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Title: Dungeon and Bride
Release date: TBA

Translations (partial) by Xebit with contributions from ulmfuser3:
(demos differ from each other, so all are listed here)
Trial:
Trial:
Trial:
Latest Trial: (info here)
All demos are different, the last one is the latest one.

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Blog:
Other works by this author: Leane 1, Leane 2, Swimming Idol, Winter Scarf
Similar F95 thread

Description: Strategy/tactical/simulation/VN/dungeon crawler with fighting with enemy and conquering (and loosing) girl's heart and body. Main goal seems to be to marry choosen heroine. Story is unknown yet.
Character creation: Some characters are fixed. Player is able to create other (female only?) characters with some options like name, hair color, occupation, race (5 selected from, human and elf included).

Strategic map: various maps, events can happen here too. Ability to buy items (with identifying and removing curse too) and take quests. Items can be broken. Probably an item's weight is important.

Dungeon with crawling/fight: 6-person party. Random monster fighting. Duel system: There are other teams. Some of them are hostile. Losing or winning a duel battle does not render anyone dead. There are NTR/probably netori results of the battle. Eventually, the player may choose story/gameplay results not being erotic (like forcing the enemy team to not appear for 180 days). Losing the battle may lead to a female companion's kidnapping. Player may (feel to) be forced to duel again to re-take the girl.

Hotel/inn character per room distribution. Each room has a fixed capacity and determines who stays in which room. You cannot check-in until you have decided on a room for everyone. There are various inns depending on the town, and each has a different layout. Also, please note that other guests may hold the room first, so it may not always be possible to stay in the desired room. If you can check in safely, you will be in night conversation mode. Here you can get along with your heroine. (Let's keep an eye on the trends of other male members)

Fetishes: NTR (probably very hard to avoid), harem, possibly netori, possibly violation, netorase

Controls: mouse and keyboard.

More info, news and screenshots on project's webpage: (consider using Google Translate)
 
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One thing that I think would be interesting, albeit unlikely given the focus on NTR, is for male party member and female member to pair up WITHOUT it being NTR.

Like, instead of any male party members being potential risk of backstabbing NTR, some of the less evil ones would just come straight to you and confess they like Girl A.
And if you're not pursuing Girl A as romantic interest, you'll have the option of helping the guy out with wooing her.
If they get together, maybe this guy will become super loyal to you or maybe the two of them will retire, but occasionally send you gifts as thanks.

Though if you are also wooing Girl A, the guy will either declare he'll try to go after her (a love rival) or apologize about it and say after saying it, he'll manage to keep it hidden from her (a bro)
Then back to you having the option of helping him or competing with him.

Also, one thing to note on the Inn system is that it seems other parties can also stay there. In one of the image we see the guy from a rival group in a room, but there's a total of 7 characters shown while the party limit is 6.
 
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Looks promising. I take it there's no trial yet?
Still early development.

Also, one thing to note on the Inn system is that it seems other parties can also stay there. In one of the image we see the guy from a rival group in a room, but there's a total of 7 characters shown while the party limit is 6.
Do you reckon like a reserve member? Like you have to juggle who you bring or she gets taken?
 

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I am curious to see how large the overall map will be and how deep each dungeon is. The author has expanded the scope in each game he's made, so I am unsure how far he will go this time.

By the way, the author said on his blog that there won't be another update until the start of January.

Here is the blog link -
 

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oh so this is the meme ntr game that 4chan was spamming on 2d hentai video game general.hope it can be avoided,i prefer alternate routes.
 

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oh so this is the meme ntr game that 4chan was spamming on 2d hentai video game general.hope it can be avoided,i prefer alternate routes.
Dev has generally had regular routes in the game as well so no need to worry about that angle.
 
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Quote from similar thread from F95 (by DawnCry):

Creating a bit of discussion, first of all I would like to talk about what type of NTR games the creator make:

-Usually the MC can only get one girl but enemy characters can create a harem or at least have multiple women.
-If you fully clear a girl she can't get NTR by the enemy. Basically after you have completed your relationship you have nothing to worry.
-They don't add incest into their games, if you have a sister character she won't be interested in you sexually, but this happens to the rival characters too.
-If the girl gets taken away you can expect a time before she gets fucked so that you can recover her as a virgin if you want

Talking about NTR in this game, do I find it hard to avoid? the answer is not truly:

-Related to the team the only "problem" that you have is that you need to assign the characters into rooms, so unless it adds something more it should be fairly easy to protect your girlfriend or the girl you want to marry from the other male characters.
-Related to rival teams they can ask for different things, not only team members, they may ask for gold, equipment or even levels.

