ACT Loli [チェリーポイ] Zurine Adventure (RJ080121, RJ081110, RJ085589)

[prima99]

Re: Zurine Adventure

I just feel like the people whining here are the types that can't handle change. I understand if it was big changes or something, but really? You could consider his other games RPGs as well. Guess what? His old games had an HP and MP system too, derp. Just because they didn't say "HP and MP" or have the skill ups as obvious as a normal rpg might, it didn't mean they weren't there. It seems like you guys are just nitpicking at any differences you can see.

He's barely even shown anything from it and people are already bitching? How about if you're fans of his work, give him a chance to show what he can do with a full rpg before you complain? It's not like he's decided to completely change everything he does. You guys are acting like it's the end of the world Who knows if that's what he'll even stick with. I just hope he continues making games.

I don't think I've ever seen people make such a big deal over such tiny changes here before, it's like a record.

the game shouldnt be changed. Zurine is (or was?) popular in this site as well as in google as being Action game even the DLsite site tagged it as Action game. sure you can call it ARPG but it's not just RPG it's obvious. Zurine should have stayed that being Action game not because i like it that way, but because that's what a Zurine should be. if i'm going to play some RPGs, which A LOT in DLsite, i'd pick them honestly. i didnt have to mention that there is a WAY BETTER circle in making RPG like the one who made Parallel Fantasy

then what are the pics for? those pics are clearly saying "my next game would be this blablabla". and no, i wouldnt play this "Full RPG Zurine" with the above reason. if i'm ever going to play the game it's purely just for the H Sprite. hell i dont even need to play the game and get the H Sprite somewhere. sure we dont know which one he'll make. just hoping his not strayed out the right path. and yes i'm a fans of his previous works because those are my 2nd first RPGmaker game after Caprice Doll

you dont get why people are so bitching about the changes? simple, it's because people are so love his previous games. you didnt notice this thread has been necrobumped many times before be it from people searching for active links, or people who worried about the guy's Life Signal. there even a halted translation project for the first Zurine game and only loved games are getting translations. so yea, is it a tiny changes? obviously nope.

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Yea you're right. I shouldn't be complaining since it's good that he's back. However, you can't say that the jump from a game that's basically RoR to RPG is small. It's so large that dlsite won't classify it as "action" but as "role playing" with nice animations. All I was saying was I feel like he set himself up for a boat load of work instead of an easy 3-5 months of animations, making his 1million yen and poof again. It's not that I hate change, I just don't want the game to drop below the standard that he set for it.

he didnt turn on his turbo mode for the work, he's lazy on updates. before he's gone missing he's been messing half finished game which is the supposedly 4th game. the 3rd game comes out 3 MONTHS after the 2nd while he spent 6 Months just for minor updates on each games, you can see the release dates in his blog. i'm not saying he must focus on making games without break. he can take some break time if he wishes anytime, but if he planned to release a sequel, he better go with it rather than fooling than lazing around.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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It seems to me like you guys are being really negative towards it just because he may have called it an rpg. Instead of being like 60% action, 40% rpg, it might be 55% rpg, 45% action. There are action rpgs you know. I'm just saying maybe you should cool it with the "I'LL NEVER PLAY THIS RPG GARBAGE" stuff.

Like I was upset when I found out that Eluku would be focusing on a guro game next, because Fairy Fighting was a little kinder on the physical torture. Guro is a game breaker for some people. An action rpg going a little more to the rpg side? I don't understand why that's such a big deal. We don't even know how the fighting system will work or anything yet. Of course if he went straight to full on typical turn based rpg, I may be a bit disappointed as well, but I'm waiting to actually SEE the combat and fighting system first before flipping out. I've seen some RPGs handled awesomely, like that game with Nanako (Violated Heroine?) that has been in progress for ages. That game is like a mix of Cherry's combat and an rpg.

Claiming it's the end of CherryPoi games and that you'd not play his future games is a little harsh and preemptive don'tcha think? Who says that even if he does make an rpg that he won't turn back to his older style? So all in all I'm just waiting to see what happens with his future project/projects before I have some strong opinion one way or the other.

 

[ZhouTai]

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Wont play his games anymore....
Kind of a hollow threat considering most 'dont' pay for his works for him to even recognise a decrease.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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Wont play his games anymore....
Kind of a hollow threat considering most 'dont' pay for his works for him to even recognise a decrease.

Truefax.

 

[prima99]

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It seems to me like you guys are being really negative towards it just because he may have called it an rpg. Instead of being like 60% action, 40% rpg, it might be 55% rpg, 45% action. There are action rpgs you know. I'm just saying maybe you should cool it with the "I'LL NEVER PLAY THIS RPG GARBAGE" stuff.

