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Re: [RJ139133] Virgin protection magic (clothdmg, arousal dmg)

@Yugifan3: To be honest, it comes across as a cynical move designed only to further your popularity. I've already stated that there will be a partial from day 1, minute 1, simply due to the demo patch working on the full game (note: I believe I'm correct in saying that the majority of items in the game are already in the demo - the items DB in the demo is pretty extensive, at nearly 300, and most of them are not in the demo - so I'd suspect that outside of quest items, most of my partial translation is already done). Now, not to be disparaging about your methods, but I'm reasonably certain this is much faster than you can manage - not to mention the fact that you typically wait a few days/weeks for a stable version before touching it.

So, while I obviously can't stop you from doing your own partial, I am left questioning your motives for doing so, and what it is that you intend to actually bring to the table which I'm not already doing. Basically, wouldn't it make more sense to invest effort into a game which won't have a translation available quickly, rather than duplicate effort? Heck, it's not like I'm hostile to collaboration on translations, either (especially if it's just for a quick partial work can then be editted for consistency later).

Hence my comment on it being a cynical move on your part: you'll be able to add this game to your list of partials, and any work that I've done will be completely ignored by anyone looking in the partials thread - which of course, you have power of veto over, being the maintainer of that list.

But that's just my take on things. Like I said, I can't stop you. But without some extra reasoning for why you are doing what you are doing, saying "no hard feelings" isn't gonna take away from the fact that I do think this is at least somewhat insulting - either on my ability to translate, or how you present the situation afterwards.
 
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Re: [RJ139133] Virgin protection magic (clothdmg, arousal dmg)

My motive? Just fun to do. As all my translations has been.
If people wanna use mine or yours, its up to them.
Im not the only person to do double partials for games as ToaruLL said.
 

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Hey, if that's your motive then you could've just said to begin with. That's fine as well.

The problem is when someone says something like "no hard feelings", to me it feels as if the person in question is aware that they are doing something which they know is offensive, and I wonder why they felt the need to say that - having Aspergers syndrome does mean that I have to play social situations without knowing the rules, as it were, and hence I pay attention to cues other people would probably discount, because I genuinely do have to work people out. And that's the reason for my cynical comments.

EDIT: So, some PMs later, and things look like there may have been a string of miscommunications/misinterpretations - probably mainly on my part (obviously can't say from someone elses point of view).
 
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Re: [RJ139133] Virgin protection magic (clothdmg, arousal dmg)

My motive? Just fun to do. As all my translations has been.
If people wanna use mine or yours, its up to them.
Im not the only person to do double partials for games as ToaruLL said.

Obviously his motive is to monopolize the translations, have his services in high demand, and be the only supplier - which he can start charging for! :eek::eek::eek:

/s in case you needed it
 

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Obviously his motive is to monopolize the translations, have his services in high demand, and be the only supplier - which he can start charging for! :eek::eek::eek:

/s in case you needed it
Damn it! You got me all figured out! You must be silenc- i mean...
Hi everybody! ^_^ v
 

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Re: [RJ139133] Virgin protection magic (clothdmg, arousal dmg)

So, moving on from all the confusion/recrimination/whatever that was, I present interesting info to salivate over. Specifically , which states that the main game is estimated to be 8 times the size of the demo. Personally, I was expecting around 5 times (based on what I knew about the games structure etc), so that's 60% bigger than I thought it would be. Although I'd also point out as well, stating that quite a lot of it is random meaningless stuff in sex scenes.

Also, twitter isn't very good at working out conversations.
 

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What.... Kind of glad I missed all that, but I think I'd use habisain's translation even if there are two of them. There is a need for a guide/tips compilation, judging how many questions there are based on just the demo and Ch. 1. Any takers?

And sounds great that the rest of the game is significantly bigger. Chapter 1 was maybe a little small...
 

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Re: [RJ139133] Virgin protection magic (clothdmg, arousal dmg)

Well, if it helps on trying to get hints etc, my current plan of attack for the translation is as follows (although I'm fairly certain that there'll be a lot of discussion around the game, and possibly one of Etigoya's - or maybe someone else - improbably quick walkthroughs):

Day 1: Fix/Mitigate any issues with regard to conflicting assets in my demo translation. Also, try to update the translation so it is a full partial translation (i.e. translates items etc not in the demo version) - although this may get delayed, depending on how many there are. My timezone isn't really advantageous for this, either.
After I complete the game: Translate all text for the Familiar command - should help people navigate the game. Possibly also translate all remaining choices as well (although not necessarily the questions).
Afterwards: Focus on translating the main game dialogue first, with H-scenes lower priority.

I'm also hoping that I'll have a simplified 'non-translator' version of RPGMaker Trans ready by the the time this game comes out, with some neat features (like not unpacking the game archive/patching in place), but that's an entirely different kettle of fish really.
 
