Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

[crow_mw]

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There are some 'ok' AW skills, like the ones you mentioned. However, while it would be cool to have them, the investment is too much. Usually you need couple of fairies to max skill, and than gold and orbs... I am however thinking about skill AWing Noel, now that her skill is on silver bishop - I assume we will eventually get her on some farm map.

I have reached a point at which Petite was few months ago - I'm starved for gold. This week alone I wanted to spend 1 milion on AWs and skill AWs. There are also some chars that I have at max level and have corresponding silvers, but don't AW them due to lack of gold.

The comics were a nice read. It is a pity that 'newer' characters don't have that much character. The comics are in Chinese, right?

 

[leo11234]

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Yea they're in Chinese if they're all like the nanaly one.

Also I feel like we need more tsunderes. Like a week allocated to tsundere. Have a new tsundere black and platinum unit, have spica guest star in the map. Have the event girl help you but she's doing it as a part of her duty and it's not like she likes you or anything bakaaaa.

 

[Lafate]

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*Pokes head in after getting out of the hospital.*

Uh, hi another question.... how does Len's awakened skill work? I understand that it is a three stage activation that get progressively more powerful. The part I'm confused on is it increasing her attack. Is it a permanent effect? Does her attack increase on skill activation or after the defense from the skills wears off?

EDIT: Might as well ask for Uzume as well... since their skills are similar.

EDIT2: Also if anyone remembers which map was best for farming the Art of War Manuals?

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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EDIT2: Also if anyone remembers which map was best for farming the Art of War Manuals?

Frankly, skip Lian is the preferred choice due to how even after x #of buffs, Lian is still useless. I might be a bit harsh on her, some people still find a use for her by building the whole party around her. But basically, that's how much effort you have to spend in order to make her use-able.

But if you want to grind 700* war manuals for no apparent reason just because 'I wanna max this character because, look, potential!' then go ahead and grind the 2nd part last map which has the highest drop rate. Also, a reminder that she's completely un-use-able until after AW where she gains double attack.

Arguably, the 1st part last map is close enough that there's no point waiting until the 2nd part last map, but the rate is still pretty bad for either one.
She's one of the one I didn't bother past 400* items.

Spoiler

A proper explanation of how useless 15 second 20% defense is, unless you plan to burst it down in 15, *insert Nanaly here* in which case you might as well use Karma. 974 defense that CC Berenice is easily able to output at skill level 3 with Prince, isn't going to change much with 20%+5% passive on top. (1228) and if you have to deal with something that has enough attack to ohko Berenice even with skill up and need that extra defense, 15 seconds usually isn't going to be enough.

Of course, the above can also be said, that if I can burst that thing down in 15 seconds, and I don't have Karma anyways, Lian is going to get me through this map! - type of situation also exist. And you can also argue 30% defense for subjugation missions since you have enough time to prepare for it. *shrugs* refer to the first part where you built a party around Lian.

Uh, hi another question.... how does Len's awakened skill work? I understand that it is a three stage activation that get progressively more powerful. The part I'm confused on is it increasing her attack. Is it a permanent effect? Does her attack increase on skill activation or after the defense from the skills wears off?

It's during the skill activation only, same with Uzume.

 

[Altrius]

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Uh, hi another question.... how does Len's awakened skill work? I understand that it is a three stage activation that get progressively more powerful. The part I'm confused on is it increasing her attack. Is it a permanent effect? Does her attack increase on skill activation or after the defense from the skills wears off?

Where did you find that Lian skill awaken increase her atk ?
I think from what i remember Lian skill AW is increase party def while gaining instant death atk. nothing about increasing her atk (effect increase on 2nd / 3rd use / forgot the max )
As for Uzume if i remember correctly she only increase party atk....and as you used it 2nd / 3rd time the effect increased.

@Draa
Well Nutaku is having Lian event tomorow, and you know they always have a week break so they are not worried about cost management to lvl up unit and so on.
Which i find this is true all that matter is get the best stat out of the event unit.... of coz without wasting too much SC on it if the event unit is not that great, with exception if you pay for those SC (I'm sticking to my free player rule)

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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I think from what i remember Lian skill AW is increase party def while gaining instant death atk. nothing about increasing her atk
As for Uzume if i remember correctly she only increase party atk....and as you used it 2nd / 3rd time the effect increased.

