(Nutaku) PeroPero Seduction

[justin iz here]

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I'd imagine all of those were done already for release with how soon the event came out. I'm certain they'll still still be edited but my hope is they'll at least fix the eyes (or stop editing them in the first place)

The edits were done recently because this is the 2nd edit to Noa (which is worse then the first edit

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). They had no reason to have two separate edits for one character. I'm fucking amazed they managed to make a WORSE edit then what they did the first time. I keep hoping this is some super elaborate troll by Nutaku, they would have gotten everyone so fucking good.

Also to add on something else

Funny thing is, several of the problems (impossible to know how many for sure) are the fault of DMM to begin with.

Uhh no what. DMM has nothing to do with Nutaku lagging, the servers are completely different. DMM also has no control over what goes into the games, that is completely up to Nutaku. Some devs hold more power over their games on Nutaku like the Aigis devs who get the final say in everything while other devs like the Osawari ones just dump it to Nutaku and forget it exist.

You can tell by the quality of edits in Aigis (which while unneeded are high quality edits) vs Osawari and Pero which Nutaku were the ones in control of and look like complete shit.

 

[vestige]

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I'd imagine all of those were done already for release with how soon the event came out. I'm certain they'll still still be edited but my hope is they'll at least fix the eyes (or stop editing them in the first place)

Doesn't matter if you play with the eyes when you don't edit the face, head and human proportions. The "Anime" style not the best anatomy. Disproportion, rough parts of the body, the head is larger than normal. BUT, All in all, it can be a good visual. Until you try to edit just one thing.
It's not enough to "fix" the eyes because it ruins the overall picture. I tested it and for the minimal acceptance it was necessary to edit the head size, shape, the distance from the neck and many little thing. Who made those pictures was an amateur, and the actual edits are the same. Hell, I even see they don't make the breasts bigger, they stretch the original and with this it's grotesque.

 

[ragm54]

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I'd imagine all of those were done already for release with how soon the event came out. I'm certain they'll still still be edited but my hope is they'll at least fix the eyes (or stop editing them in the first place)

Fix? Nutaku?! Hahahahahahaha!!









No.

 

[szarala]

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There is one area Nutaku has complete control over, and thus they do not get a pass on: communication.

 

[justin iz here]

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There is one area Nutaku has complete control over, and thus they do not get a pass on: communication.

They are too busy having fun in the money pit. Why talk to us plebs when they can stay silent and keep making dosh.

 

[Ertx]

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The edits were done recently because this is the 2nd edit to Noa (which is worse then the first edit

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). They had no reason to have two separate edits for one character. I'm fucking amazed they managed to make a WORSE edit then what they did the first time. I keep hoping this is some super elaborate troll by Nutaku, they would have gotten everyone so fucking good.

Also to add on something else



Uhh no what. DMM has nothing to do with Nutaku lagging, the servers are completely different. DMM also has no control over what goes into the games, that is completely up to Nutaku. Some devs hold more power over their games on Nutaku like the Aigis devs who get the final say in everything while other devs like the Osawari ones just dump it to Nutaku and forget it exist.

You can tell by the quality of edits in Aigis (which while unneeded are high quality edits) vs Osawari and Pero which Nutaku were the ones in control of and look like complete shit.

Didn't notice the second edit on Noa. That's pretty bad and I stand corrected there.

For your second point, there's been no indication that Nutaku does anything on the development side. In fact just the opposite has been indicated. Nutaku has made it clear they have pretty much zero control over Aigis. The only statement to the contrary with PPS is that they have said they have 'more say', which is far from them being the ones in control.

As for the servers, I assumed that the games themselves run off DMM servers since DMM is in charge of development. Would kind of lend itself to why PPS is lagging today and yesterday with no lag on any of the other games and Nutaku saying to come back the next day.

There is one area Nutaku has complete control over, and thus they do not get a pass on: communication.

Absolutely. I'm all for assigning blame when and where it's due, and this has been my major point of contention with Nutaku so far.

 

[Shoradin]

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Remember when I said I asked about the Support EP and said I'd let you guys know when I got a response? I finally got a response back from them.

Hello Pero Users!

We are currently addressing all concerns with the current Event. Any issues will be resolved soon. We are sorry for the inconvenience.

Thank you for supporting Nutaku!

Sounds like they got a fair number of complaints and mass-replied to them.

 

[justin iz here]

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The real question now is will they even fix it with enough time left to get the SR...If they do fix it the right thing to do would be to extend the event a day or two but lolnutaku.

