do not skill up/cost reduce him and eat him later (for exp) but remember CC requires a duplicate of the unit anyways. Which has higher priority than cost reduction/skill up.
Frankly, follow the CC list before you continue the grind. Getting to Lv50 on a silver archer requires a significant amount of investment this early in the game but manageable by farming Challenge maps. Low-cost battle.
After the first CC archer, and max affection on her, your life becomes noticeablely easier. Followed by CC healer and CC witch and suddenly the game becomes a lot more playable.
Since you have Jerome, you DO NOT need to CC Katie. (Gold soldier you currently have) Jerome is always better and does not need to be CCed. (Focus on Bashira with platinum fairy first)
Hence you are looking at something like this based on fairy (rarity)
Reminder: After CC, raise them to level 30. 50CC30 is usually where you want your unit to be for the next stage. Silver:
1) CC Daniella (Atk up) unless you hate her. (In that case Soma-chan who has starting affection like Arisa - also Soma-chan is love and meme, but Daniella is more efficient)
2) CC Arisa (Blue haired girl healer)
3) CC Rean (Bronze haired heavy armor)
4) CC Mischa (Black short hair valkyrie)
--- Higher priority to gold rarity
5) CC Bandit (either)
6) CC Calliope (and proceed to min-cost her with copies)
Fairy-map: Low Cost Battle
Gold:
1) CC Chloris
2) Pump exp into Dorothy until 40
3) CC Merrice
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4) CC Iris
5) CC Katie
Fairy-map: Giant enemy
Platinum:
Hard to get fairy for this until you clear challenge mission until that mission (whatever it's called ._.) with red living armor spam. Which requires you to have CC Chloris and CC Merrice anyways.
Of course you can also farm low difficulty fairy rescue. But that's only Tuesday.
1) CC Bashira (which requires 3 silver archer and will kill off all your soma/daniella duplicates)
2) Raise Jerome to 50 but DO NOT CC him. He's a lot better as a first deploy without being CCed
Care: Do not feed any silver non-male for exp.
Once you pick either Daniella or Soma, you want to stick with your choice. The same duplicate will be needed for cost reduction and 1 for CC. The 3 other duplicate will need to be saved for Bashira.
Silver rarity unit that can be safely used for cost-reduction.
Outside of archer, you will need the following duplicates/spare.
Until you have the below # of spare silver units (not the units you are using), do NOT eat extras for cost reduction/skill up.
Silver soldiers should all be saved for class-change. You DO NOT need another soldier outside of Katie and Jerome. (Jerome too op) and all Class-change for melee rarity platinum or above requires a silver soldier.
Bronze units to raise and min cost:
Bronze soldier x2
Bronze mage
Due to affection system, female units at silver rarity is always better than male. Higher potential as well. With the exception of bandit and bishop (and possibly one other) of course.
Note: Whatever you do, do not skill up Bashira/Jerome's skill. Their skill changes after class-change, and the effect of upgrading their skill pre-AW is completely useless.
Wow, that's a lot of info... Thank you very much, Draa. I just can't fathom how I'm going to get all that XP to even CC one or two things, but... I guess that's the grind coming after all!!
Thank you very much for the info, I'll still be around like everybody else and report on progress! I'm gonna focus on my healers for now and level them up then probably try to CC Daniella since I don't mind her much... Thanks for the info again! ^^
Edit: I just now realized I fed all but one of my daniellas to somebody and now I can't CC... Fuck. What would be a good way to get another one? Can I get anything other than iron from base gacha?
Edit: I just now realized I fed all but one of my daniellas to somebody and now I can't CC... Fuck. What would be a good way to get another one? Can I get anything other than iron from base gacha?
Climb story mission, since you can proceed to the next story mission without 3 starring it.
Refer to:
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Last column is completion reward, so check where you are at and where to get to.
Note: 王城奪還 is a wall you cannot pass yet. The minimal requirement for that map is:
Actually use this strategy:
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Any CCed unit of course, would make your life easier.
(level as usual if you aren't capable of clearing it)
2k gold gacha sometimes give silver (3%), but getting an archer from it is like 'ha ha ha' type of chance.
@Draa, Why you call Mehlis Merrice? D: I dont understand ._.
@PJFrost
about min cost bronze: while bronze mage would be helpfull I don't think you need bronze soldiers. I managed without them just fine for more than a year.
Are you ok with us calling girls with names instead of looks/class?
Base gacha: you can get everything from it, although there is really low chance to get black. I don't really remember drop chances, silver was few %, black something like 0,01% chance or smth like that. It is still possible though. Some people here got black from base gacha.
Getting black rarity from base gacha or SP gacha is like miracle -.- (as mention the % chance like 0.01%)
and they also cost quite alot of money.
I believe its better to save the gold for combine nstead of base summon, as you notice how much deficit of money when you start doing combine.
I remember i used to do 2nd map of monday daily to get a nice 200-300k gold, which they all used up just to lvl unit.