During the last class-buff, their AW skills were updated
Uzume gains 'faster attack speed'
Lian gains 'chance to instant kill'

 

[Altrius]

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During the last class-buff, their AW skills were updated
Uzume gains 'faster attack speed'
Lian gains 'chance to instant kill'

Just checked the update 2 weeks ago.
Well all it said is both unit aw skill CT/WT shortened....
although i think i remember lian have the instant death atk chance on skill aw, but never heard anything on uzume other than the atk up >.<
O well... the skill AW for these 2 unit was ages ago and i don't have the units... i guess i didn't remember them well (sorry while uzume in my radar as 1 of broken plat unit on the support, lian not in it and more likely i hope we got another rear strategy someday from event *Empire tactician please be rear tactician and event unit* ~highly doubt it~)

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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*Empire tactician please be rear tactician and event unit* ~highly doubt it~

Above is highly possible actually, so it's safe to get your hope up.
I just hope her skill is stackable with Uzumes and is an attack up so I can create more BS stats like Ashurmen.

 

[exkale]

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They've been toying with the idea of increasing skill duration, so it's possible that the Empire Tactician could have an AW passive that increases the duration of all unit's skill. At the same time, it feels unlikely for an event unit to have an ability that good so it's probably reserved for another Black Tactician. 25~50% duration increase would be awesome.

I just wonder what they'll do with the remaining illustrations from the Nico Live Conference. There's plenty remaining that they haven't used yet.

 

[PJFrost]

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So, guys... i've been resetting accounts trying to get a black one while I waited for my charisma to refill on my main account, and I finally got one... And I am not very impressed.

Somebody convince me of how good Sue the vampire hunter is, please? ;3;

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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Somebody convince me of how good Sue the vampire hunter is, please? ;3;

Low tier, skip, next account.

 

[PJFrost]

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Low tier, skip, next account.

*cry*

 

[marcus3708]

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wiki says her final dps is very high thats low tier good dps with slow, dmg + range increase?

 

[Lafate]

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*snip*

Thanks for the info. Mr.Paladin

 

[leo11234]

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Keep it and keep rerolling till you have an account for each black... That's one way to play

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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Thanks for the info. Mr.Paladin

np, refer to me as DP or Draa, either one works.

wiki says her final dps is very high thats low tier good dps with slow, dmg + range increase?

DPS is only decent due to triple attack, but her attack speed is slow compared to Elizabeth with skill.
She's got good numbers, but not enough to be high tier.

Refer to the below with Prince Big Hero Title
Minerva: 1.20 atk/sec
782 ATK x1 - x1.7 burst during skill/30 sec
DPS/30-0 DEF: 57908
DPS/30-300 DEF: 47108

Rachel: 0.97 atk/sec
712 ATK x1 - x1.7 burst during skill/30 sec
DPS/30-0 DEF: 42618
DPS/30-300 DEF: 33889

Elizabeth: 1.03 atk/sec
408 ATK x3 - x1.9 burst during skill/30 sec
DPS/30-0 DEF: 86951
DPS/30-300 DEF: 59141

Snow: 0.67 atk/sec
475 ATK x3 - x1.9 burst + x1.4 range during skill/30 sec
DPS/30-0 DEF: 65848
DPS/30-300 DEF: 47759

What Snow IS good at is above average attack speed per attack outside of skill compared to all of the above. She's great for shredding low defense units, but so is Elizabeth and archers. Also, let's not forget Minerva has instant kill chance along with that 1.2 attack/sec.

Snow and Elizabeth also falls off significantly once the 600 defense point is reached. While Minerva and Rachel suffers a lot less as a result. But we all know that due to the way the unit was designed. Hence I am not holding it against her.
Snow
DPS/30-600 DEF: 29669

But hey, just for the sake of it, let's add Bashira, Nanaly and Leone to the dps comparison.