Normal mobs give a game over from what I read and characters can die.

It is also possible that following their previous games we have difficulty levels. From Iron to black if I remember right (iron, bronce, silver, gold, platinum and black), being iron the easiest one and black the hardest one, my personal guess would be that it will influence the probability to find hostile enemy teams, their levels and increase the chance for them to want a girl from your team.

But well, I believe that the inn system needs a few improvements for it to be a bit of a challenge, rather than just putting people in a few rooms. A few examples:

-Girls ignoring your distribution and directly assigning herself if low loyalty
-Chance for the other male characters to convince a girl to share room based on loyalty
-Acts outside the inn that can influence it's distribution
-Refusal from other male characters to sleep in a solo room.

If you can directly assign people to each room it will be really easy to protect the girl that you want to romance.

On another point, I would like that our MC can finally have a harem, I believe it's fair.
 

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Quote from similar thread from F95 (by DawnCry):
Link?

also, the dev diary did mention that some room pairings happen automatically or by event so it might be possible to accidentally trip some events like with Leane 1.

Also a note, they don't do direct incest. They've done pseudo-incest before with characters that have a brother-sister relationship with each other but aren't related.
 

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Link?

also, the dev diary did mention that some room pairings happen automatically or by event so it might be possible to accidentally trip some events like with Leane 1.

Also a note, they don't do direct incest. They've done pseudo-incest before with characters that have a brother-sister relationship with each other but aren't related.
That's good, if some room pairings happen automatically it gives a bit of a challenge. Personally when I played Leane of legitimate crown I found the game too easy, things that I would have liked:

-Being invaded by the caves at the south part of the territory and being attacked by the north through unit incursions by the sea, it would have made me divide forces and make the situation harder to defend.
-Hippia being able to use strategies to directly capture a female general.
-Point of no return for all female generals.
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I kind of hope this game gives quite a challenge, even more being a RPG.
 

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That's good, if some room pairings happen automatically it gives a bit of a challenge. Personally when I played Leane of legitimate crown I found the game too easy, things that I would have liked:

-Being invaded by the caves at the south part of the territory and being attacked by the north through unit incursions by the sea, it would have made me divide forces and make the situation harder to defend.
-Hippia being able to use strategies to directly capture a female general.
-Point of no return for all female generals.
...

I kind of hope this game gives quite a challenge, even more being a RPG.
Agreed. That game was good but it really felt like it didn't live up to it's full potential. I also felt like it was to easy to get the girls back after they were captured. There was a mechanic where enemies would take the captured girls away from the frontline cities, but it triggered extremely rarely. They also didn't put much if any effort into repairing their jail structure, so it was pretty easy to get them back with spy moves as long as they were in a frontline city.

On the strategy side of things, the map design was too simple. Might have been interesting if there were more ways the enemies could invade your side (like the previously mentioned southern cave), or just alternate maps for the sake of replayability.

That said, it was still a good game, and I'd rather see how this new game is going to turn out, than worry about the previous one. Love this Developers art, and the NTR is done in a way that I actually like, most of the time I can't stand NTR.
 

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oh so this is the meme ntr game that 4chan was spamming on 2d hentai video game general.hope it can be avoided,i prefer alternate routes.
What others failed to mention is that the vanilla romance is scarce and wholly unsatisfying, especially once you've seen what your rivals do to the girls. And occasionally, romancing a girl is a pre-requisite to be NTR'd harder.

Speaking from my experience with both Leane games and assuming the trend will remain the same in this game, you'd have to be some degree of okay with NTR in order to have a satisfying experience with the game. Avoiding the NTR in its entirety might be possible if you're good enough, but in that case it's likely you'll get a rather dry experience that might be fine as a game but will be sorely lacking as porn.
 

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What others failed to mention is that the vanilla romance is scarce and wholly unsatisfying, especially once you've seen what your rivals do to the girls. And occasionally, romancing a girl is a pre-requisite to be NTR'd harder.