1 of the reason is at begining the exp / unit combine is still low so you will likely combine alot... (if i remember correctly 1 of those iron only give around 100 exp / unit)
While we who did the 3rd story map geting that bronze samurai (27) give us 230 exp / unit.
So yeah as you see its cost alot more gold on combination just to make those unit hit lvl 50 for new player, he will eed to tackle some of the event map to get the silver archer... just like us pray there a good silver map to be farmed somewhere in the next event.
The maintenance is on thursday, pray the easy map have silver archer in it (sorry this kinda doubtful atm as there already a map with 2 silver archer @ current event, its on 50/5 which might be too hard) or revival event with slver archer that doable...
I butcher JP translated names on purpose a lot of the time, if it sounds close enough people will get it, so it's good enough. Also, it should actually be Mehris, not lis.
メーリス
me-risu.
Hence Merrice is actually closer to the correct pronunciation when translating directly from the Katahana.
Wanna ask a stupid question....
As mention before out of strange miracle luck i got Jerome out of SP summon, but now it left me confuse what to do with him >.<
This is more in regard to priorty list question, as i know how great he is for cost recovery, but it seem i will need to be able to AW him 1st for all his usefulness.
First i only have 1 soldier Aria, which is why a 2nd soldier would be really nice atm, but at same time i don't need to deploy 2 soldier at most of the time (heck i been fine with just 1 soldier for 7 month of playing)
Next more on priority planning... My current plan is AW bernice 1st is a must specialy i'm in serious need of hard tank.
I will also need a 2nd hard tank, which currently my best candidate is either Raichi (currently on hold due to feeling we will get mage armour event unit) or Yurina *-5/6* (hard and MR tank at same time, that paladin class passive seem really nice combined with her atk down skill *not gonna aw the skill cuz it only reduce physical atk*)
So the stupid question i want to know is....
How important is Jerome that i should put him more into priorty, maybe like 2nd to focus after bernice AW done.
Cuz I'm also scared there will be a time when i'm in really need of 2nd soldier (ex: subjugation without cost recovery) or if i keep postponing him... he will stuck in barrack forever (there might event unit that need a faster priorty like i mention before if a mage armour will be introduce next)
Edit: forgot to mention, my resources on plat fairy have 15, so after bernice done and got a good lvl (46 or 53) i plan to rush 1 plat unit to AW.... this can be Reanbell / Yurina / Chloe / or the new got Jerome
PS: i never expect to get a lucky draw before out of base / sp summon so this really left me confuse (had already given up on any gacha plat / black unit)
Is aria the 1 give 2% defense when aw? I change her to a semi tanker due to unknownly SKILL AW (reinforcment -> reinforcment.defend ) which increase her armor to BS level.
The only drawback is the use of skill due to the long lasting time on active when reinforcment.defend
Is aria the 1 give 2% defense when aw? I change her to a semi tanker due to unknownly SKILL AW (reinforcment -> reinforcment.defend ) which increase her armor to BS level.
The only drawback is the use of skill due to the long lasting time on active when reinforcment.defend
Ah thats Katie...
Aria is the 1 that give 2% atk to your whole party and her affection bonus is + atk...
Her aw skill increase her atk by 1.8x on duration + cost recovery, but i didn't AW skill her as i need her to be more on cost recovery duty. (if you aw skill it take longer for her to use her skill aain the 2nd time)
Well basicaly is atk ver of katie
Is aria the 1 give 2% defense when aw? I change her to a semi tanker due to unknownly SKILL AW (reinforcment -> reinforcment.defend ) which increase her armor to BS level.
The only drawback is the use of skill due to the long lasting time on active when reinforcment.defend
Aria is the offensive soldier, you're thinking of Katie. Aria gives 2% attack and 1.8x attack when skill AW. Katie is the defensive variant with 2% defense and 1.8x defense when skill AW.
I not good with names even with english.
I have both but only i aw skill her due to need tank and i do not like to H-armor.
I too have a question to ask which AW skill to change better i have both stuck at 4/5.
1. Badit girl (black) skill death stirke-> aoe death strike
2. Dragon P. Anya if i not misstaken (black) skill idk what it is call
This is more in regard to priorty list question, as i know how great he is for cost recovery, but it seem i will need to be able to AW him 1st for all his usefulness.
Jerome works fine at Lv50 pre-CC. There's no reason to CC him unless you are AWing him due increased cost after CC. In fact if it's just cost regen you want, feel free to leave Jerome at level 1, use skill and then retreat.
Next more on priority planning... My current plan is AW bernice 1st is a must specialy i'm in serious need of hard tank.
Hard tank you will ever need 1 of. The other will always be a ace duelist. Due to being too taxxing on your healing when you are using 2 hard-tanks.