Like I was upset when I found out that Eluku would be focusing on a guro game next, because Fairy Fighting was a little kinder on the physical torture. Guro is a game breaker for some people. An action rpg going a little more to the rpg side? I don't understand why that's such a big deal. We don't even know how the fighting system will work or anything yet. Of course if he went straight to full on typical turn based rpg, I may be a bit disappointed as well, but I'm waiting to actually SEE the combat and fighting system first before flipping out. I've seen some RPGs handled awesomely, like that game with Nanako (Violated Heroine?) that has been in progress for ages. That game is like a mix of Cherry's combat and an rpg.

Claiming it's the end of CherryPoi games and that you'd not play his future games is a little harsh and preemptive don'tcha think? Who says that even if he does make an rpg that he won't turn back to his older style? So all in all I'm just waiting to see what happens with his future project/projects before I have some strong opinion one way or the other.

duh.. like i said before, THIS is Action RPG (ARPG). if this going to be an RPG pretty much this will become a fucking Nukige hence why i said making Zurine into RPG equal to shits. and again like i said, if i were to play RPG, i have them waiting in my disk space, lots of them even unplayed because i have to take care of my DMM games as well. i dont have to compare what zurine RPG would be to the popular RPG games out there like Parallel Fantasy, Rhode Fortress, or anything. even if the game didnt out yet, i'm pretty sure it wouldnt make fair competition against those other RPGs.

what makes Zurine ARPG good, you wonder? it's a run/defend or Rape. kind of RoR except you can defend yourself. enemies are able to swarm you and you get gangbanged <---- THIS what makes it interesting as an ARPG and why it deserve to be played as opposed to some Nukiges. and now what happened, a Zurine RPG? yeah right

you wanted to see the combat/fighting system? the pic has been there for some days.

so yeah. HP, MP, Damage and oh, a Wait timer. if this isnt an RPG than i dont know what is this.
and indeed Violated Heroine is obviously Action ARPG (ARPG) and no it's not a mix of zurine and rpg. ARPG in general are like that gameplay wise.

who says it's the end of cherry's games? and who says i'll never play his game again? i'm saying this Zurine RPG shit wont sold on me. if he keeps making more RPG then i'm not going to play it with the above stated reason. of course i wouldnt mind buying his ARPGs if he decided to make more of it than his planned RPG.

well this IS one of his future project. he has two candidates for the next game. this, or remake of the 2nd game this what google translation says.

Wont play his games anymore....
Kind of a hollow threat considering most 'dont' pay for his works for him to even recognise a decrease.

oh i did buy his games way long ago before. only the 2nd and the 3rd since the 1st didnt interest me.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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you wanted to see the combat/fighting system? the pic has been there for some days.

so yeah. HP, MP, Damage and oh, a Wait timer. if this isnt an RPG than i dont know what is this.
and indeed Violated Heroine is obviously Action ARPG (ARPG) and no it's not a mix of zurine and rpg. ARPG in general are like that gameplay wise.

who says it's the end of cherry's games? and who says i'll never play his game again? i'm saying this Zurine RPG shit wont sold on me. if he keeps making more RPG then i'm not going to play it with the above stated reason. of course i wouldnt mind buying his ARPGs if he decided to make more of it than his planned RPG.

Yes I noticed all those things in the images, I also noticed that it's not a finished game or a demo with those concepts actually realized yet. If you haven't noticed, it seems like even he's not sure where to go with his next project yet. All I said is: How about you guys wait for a demo before spazzing out? Or just leave the thread. If you're already not interested in the next game, stop checking here, lol. Some of us are excited to see what he does next.

I loved his old games, but I also love when developers branch out and try new things and improve on their formula. If he made a game exactly like his old games with just another character, that would disappoint me. There's only so many times you can copy a game type before it becomes bland, and he already has 3 very similar games. You guys are talking about how horrible rpgs are because they're so similar, but if he just kept making similar games, you'd grow to hate those too. Then you'd call him a sell out or something, claiming that he's just trying to make easy money.

I wasn't talking to just you, it was what someone else said in a previous post.

 

[prima99]

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Yes I noticed all those things in the images, I also noticed that it's not a finished game or a demo with those concepts actually realized yet. If you haven't noticed, it seems like even he's not sure where to go with his next project yet. All I said is: How about you guys wait for a demo before spazzing out? Or just leave the thread. If you're already not interested in the next game, stop checking here, lol. Some of us are excited to see what he does next.