Bashira: 0.85 atk/sec
529 ATK x1 - x0.9/4 burst/12 sec
DPS/12-0 DEF: 23503
DPS/12-300 DEF: 11263

Nanaly: 0.97 atk/sec
627 ATK x1 - x1.0/5 burst/15 sec
DPS/15-0 DEF: 55193
DPS/15-300 DEF: 33368

Leone: 0.97 atk/sec [Note: This is top tier black rarity in terms of dps.]
662 ATK x1 - x1.0/7 burst/20 sec
DPS/20-0 DEF: 108778
DPS/20-300 DEF: 68038

Just a reminder this is only comparing during the skill duration. Hence Nanaly and Bashira suffered quite a bit in total dps during skill. Not as clean of a comparison as the ones I mentioned above, but Nanaly easily manages even during her short skill duration. Leone is just adding a digit in the numbers. This is how 'broken', broken gets when broken gets broken. And don't forget we have Aisha.

Aisha: 0.53 atk/sec
475 ATK x1 - x3.0/5 target + x3.0 range/15 seconds
DPS/15-0 DEF: 68538
DPS/15-300 DEF: 56613
DPS/15-600 DEF: 44688
And Aisha isn't even supposed to be a dps based unit ~~

In conclusion, black is measured by how broken it is. Not how good it is. Snow is a great unit in the theme of things, but she's placed on low tier because of the above.
It's not her fault, her competition is too strong.

Omake:
Monica: 7.5 atk/sec
625 ATK x1 - x0.5/15 seconds
DPS/15-0 DEF: 42539
Yes, Rachel just owned xD (compared to 42618)

 

[exkale]

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If you don't want to spend weeks rerolling for something better, then she's perfectly fine to use if you're a free player. If it was me, then I would prefer having good Platinum units than trying to get a better Black rarity unit. Unless you're really lucky or have the money to spend, then it's going to be difficult to get something better.

You can play the game without broken Black rarity units, and they can suck out the enjoyment of the game sometimes. I'm glad I didn't go through the re-rolling non-sense because it was fun for me to progress through the game as well as I can and going through the hardships. There are units I wish I had, but they aren't necessary in the end as long as you can clear the mission. The only problem I see this game has at the moment is the lack of an accessible hard tank. Losing Berenice as a tank really hurts new players because they need to get one from the gacha now because she's not available through the serial code anymore.

 

[PJFrost]

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If you don't want to spend weeks rerolling for something better, then she's perfectly fine to use if you're a free player. If it was me, then I would prefer having good Platinum units than trying to get a better Black rarity unit. Unless you're really lucky or have the money to spend, then it's going to be difficult to get something better.

You can play the game without broken Black rarity units, and they can suck out the enjoyment of the game sometimes. I'm glad I didn't go through the re-rolling non-sense because it was fun for me to progress through the game as well as I can and going through the hardships. There are units I wish I had, but they aren't necessary in the end as long as you can clear the mission. The only problem I see this game has at the moment is the lack of an accessible hard tank. Losing Berenice as a tank really hurts new players because they need to get one from the gacha now because she's not available through the serial code anymore.

Well it just so happens that I kept rerolling... Tbh I just wanted to have a second account and I ended up getting the dark fighter cornelia, so I REALLY can't complain I think... (I think she's good? pls instruct me senpais). So for now I'll be leveling this one up too... which is fine by me! I wanted to have something special for the second account, since the first one was very... default, I guesS?

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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Well it just so happens that I kept rerolling... Tbh I just wanted to have a second account and I ended up getting the dark fighter cornelia, so I REALLY can't complain I think... (I think she's good? pls instruct me senpais). So for now I'll be leveling this one up too... which is fine by me! I wanted to have something special for the second account, since the first one was very... default, I guesS?

Toss snow account, use Cornelia Account. She's high tier and will take care of a few roles and trivialize melee.

Specifically, tank, duelist, ace. She can handle all 3 very well.

 

[PJFrost]

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Toss snow account, use Cornelia Account. She's high tier and will take care of a few roles and trivialize melee.

Specifically, tank, duelist, ace. She can handle all 3 very well.

Agreed, problem is... I kept going on that one and my next 3 draws have been silver only.. Which kinda has me disheartened.