2nd tank is usually an off-tank like Anya (who's also a hard tank) or a paladin/samurai, something with multi-block, high raw defense, possibly with skill that increases defense but still can do damage. Yurina will work great since her skill and class perk works well together. Her AW skill will also turn her into a hard tank for the duration. But you shouldn't need it. (I mean, it's only x2 defense, -10% physical attack, x1.5 when hp is less than half)
However, your ace duelist should always be stronger in both attack and defense department than your 2nd hard tank. The reason again, is healing. Dragon rider makes great duelist, but usually it's a valkyrie or a princess. (Defense doesn't have high enough defense, so requires baby-sitting)
Edit: forgot to mention, my resources on plat fairy have 15, so after bernice done and got a good lvl (46 or 53) i plan to rush 1 plat unit to AW.... this can be Reanbell / Yurina / Chloe / or the new got Jerome
Yurina sounds good as a off-tank, Chloe can do well as a sub-duelist/multi engage. Reanbell is ... >> aoe ninja with good attack, but hard to use well. I don't even use my AW Marie.
As explained above, Non-CC Jerome = good, CC Jerome = bad. AW Jerome = great.
However, your ace duelist should always be stronger in both attack and defense department than your 2nd hard tank. The reason again, is healing. Dragon rider makes great duelist, but usually it's a valkyrie or a princess. (Defense doesn't have high enough defense, so requires baby-sitting)
Draa... you really hit me where it hurt the most T_T
I will be honest, even now i still don't have anyone that i can be called A-C-E duelist.
I'm pretty sure an AW themis (-0/1) can't be considered Ace enuff, so does AW nagi (-4/9) or any of the swordmaster (Sandra / Gloria).
I had always focus with 1 way of strategy.... thats is powerful ranged atk (this where archer atk (Claire / Spica *950 atk* + Rachel *1200 atk* making their way killing stuff piercing enuff def, while those sword master also use their ranged 1 shot kill skill to kill any unit asap as well. (a little note thats shouldn't be followed.... The black orc on current event map on left side... even they enraged rachel still doing well hiting them down before they reach the 2 witch killing area <3 / as for the green orc before or after enrage the archer already killing them)
My team have 3 impotant part they lacking..
1st the most important 1 is hard tank - hence this where bernice come in
2nd strong duelist, whether they princess or valk or bandit or dragon rider... i have none of those.
So far i had always use swordmaster as substitute here.... if can't thats where all these healer come in.
3rd single focus high dmg magical atk @ low cost... apparently AW belinda / CC Chloris is not strong enuff >.< i need something that have a really strong nuke magic atk like hores aw skill if possible
For now i pray they don't release a boss enemy with 1000 def like that youkai spider... or at least they didnt come at the very start of the map so i had enuff cost to deploy the 2 AW bishop or had the time for those ranged skill to be up
PS: if they don't have nagi guarding the door at her last event map proabably fail that map..... badly
Edit: now that i checked Pre-CC jerome is already call reinforce III...... why i didn't think of that !!! don't need to CC him until far later on
You should have Carrie or Misha? Both are good duelists, although Carrie is much better after AW (on the other hand she is just gold so easy to raise ). You can also use silver bandit as substitute.
Well i do have Carrie, but she has been picking up dust for no idea how long...
As for misha nope still havent made 1 min cost, all resources always went to gold or plat event unit...
Well I do have the duelist part, just don't have the *Ace* duelist... which i believe here is something like thetis / Lilia / Imeria / lyra / Claudia etc etc those that have high stat and more stat boosting skill.
like draa mention "ace duelist should always be stronger in both attack and defense department than your 2nd hard tank"
I know, but...... i know i look at her stat..... but but but....
I need all the resources i can get atm to aim on my priortity T_T....
My brain going to overheat soon checking which i should prioritise 1st....
there just too much management i need to handle >.<...
Right now i had been terminating stuff and see if there alterntive and check what i need the most -.-
The 1 I'm 100% sure i will not budge is AW bernice as this important for tanking 3000 atk enemy.... (none of my unit able to tank it atm)
But after that... Chloe ? Jerome ? Yurina ? Raichi? Reanbell ? and now Anelai also said Carrie..... *head explode*
Alright so after sleeping and progressing a bit, here's my "development diary", since you guys have given me so much help:
I have gotten past the mission that was giving me so much problems (turns out leaving the road empty and just slowing everything down with witches and aoeing is actually quite awesome), and I'm farming to grind my daniella up to lv 50 before I CC her (I already have a second one). Other than that, I've gone all the way up to prince rank 30 and I'm farming a stage in which all the rewards are archers including a bronze one. Other than that, I got a silver bishop from base draw, which has turned out to be quite a good unit, more than I expected, helps me keep my ranged units alive in between waves and provides firepower during them, so I don't need to fill too many spots with dedicated healers.
I still have a few doubts though... Like, I still don't understand why CC'ing Daniella would be better than Kuzuha, considering her skill is the same as bashira, double shot, and I think it goes up to triple shot if I CC her? (Not sure) I can just use the extra daniellas on CC'ing Kuzuha... What would be the benefits of choosing her over Kuzuha? That I could get her cost down? After a cost reduction, her cost is the same as kuzuha... I'm kidna lost in that point tbh.