I loved his old games, but I also love when developers branch out and try new things and improve on their formula. If he made a game exactly like his old games with just another character, that would disappoint me.

There's only so many times you can copy a game type before it becomes bland, and he already has 3 very similar games.

You guys are talking about how horrible rpgs are because they're so similar, but if he just kept making similar games, you'd grow to hate those too.

Then you'd call him a sell out or something, claiming that he's just trying to make easy money.

i do notice it's undecided for the 4th games like i said before. however the concept is there, two concepts one being ARPG while other being RPG. waiting for the Demo to come out isnt that necessary since the pics says about the would be 4th game itself, pics of the candidates for the 4th game. and nah i'm still sticking in this thread just for the confirmation about the would be 4th game and also information about the other ARPG candidate. really hoping he picked the right way, which is his Standard ARPG. every good games has, and follow Standards so yea.

that's just your matter of preferance. you dont like zurine being ARPG and prefer it to be RPG. some of us prefer the game remains to use the Standards of what makes Zurine a Zurine, which is the Standard ARPG.

say that to the Parallel Fantasy game maker. all of his games are RPG and will be RPG, yet his Sales never went down. hell even his games sold more and more as he released the SAME RPG again. so yeah, even if he make the same games over again, people will never get bored of it because of the Standards and Value and Quality of the things he's good with. Cherry's also succeeded this way as his 3 games are sold beyond 1800 DLs. even if cherry makes all of his games ARPG people will buy it. (and i'm sure most people prefer it to be ARPG)

in my case i'm talking about how horrible a Zurine turned RPG, not RPG being horrible in general. and no i'm never going to hate the old Zurine games if cherry makes more of it. maybe you hate it, but other never hate what makes Zurine Shines as a Game.

i wouldnt call him sell out, though the way he progress is like what i said before. there is the release dates in his blog as written proof if you'd like to see it. 3 months for 3rd game after the 2nd, and 6 months for minor update. yeah 6 months for one (or two) extra sex scene.

 

[ZhouTai]

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In other news, im digging that purple hair chick.
If there is a choose your character type system i'll be going for her, then athetic-tan, with the flat chest last.

 

[Crossbow1701]

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So the 4th game is back into production then.

 

[daigusto.tyo]

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New update from the blog!
h**p://b.dlsite.net/RG15281/archives/54103270.html

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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New update from the blog!
h**p://b.dlsite.net/RG15281/archives/54103270.html

New update, that's 3 weeks old and we've been talking about it for pages now, lol.

False alarm, no new update.

 

[prima99]

Re: Zurine Adventure

So the 4th game is back into production then.

nah not the true 4th game that he left behind. it's more of a new 4th game than the supposedly 4th game ones. i'm still hoping that he continue with the old 4th game than making new ones, since it's half finished and i'm really looking forward to it. well, even if he's not going to continue it, i'm hoping he makes the game stays true to the predecessor

 

[Nicko]

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I'm not sure why you're so annoyed by it. You play a porn game for the PORN, not the gameplay. And it will remain unchanged from what I can tell.

 

[The Lurkers Shadow]

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I'm not sure why you're so annoyed by it. You play a porn game for the PORN, not the gameplay. And it will remain unchanged from what I can tell.

Gameplay is still an important factor for example a softhouse seal game has good porn but lousy gameplay which leads to annoyed players who struggle to get any porn and thus lose any fap urge quickly. Now on the other side you have say Kurovadis, you have a good mix of both gameplay thats fun while the porn is decent leading to a more fappable experince, though difficulty in some jumps can kill it for some, a final example Project X:Love potion disaster a game with good quality porn content as well as a fun and not to hard gameplay experince leading to easy and enjoyable fappage.

In this games case the older games had an adrenalin rush when you had to recharge your next defence before the next enemy reached you adding to the vibe when caught, I myself favor the old style but I am curious to see how this RPG side works perhaps it will be a mix since the earlyer games had a more RPG story side where you collected items to make the action only segment easier to survive, so on the RPG side you got RPG turn based battles while the RoR like segments will still be untouched in style.

I understand why prima is upset but I do feel he is overeacting just a bit to the new changes but many of us do at one time to another. My hope is the regular Cocktopuses are still in it and the yellow like ones are just different species.

 

[ZhouTai]

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New update, that's 3 weeks old and we've been talking about it for pages now, lol.

False alarm, no new update.

