(Nutaku) PeroPero Seduction

[justin iz here]

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In the jp version, you also get keys when you buy gacha tickets (thus it would make sense for cases to drop more than keys), but yet again they've fooled around with how this version works for who-knows-what reason.

I think they are using our version as a testing ground for future changes to the JP version, I swear I do. There is no real answer for them to be changing so much random stuff outside of that.

 

[szarala]

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I think they are using our version as a testing ground for future changes to the JP version, I swear I do. There is no real answer for them to be changing so much random stuff outside of that.

..see, I'd buy that if any of the changes actually made sense. For example, say you wanted to remove the keys from the shop.. you'd balance that by evening up the drop rate between cases and keys.

A lot of the changes I keep seeing between this and Elite Guard seem to be either unintentional screwups, or decisions made by someone in accounting with no grasp on game mechanics.

 

[Rawr1125]

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What about the possibility that the very very first event like this on DMM was exactly the same way? I can't imagine they'd have much reason to intentionally change something that could potentially increase the income they generate, since more pink keys = more incentive to use peronamin(which newer players won't have a lot of) to get more boxes. Also R gacha can only be bought with points for silver keys.

If they're just using the old code from the original events, chances are that they've made various changes as they held more and more events.

 

[justin iz here]

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What about the possibility that the very very first event like this on DMM was exactly the same way? I can't imagine they'd have much reason to intentionally change something that could potentially increase the income they generate, since more pink keys = more incentive to use peronamin(which newer players won't have a lot of) to get more boxes. Also R gacha can only be bought with points for silver keys.

If they're just using the old code from the original events, chances are that they've made various changes as they held more and more events.

I don't think it use to be like this, people who play JP pero have never mentioned the events being like this in the past.

 

[Rawr1125]

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I don't think it use to be like this, people who play JP pero have never mentioned the events being like this in the past.

People who play jp pero also mentioned they weren't playing when the game first launched.

 

[justin iz here]

Re: (Nutaku) PeroPero Seduction

Fair point, I still don't think they would use old event code when if they were forced to change it people didn't like it.

 

[Ertx]

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Fair point, I still don't think they would use old event code when if they were forced to change it people didn't like it.

They definitely used the first elite guard event from the JP version. That one had no SEG and, apparently, 8.7 million hp bosses past level 100.

 

[Rawr1125]

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Fair point, I still don't think they would use old event code when if they were forced to change it people didn't like it.

That would depend on how they're giving us content. If we're using the original game code, then there's the possibility of newer code not working properly because of changes made as the game progressed. Likewise, if we're using a newer version of the game with old events, then there's possible conflicts with how things used to be and the current game. Then there's also a possibility that the code simply broke being localized to us. Sorta like how you need app locale or to change your system locale just to run jp rpg maker games.


Of course I'm not saying this is the case in this situation, but I'd at least like to give them the benefit of the doubt before accusing them of being greedy or fucking up every event. If it is a mistake, then it'll be fixed before the event ends hopefully.

 

[ragm54]

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This latest event is just weird. I mean what is the point of getting WAY more Attache Cases then keys? This simply means that there are more Cases than Keys in play, therefore a lot of Attach Cases will be just wasted. Unless I'm missing something.

Also, what is the radar good for?

More cases than keys is normal, it happens in the DMM.com version. What is not normal is the fact that you don't get pink keys by buying stuff with Pero in the shop, so that's another ``good´´ change Nutaku has introduced.

 

[szarala]

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4 expired pink cases so far q.q

..well, maybe more.. noticing some expired ones falling off the list

 

[Howie]

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It's normal to get many more cases than keys, but how do you explain not being able to buy keys besides gold ones in the store? It's just disheartening seeing a full page top-to-bottom of pink cases that likely won't be opened. Pink cases wouldn't last three minutes in the JP version.

If it is a mistake, then it'll be fixed before the event ends hopefully.

I'd like to remind you of how many hopes we've all had shattered by the EN version of this game so far.

 

[Rawr1125]

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I'd like to remind you of how many hopes we've all had shattered by the EN version of this game so far.

Luckily my hope wasn't shattered since I got the card last event even with my 1.2x sed multiplier. Maybe that's why I can still be optimistic.

 

[JimmyBob100]

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How are people already getting tens of thousands of bouquets? They seem rare, I only get a couple hundred bouquets at best from a full 300 stamina bar.

 

[szarala]

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Luckily my hope wasn't shattered since I got the card last event even with my 1.2x sed multiplier. Maybe that's why I can still be optimistic.

You were spoonfed kills by 3 of the top 5 in a zero-sum situation. Great for you and maybe a couple of other folks who did the same.. not so much for the 99% of other people who had zero chance, but probably would have otherwise if the event were working properly.

How are people already getting tens of thousands of bouquets? They seem rare, I only get a couple hundred bouquets at best from a full 300 stamina bar.

Slayer cards. 10x multiplier for all of them.

 

[The Overgoat]

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Kicked out all of the inactives, so I have 7 empty spaces. I'm a regular free player (well, mostly, occasionally I drop 5 bucks or so on it) with a 346,550 SED at the moment. ID is in my signature below.

 

[Rawr1125]

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You were spoonfed kills by 3 of the top 5 in a zero-sum situation. Great for you and maybe a couple of other folks who did the same.. not so much for the 99% of other people who had zero chance, but probably would have otherwise if the event were working properly.

More like 1 and a half, since Mystica wasn't using puddings anymore after they got 150. Not sure who the 3rd person you're talking about though, unless you mean Kikajima who killed about 10 bosses for me. I think Stickygel killed around 15+ for me though if you're talking about him being the 3rd person, but he didn't even get to 150 count. Wanna say Cosmos got around 8-9 of them as well. Around 10 or so I killed myself/finished off weakened bosses that other players had or gave to me. Had some other people kill a few as well.

Really depended on the time I spawned also though, since I'd have 12-15 people attacking public bosses at the good times. Then 1-3 at REALLY bad times. Even with all the help I had, I lost around 30-40 SEGs that I didn't spawn because of too high level, or just didn't die in time.

I have to admit 20+ hours of doing nothing but spamming EG wheel and elixiring bosses isn't that fun either. I'm not even 100% sure it was worth the effort to be honest.

 

[JimmyBob100]

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Slayer cards. 10x multiplier for all of them.

If my experience with bouquet rates so far is indicative of the event in general, the limited SR at 50k bouquet might be another 'only the top 1% will get it' situation.

 

[szarala]

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If my experience with bouquet rates so far is indicative of the event in general, the limited SR at 50k bouquet might be another 'only the top 1% will get it' situation.

I posted earlier you have to average about 3600 a day to get to 50k. I'm currently at 4814 with only the two "free" slayers (1.44x), but I'm also the second highest level (58) with a buttload of peromins.

Uuuuugh, this fuggin squirrel.. well, at least I discovered candy can hit 4 digits

 

[Rawr1125]

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Uuuuugh, this fuggin squirrel.. well, at least I discovered candy can hit 4 digits

So time for that new goal of 5 digits?

 

[JimmyBob100]

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I posted earlier you have to average about 3600 a day to get to 50k. I'm currently at 4814 with only the two "free" slayers (1.44x), but I'm also the second highest level (58) with a buttload of peromins.

Uuuuugh, this fuggin squirrel.. well, at least I discovered candy can hit 4 digits

Like I mentioned earlier, bouquet seem super rare. I'm only at ~1000 after a full day's stamina use.