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Re: [RJ139133] Virgin protection magic (clothdmg, arousal dmg)

*Sneaks by the topic*
Hello...ive had my eyes on this game for some time now, i can put together a partial once the game comes out.
I know I'm hardly in any position to make requests, but - Will you also release your translation in a form that applies on top of the full game,
that is, where the translation patch requires a full game to be present first?
Judging by your existing list, I'm cautiously hopeful, but I don't know your tools.

I figure we have the rare opportunity here where a japanese dev may actually be happy to have an english fan community for their game,
so I'd say we should do our best to make them not regret that.
Of course, knowing this forum there will be a download link somewhere pretty quickly, we can hardly stop that -
but at least if the translation patch[es] don't come with Free Piracy, we can promote those without feeling bad about it.
And I know there's a very quiet subgroup on here that will buy the game, so I do genuinely believe this discussion is helping the dev.
Though I for one will probably count as a jp download, not eng - my card works on both sites,
and at this point it's just easier to buy stuff on jp by default and only switch to eng when there's a translation only available there...

Heck, for all we know saerothonc might be lurking in this thread right now.
In which case: Hi! Love your work!
 

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Re: [RJ139133] Virgin protection magic (clothdmg, arousal dmg)

Yar Crazy!
Joke aside, every partial (unless stated ) only contains the Data folder,
not the actual game.
Thus, how you get the game is not my business. :rolleyes:

@habisain - What will you do? Just do a Partial or full translation?
@Byzantine2014 - Fine by me. You still get a cookie. ;)
 
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Re: [RJ139133] Virgin protection magic (clothdmg, arousal dmg)

@Yugifan: Uh, both? Is that an option?

Basically, RPGMaker Trans is really good at incremental work, regardless of what is being incremented - the game or the patch. So after making sure that there is no issues with my replacing assets, my first priority will be to advance my initial translation patch so that it covers all the bases of what you call a partial patch, which will then be released (although, because the items DB appeared fairly complete in the demo version, I suspect that I'm pretty close to being done on that front already - although I do need to edit what I already have). However, this partial will also contain the portions from the demo which are already translated - which goes as far as a good chunk of Chapter 2.

After this partial translation (which will also contain portions that are completely translated) is released, which should be pretty prompt after the game (depending on how much work is required/when in the week the game is released), I'll focus on translating the rest of the game. I'd anticipate an official release once all the non-H-event dialogue is done (for those who just want to play the game), and then a final full translation. If there's demand for interim releases as well (such as chapter-by-chapter releases), I may look into doing that.

Also, to further complicate matters, I'll also point out that between releases, anyone should be able to go to the Assembla page and use a Mercurial client to grab a copy of the current, bleeding edge translation, provided they don't mind rough edges. Well, theoretically. Assembla is a pretty crappy place to host stuff, but they're also the only version control host I could find where an H-game translation wouldn't be a blatant violation of the ToS. So I'm not sure if this would work, although if it doesn't work for someone I'll try to make it work.

So the take-home message: Basically, there will be multiple released versions of my patch, which translate different amounts of things, and due to open development, anyone should be able to grab a bleeding edge version whenever they feel like it.

Also, as an aside, when Searothonc found my patch, they did mention specifically that the patch format being author-friendly was a consideration in their approval. I'm not entirely certain on which feature of the patch format was the reason for this, or if it was more to do with me stamping "Support the author - buy this game" on my translation in multiple locations, but it's a thing that might be worth considering before releasing any other patch.
 
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Re: [RJ139133] Virgin protection magic (clothdmg, arousal dmg)

So then, Searothonc now has a website for the game. It is simultaneously impressive and motion-sickness inducing.

Link:

It's worth checking out, I think. I'm not certain that there's anything hugely important on there which is new, but unlike a lot of other H-game websites this one seems to actually have accessibility in it; there's no (or at least limited) image text, and so if you want to read it through Google Translate etc, you can.
 
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Praying that this guy hasn't taken lessons from Blizzard in terms of "Coming Soon" announcements.
 

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I doubt it. The release date on DLSite has also changed to be this month, so it looks likely that's what'll happen.
 

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Re: [RJ139133] Virgin protection magic (clothdmg, arousal dmg)

So then, Searothonc now has a website for the game. It is simultaneously impressive and motion-sickness inducing.
Whoa, you weren't kidding - I actually started to feel slightly nauseous when watching those transitions. :eek:

Still, it coming out soon is great news. All signs point towards it being a masterpiece. :D
 

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Re: [RJ139133] Virgin protection magic (clothdmg, arousal dmg)

Lol, saw that website with facebook likes, twitter follow/tweet and google plus follow. I could not bring myself to do so as all my friends will know that im playing those sort of games in my free time.
 

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Its not your friends you have to worry about, its your employers and anyone else who randomly check your facebook :p


Really looking forward to this game coming out this month tho :p
 

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really looking forward have the game
 

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really looking forward have the game
+1

This is probably the most I've looked forward to a H-game ever. It actually has good gameplay, good H-scenes, and even has translations already! (Thanks habisain!)
 

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Re: [RJ139133] Virgin protection magic (clothdmg, arousal dmg)

I think a new demo has been uploaded. Dlsite page shows version 1.0.
 
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