 

[justin iz here]

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For your second point, there's been no indication that Nutaku does anything on the development side.

It's all Nutaku saying "yeah we don't want lolis keep em out". They have gone on record saying they have had to delay events so they could have art edited in house to be "less loli". I did believe the biller stuff they were spewing at first but the recent Osawari edits have pretty much exposed the lies about being forced to change them.

No biller is going to make you edit out a teddy bear on a character that was already edited once and passed certification (is that the correct word here?). You could make the argument they were trying to "improve" it but if that is what they call an improvement Jesus fuck.

 

[vestige]

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No biller is going to make you edit out a teddy bear on a character that was already edited once and passed certification (is that the correct word here?). You could make the argument they were trying to "improve" it but if that is what they call an improvement Jesus fuck.

It's not a teddy bear, it's a tiger. And look how childish, if someone hold a stuffed tiger:

Spoiler

 

[Ertx]

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It's all Nutaku saying "yeah we don't want lolis keep em out". They have gone on record saying they have had to delay events so they could have art edited in house to be "less loli". I did believe the biller stuff they were spewing at first but the recent Osawari edits have pretty much exposed the lies about being forced to change them.

No biller is going to make you edit out a teddy bear on a character that was already edited once and passed certification (is that the correct word here?). You could make the argument they were trying to "improve" it but if that is what they call an improvement Jesus fuck.

I should clarify, by development I meant the way the events and delays and lag have been handled.

I get that the loli editing has been due to Nutaku asking for it, and whether it's a billing issue or not, lolis are still on the line in terms of legality or morality in the west so I get the desire to proactively try to eliminate problems there. But the edits have been veeeery inconsistent. In LoV they just slap bigger breasts on and call it a day. Aigis has been excluding all the loli characters entirely, and the event that came out today suddenly has an unedited loli-ish character in it. Some of the PPS cards I thought would've been edited have gone through and then with Osawari, things have been taken out that don't really seem necessary to have touched at all.

 

[xMazax]

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Fuck, i hate this. One time that i got lucky and pull SR Slayer, event is this shitty. I was hitting SEG with full force and after loading while i got disconnect and someone else killed it...

 

[Rawr1125]

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WE FINALLY GOT A GAME UPDATE. THE CLOCK IS FIXED AND NO LONGER TO THE LEFT. Anyone notice anything else?

 

[justin iz here]

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I should clarify, by development I meant the way the events and delays and lag have been handled.

I get that the loli editing has been due to Nutaku asking for it, and whether it's a billing issue or not, lolis are still on the line in terms of legality or morality in the west so I get the desire to proactively try to eliminate problems there. But the edits have been veeeery inconsistent. In LoV they just slap bigger breasts on and call it a day. Aigis has been excluding all the loli characters entirely, and the event that came out today suddenly has an unedited loli-ish character in it. Some of the PPS cards I thought would've been edited have gone through and then with Osawari, things have been taken out that don't really seem necessary to have touched at all.

I know why the Aigis characters are getting excluded, mostly because the Aigis devs plan is anything that needs major edits just gets excluded. For everything else I just assume is being handled by separate artist Nutaku has contracted to work on the game. It would make sense considering in Pero it looks like all the edits are done by the same guy, same with Osawari. I think Nutaku gives them a baseline of "make it look less loli" and it's up to the artist to go from there. Nutaku seems to just blindly accept whatever they hand them too, the Osawari art could not have been quality checked by Nutaku.

 

[szarala]

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WE FINALLY GOT A GAME UPDATE. THE CLOCK IS FIXED AND NO LONGER TO THE LEFT. Anyone notice anything else?

The clock is done by the web team, not any of the game devs, and was fixed for me (Chrome) since yesterday morning.

 

[justin iz here]

Re: (Nutaku) PeroPero Seduction

WE FINALLY GOT A GAME UPDATE. THE CLOCK IS FIXED AND NO LONGER TO THE LEFT. Anyone notice anything else?

Do we get support credit now?

Not much else matters ;_;

 

[Rawr1125]

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The clock is done by the web team, not any of the game devs, and was fixed for me (Chrome) since yesterday morning.

Damn guess I never got the update until today because of browser cache.

 

[Sisulart]

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Ok i had enough of that bug riddled mess and p2w changes, quit PPS and will remove everyone from my list.

 

[justin iz here]

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Ok i had enough of that bug riddled mess and p2w changes, quit PPS and will remove everyone from my list.

I'm seeing a lot of this going around lately over Nutakus games. I for one feel it's quite deserved.

 

[szarala]

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..aaaaand nope, I'm still borked.