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Re: Crisis Point: Extinction - Metroidvania H-game

Hmmm, this seems like it's going to be good.

The sprite lacks 1-2 frames of animation, still good tho'.

Tracking, and it's on my list. :D
 
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Re: Crisis Point: Extinction - Metroidvania H-game

Hmmm, this seems like it's going to be good.

The sprite lacks 1-2 frames of animation, still good tho'.

Tracking, and it's on my list. :D
hm? in the running sprite? there are already 8 frames of animation, can you specify where it needs more so i can smooth out the movement or something? adding more frames to it would be quite a pain after having already added detail animation. glad you like the way it's shaping up anyway though, lol

@Sythis - dunno, maybe. i just don't feel like a straight-up ghost would really fit in with the sci-fi/alien world aesthetic i'm picturing. still, i'll find a way to fit in something that's at least similar to possession.
 

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I agree that her boobs are too big. Please, for the love of god, just give us one game where the girls have normal sized boobs. I know you want to animate them bouncing around, and that it's hard to animate real boobs (that are more 'attached' to the chest), but I'd rather have suboptimal animations than yet another "basketballs in grocery bags"-titted character.

EDIT: I didn't intend for this to sound like I was implying anything negative or disapproving about the animations. I think the artist's animations are excellent, and merely wanted to provide input for the author's benefit. Sorry if it came across as rude.
 
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Re: Crisis Point: Extinction - Metroidvania H-game

I agree that her boobs are too big. Please, for the love of god, just give us one game where the girls have normal sized boobs. I know you want to animate them bouncing around, and that it's hard to animate real boobs (that are more 'attached' to the chest), but I'd rather have suboptimal animations than yet another "basketballs in grocery bags"-titted character.
nope. i'm gonna keep her the way she is, because i like big boobs, and i don't feel like trying to replace all of her animations and design with smaller ones because one or two people don't like larger breasts. if they were basketballs in grocery bags they'd look a hell of a lot shittier than the effort i've gone through to animate them.

also, i'd appreciate a little bit less attitude next time if you're making a suggestion. just because they're not b cups doesn't mean they aren't "normal size", there are plenty of women who have natural boobs a LOT bigger than this girl.
 

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Re: Crisis Point: Extinction - Metroidvania H-game

Honestly, there are more action H games with medium/small breasted characters, so large breasts are hardly overdone.

That aside, do you plan on doing in-between animations? (run start, transition between jumping and falling animation, etc)
 
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Honestly, there are more action H games with medium/small breasted characters, so large breasts are hardly overdone.

That aside, do you plan on doing in-between animations? (run start, transition between jumping and falling animation, etc)
definitely. i'm focusing on the engine and getting everything functional right now, but i want all of the animations to smoothly transition. like you brought up earlier, i'm going to be adding horizontal movement that's not just a static speed later on, and i'll be adding both a start and stop to the running animation, making the jump smoothly transition, adding an actual animation to the idle stance, a landing animation, another landing animation from a tall height, etc. it would be odd for the animations to be smooth but have no transitions.
 

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IF anything her ass is too small.

:p

But I, for one, do actually like her design. She might be a a bit well-endowed, but it isn't big enough to seem over done like a lot of the crazy-sized stuff coming out of anime.
 
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IF anything her ass is too small.

:p

But I, for one, do actually like her design. She might be a a bit well-endowed, but it isn't big enough to seem over done like a lot of the crazy-sized stuff coming out of anime.
exactly. i actually modeled her chest after my girlfriend. the girl in this game is well-endowed, but at a realistic level. you could easily go out onto the street and see girls with a chest about the same size as hers. even the jiggle animation isn't horribly unrealistic, assuming the girl isn't wearing a bra. which she isn't, for sex appeal purposes. this IS an h-game after all.
 

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nope. i'm gonna keep her the way she is, because i like big boobs
Good enough for me.
 

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I know this goes without saying, but as long as you have threesome or gang-up in your bucket list of H-animations to do, I'm sold.
 