Speaking from my experience with both Leane games and assuming the trend will remain the same in this game, you'd have to be some degree of okay with NTR in order to have a satisfying experience with the game. Avoiding the NTR in its entirety might be possible if you're good enough, but in that case it's likely you'll get a rather dry experience that might be fine as a game but will be sorely lacking as porn.
That's subjective. I actually thought the vanilla paths were usually pretty cute. It's true they don't have as many sex scenes as the NTR routes, but I still like the vanilla routes by themselves. My favorite routes from Leane 2 were Nora and Marion.
 

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That's subjective. I actually thought the vanilla paths were usually pretty cute. It's true they don't have as many sex scenes as the NTR routes, but I still like the vanilla routes by themselves. My favorite routes from Leane 2 were Nora and Marion.
Fair enough. Still, even if you're perfectly okay with what's offered in terms of vanilla paths, it remains that if you make a "perfect" playthrough and avoid most of the NTR while romancing the single heroine you're allowed to romance per playthrough, by the end of the game you'll have anything between twelve to twenty four hours of playing and you'll have seen three to four h-scenes, one of which is unavoidable NTR, out of nearly a hundred total scenes the game has to offer. I can't help but think that, as porn, that's a rather poor reward for the time and effort invested.
 

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Fair enough. Still, even if you're perfectly okay with what's offered in terms of vanilla paths, it remains that if you make a "perfect" playthrough and avoid most of the NTR while romancing the single heroine you're allowed to romance per playthrough, by the end of the game you'll have anything between twelve to twenty four hours of playing and you'll have seen three to four h-scenes, one of which is unavoidable NTR, out of nearly a hundred total scenes the game has to offer. I can't help but think that, as porn, that's a rather poor reward for the time and effort invested.
That is also a fair point to you. There is no denying that Makura markets their games as primarily NTR games as every single one of them has been that and one was even mandatory NTR. I just am really used to playing long Vanilla VNs where the only sex scene happens at the end anyways and the rest is cute fluff and build-up, so that is my expectation for what to see in vanilla routes. I also find Leane enjoyable because of the strategy-rpg elements (same thing with Sengoku Rance even though I don't like Rance), as that is really fun for me even if it is easy. In short, the characters + the gameplay are my main draw for the two Leane games and the porn is just a cherry on the top as I don't mind these types of NTR or Vanilla scenes. I know that sounds weird to say about a hentai game but it's true. Leane 1 and 2 are fun on their own for me, while most hentai games are grinds or get boring after a while.

Also, there is no mandatory NTR. I assume you are referring to the part where the King takes on your highest Love Gauge companion as a lover while you are fighting at the bridge. That can be avoided by either maxing the friendship/loyalty meter to 100 before fighting the other king, or by starting NG+ and skipping the first arc. That doesn't really change your point. I just thought you would want to know. If the meter is maxed, you get an option to avoid it after the npc explains the succession system and instead you unlock a CG of the king having sex with one of the blue-haired generic concubines.
 
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That is also a fair point to you. There is no denying that Makura markets their games as primarily NTR games as every single one of them has been that and one was even mandatory NTR. I just am really used to playing long Vanilla VNs where the only sex scene happens at the end anyways and the rest is cute fluff and build-up, so that is my expectation for what to see in vanilla routes. I also find Leane enjoyable because of the strategy-rpg elements (same thing with Sengoku Rance even though I don't like Rance), as that is really fun for me even if it is easy. In short, the characters + the gameplay are my main draw for the two Leane games and the porn is just a cherry on the top as I don't mind these types of NTR or Vanilla scenes. I know that sounds weird to say about a hentai game but it's true. Leane 1 and 2 are fun on their own for me, while most hentai games are grinds or get boring after a while.

Also, there is no mandatory NTR. I assume you are referring to the part where the King takes on your highest Love Gauge companion as a lover while you are fighting at the bridge. That can be avoided by either maxing the friendship/loyalty meter to 100 before fighting the other king, or by starting NG+ and skipping the first arc. That doesn't really change your point. I just thought you would want to know. If the meter is maxed, you get an option to avoid it after the npc explains the succession system and instead you unlock a CG of the king having sex with one of the blue-haired generic concubines.
Ah, I guess we have different approaches in regards to porn games. Nowadays VNs tend to bore me while these increasingly depraved indie games where you can't take two steps without something jumping you and trying to rape everything in your party are becoming quite more attractive to me. And I take entertaining gameplays as a given, otherwise it's just another VN as far as I'm concerned. I guess I'm quite demanding when it comes to porn games... :p

And I'd forgotten that that scene was now made avoidable. In previous versions of the game it was 100% unavoidable.
 
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