You mother!!! Grr and here I was hoping for more purple hair bustyness

 

[prima99]

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Gameplay is still an important factor for example a softhouse seal game has good porn but lousy gameplay which leads to annoyed players who struggle to get any porn and thus lose any fap urge quickly. Now on the other side you have say Kurovadis, you have a good mix of both gameplay thats fun while the porn is decent leading to a more fappable experince, though difficulty in some jumps can kill it for some, a final example Project X:Love potion disaster a game with good quality porn content as well as a fun and not to hard gameplay experince leading to easy and enjoyable fappage.

In this games case the older games had an adrenalin rush when you had to recharge your next defence before the next enemy reached you adding to the vibe when caught, I myself favor the old style but I am curious to see how this RPG side works perhaps it will be a mix since the earlyer games had a more RPG story side where you collected items to make the action only segment easier to survive, so on the RPG side you got RPG turn based battles while the RoR like segments will still be untouched in style.

I understand why prima is upset but I do feel he is overeacting just a bit to the new changes but many of us do at one time to another. My hope is the regular Cocktopuses are still in it and the yellow like ones are just different species.

^ this

plus one thing to add :

the rule of "play for it's porn" only applies to Nukige. Zurine isnt a Nukige at all. you have to play the game to feel the hentai. also needless to say that it's an Action game. meaning you need to play it to enjoy the content at it's best. sure it has a H gallery like every H games has but then why did you bother to play or rather download the game just for the H content? there's exhentai and other gallery sites if you just want them Hentais? so yeah, you're playing the game because it's fun and sexy. that's Zurine for you.


@lurkershadows

honestly i'm not overeacting. sure i'm a bit upset with the sudden shit changes and all, but hey that's to be expected when your favourite H game Creator went MIA for 2 years and returned with shits that's different from what you have expected for a freaking 2 years.

besides most of us has already played many BF and Battle Rape so often it's too common. Action games like Zurine is one hell of a Rare Gem you can go ahead and count how many Action games were as good as Zurine. i played it again and again and again and i'm still fapping hard to it even now.

 

[D-D]

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Yeah some games are "play for porn" meaning you unlock porn through playing, but for some games (usually the action games) the gameplay affects the mood of the porn quite significantly.

Mechanics such as getting grabbed and the ability to struggle. Or letting them to grab and not struggling.

I've noticed that when there's an rpg with a town that has slums, I often go and check that place first. Like you know that it's a bad place, you know what happens if you go there, but you still go there. Adds to the excitement.

Cherrypoi's decision to go for rpg can be a bit worrysome. His earlier games had those moments where you had to run into a room filled with rapey enemies and dodge them the best you could. One slip and they might all gang up on you. Definitely one of the strong points of gameplay in those games. However the thing with Zurine games was that enemies had to touch you only once to grab you. Going rpg might help with doing some struggle mechanics, although you're going to lose on the swarming thing.

Anyway, has cherrypoi confirmed that his next game is going to be an rpg or is it just that those screens are in rpg form because of test reasons?

 

[kiko]

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If anyone wants a link for Zurine Adventure, just PM me.

 

[Nicko]

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Allright, I stand corrected. Those are some compelling arguments, and I've indeed been turned off by horrid gameplay more than once.

Also prima I think he said you're overreacting because you're repeating yourself a little
All I can say is that you should try to be more open to change and not reject something just because it's not the exact same as before.

Also we hardly have any REALLY good BF out there. If someone can make a fantastic one, it's Zurine!

 

[The Lurkers Shadow]

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@lurkershadows

honestly i'm not overeacting. sure i'm a bit upset with the sudden shit changes and all, but hey that's to be expected when your favourite H game Creator went MIA for 2 years and returned with shits that's different from what you have expected for a freaking 2 years.

besides most of us has already played many BF and Battle Rape so often it's too common. Action games like Zurine is one hell of a Rare Gem you can go ahead and count how many Action games were as good as Zurine. i played it again and again and again and i'm still fapping hard to it even now.

But this itself is overreacting, while what we have seen is not exactly a good sight of things to come the final product might still be enjoyable, we won't know until we try it, I prefer the old style too and I tend to dislike most BF games since I find them boring with a few exceptions such as Vitamin quest.

All we can do is wait to see what happens if the game becomes crap the developer will notice and most likely revert to what works better for less effort, path of least resistance and all that. We still might have the action sequences as well as the RPG BF stuff both would use the same kind of hentai scenes types, so perhaps it would make the item obtaining segments less hellish since there were always huge swarms of enemys making getting through it a pain.

Let's just wait and see what this game turns out like first before we bury it, we should be glad that the developers alive and well enough to continue this series at all.