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I know this goes without saying, but as long as you have threesome or gang-up in your bucket list of H-animations to do, I'm sold.
oh there will definitely be a threesome/gang bang, don't you worry.

side note - sorry there haven't been many updates, everyone. i'm a bit busy with some other things, and while i have found time to work on the game, it's been mostly behind-the-scenes stuff rather than new sprite work. i'm working on getting her half-clothed variations animated and fully implemented, fixing up the animation pipeline, and programming the aiming/shooting system. most of it is fully done now, so i should have an updated prototype to post within the next day!
 

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i'm working on getting her half-clothed variations animated and fully implemented,
For next time, I'd recommend putting off animating clothing variations until the end. Otherwise, you run the risk of creating a lot more work for yourself if you decide to make changes later.
 

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I'm a little late on this, but as someone who prefers smaller breasts over large ones, I have to say that the art on these is just right. It's not overdone and is in good tastes, so props to you!
With that, you captured the attention of another lurker. Best of luck with the game :)
 
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Re: Crisis Point: Extinction - Metroidvania H-game

For next time, I'd recommend putting off animating clothing variations until the end. Otherwise, you run the risk of creating a lot more work for yourself if you decide to make changes later.
and yet, the animation system i have revolves around having both sets of animations - and by editing the existing sprites to have her partially-unclothed set, i was able to solve a major animation glitch that wouldn't have been noticeable without it.

@nicko - thanks for that. i seriously don't understand why people are treating her breasts like they're the size of an atomic bomb, they're not even close to how ridiculous some games/anime/hentai make their girls look
 

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and yet, the animation system i have revolves around having both sets of animations - and by editing the existing sprites to have her partially-unclothed set, i was able to solve a major animation glitch that wouldn't have been noticeable without it.
Duplicating the originals and changing the hue/saturation, changing the brightness, there are plenty of quick alternatives you can use to to test alternate animations. Making even a minor change can take hours when you have a lot of animations to go through.
 

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nope. i'm gonna keep her the way she is, because i like big boobs, and i don't feel like trying to replace all of her animations and design with smaller ones because one or two people don't like larger breasts. if they were basketballs in grocery bags they'd look a hell of a lot shittier than the effort i've gone through to animate them.

also, i'd appreciate a little bit less attitude next time if you're making a suggestion. just because they're not b cups doesn't mean they aren't "normal size", there are plenty of women who have natural boobs a LOT bigger than this girl.
Apparently I phrased that poorly. I didn't intend for there to be any "attitude", and I apologize if it seemed that way. I also didn't intend to imply that your animations were shitty; they're extraordinarily good. I thought what I wrote was just a bland expression of preference; I like normal-sized boobs, and I think there are multitudes of large-breasted characters in this genre already, so I hope you make a character with normal-sized boobs. Note that I used "hope" there -- I didn't know you were far enough along such that you'd have to remake a bunch of animations to change her bagoogidies. Yeah, if you're several animations in, then it's totally impractical to change something like that. I understand.

Also, lemme clarify what I meant by "normal-sized". I worked in a bra store for a while, and I can tell you from selling thousands of bras (and from being explicitly informed by the corporation, which trained us once every three months) that the average bra size is 34b.

[So after writing that, I looked it up: HOLY SHIT the USA is fat. The average bra size in the USA has shot up from 34b to 34dd in the past decade, attributed almost exclusively to an obesity epidemic.]


@nicko - thanks for that. i seriously don't understand why people are treating her breasts like they're the size of an atomic bomb, they're not even close to how ridiculous some games/anime/hentai make their girls look
They're not. They're definitely big, but they're not absurd or whatever (or "the size of an atomic bomb"? Haha sorry couldn't resist). I was just trying to describe the ridiculous way that a lot of (mostly Japanese) game developers choose to approach choosing tits for characters, where they think size and sex appeal have a positive, linear relationship (which inevitably results in absurd basketballs-in-plastic-bags boobs).
 
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Apparently I phrased that poorly. I didn't intend for there to be any "attitude", and I apologize if it seemed that way. I also didn't intend to imply that your animations were shitty; they're extraordinarily good. I thought what I wrote was just a bland expression of preference; I like normal-sized boobs, and I think there are multitudes of large-breasted characters in this genre already, so I hope you make a character with normal-sized boobs. Note that I used "hope" there -- I didn't know you were far enough along such that you'd have to remake a bunch of animations to change her bagoogidies. Yeah, if you're several animations in, then it's totally impractical to change something like that. I understand.

Also, lemme clarify what I meant by "normal-sized". I worked in a bra store for a while, and I can tell you from selling thousands of bras (and from being explicitly informed by the corporation, which trained us once every three months) that the average bra size is 34b.

[So after writing that, I looked it up: HOLY SHIT the USA is fat. The average bra size in the USA has shot up from 34b to 34dd in the past decade, attributed almost exclusively to an obesity epidemic.]




They're not. They're definitely big, but they're not absurd or whatever (or "the size of an atomic bomb"? Haha sorry couldn't resist). I was just trying to describe the ridiculous way that a lot of (mostly Japanese) game developers choose to approach choosing tits for characters, where they think size and sex appeal have a positive, linear relationship (which inevitably results in absurd basketballs-in-plastic-bags boobs).

believe me, i'm not a fan of ridiculous breast sizes either. anything bigger than, say, a DD gets into the realms of "those should be smaller" for me. but that doesn't change that hers ARE normal. i modeled them after approximately a 38D cup size - which, sure, isn't the average, but it's a completely normal, human size, even for some girls who have thin figures. i'm not gonna base her cup size off of whatever the 'average' US girl has, or any other place in the world for that matter. it doesn't make them abnormal.

also, yes, it would be annoying to change her breast size now, even though it's still early in production - but even if it weren't annoying to, i wouldn't. it's not because i can't, it's because i don't WANT to. her breasts are fine the way they are - i actually made them smaller from her first iteration, they used to be bigger than they are now. i think they're sexy. sorry if not everybody likes them, but it would be unreasonable to try and please everybody.
 

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believe me, i'm not a fan of ridiculous breast sizes either. anything bigger than, say, a DD gets into the realms of "those should be smaller" for me. but that doesn't change that hers ARE normal. i modeled them after approximately a 38D cup size - which, sure, isn't the average, but it's a completely normal, human size, even for some girls who have thin figures. i'm not gonna base her cup size off of whatever the 'average' US girl has, or any other place in the world for that matter. it doesn't make them abnormal.
Abnormal doesn't mean "FREAK". If your sample has 10 numbers between 1-10, and the average is 5, then 6 is abnormal. So is 4. Her boobs are objectively abnormal, as they differ from the standard (which is 34b. Well, actually, if you look at the USA, it's 34dd, so her boobs would be abnormally small haha)

Point is, our disagreement was brought about by our differing usages of the word "normal". No big deal.

i think they're sexy. sorry if not everybody likes them, but it would be unreasonable to try and please everybody.
That's what matters most.

Also, I'd assume waaaaaay more people like them than dislike them. I'm pretty sure that I'm just part of a vocal minority.
 
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Re: Crisis Point: Extinction - Metroidvania H-game

Abnormal doesn't mean "FREAK". If your sample has 10 numbers between 1-10, and the average is 5, then 6 is abnormal. So is 4. Her boobs are objectively abnormal, as they differ from the standard (which is 34b. Well, actually, if you look at the USA, it's 34dd, so her boobs would be abnormally small haha)

Point is, our disagreement was brought about by our differing usages of the word "normal". No big deal.
that's not really accurate, though.. that definition only works if you're assuming "average" is the exact same as "normal", and they are completely different words with different meanings.

"abnormal" is defined as deviating from what is normal, usually in an undesirable way. but having boobs bigger than a 34b is neither undesirable, nor unusual. 34b is not a 'standard' by which every girl's boobs are compared. it's just the most common size. not a standard - not the only 'normal' size - just the most common. whether you intended it that way or not, referring to them as 'abnormal' can and will be taken in a negative light, for good reason. especially with "please, for the love of god, don't do it that way" tagged on to it. see what i'm saying?
 

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[So after writing that, I looked it up: HOLY SHIT the USA is fat. The average bra size in the USA has shot up from 34b to 34dd in the past decade, attributed almost exclusively to an obesity epidemic.]
I thought that in bra sizes, the number was the circumference of the chest, and the letters were the cups? I would have expected the number to increase as well.

That said, there are an enormous number of women who also buy the wrong bra size for themselves, so I wouldn't be surprised.
 
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