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And I thank you
I know that you do, Roy. I've seen you make attempts to reach across the divide, so to speak. And by judging the posts after yours, it seems most of the klubbers follow your example, but it often isn't the case unless you did so first.

Hmmm, on earlier posts you didn't want the klub here and now you ask that we not PM each other!!!! you may monitor this thread but you cannot control the type of communication that is born out of this forum.:eek:
Don't be a faggot, we were just getting to be civil here.
 

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ну чё, по пиз...им ?:D
Я бы с удовольствием, но здешние старожилы недовольны тем, что мы пишем на русском, они даже что-то против личных сообщений имеют...:D
 

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(The following is purely talking to the guy quoted, and anyone else thinking along the same lines. The majority here have been plenty understanding, and polite enough to almost make us look bad for the initial kneejerk reaction. Most of you already understand this, but I wanted to try and explain it again for the others.)

Hmmm, on earlier posts you didn't want the klub here and now you ask that we not PM each other!!!! you may monitor this thread but you cannot control the type of communication that is born out of this forum.:eek:
And here's a small example of what I meant by people who blame and villainize the admins. This isn't us vs you, or the admins vs you. This is you vs 3X, in someone else's house. It's not about monitoring or oppressing communication. It's about having the common courtesy of not actively daring the people you're hiding out from to come and burn down the house of the people who have given you a place to sleep for the night. Because whilst you would get to just wander on and find a new place to crash, we would be faced with losing everything, and potential criminal charges.

Nunu as a volunteer admin, has had to spend their evenings facing and responding to genuine legal correspondence and related hassle over this very topic in the past already. And the site owner Aika would be at risk of far more. Young British citizens being extradited over to the US for long foreign prison sentences over absurd copyright related legal disputes is something of an existing controversy over here. So I'd say that it's perfectly reasonable to not want to have to deal with that again, and politely ask people to try not to draw any more ire from these 3X guys.

It wasn't ever the legal threat specifically that made Klub related stuff and it's members a social taboo here. It was the indignant and combative attitude that followed after being asked to stop posting the kinds of things that would get us in trouble. That's where all the hostility in those first few pages of this thread came from. Because the last thing most forum members here remembered of Klubers from that first dispute, was that "Fuck you, I'll post what I want until the forum burns." mentality that the last few holdouts had. The more polite and understanding Klubers had all said their piece and moved on at the time, and unfortunately weren't the part people remembered.

I hope this sheds a little perspective on why things have been hostile, and why Nunu is within rights to ask not to make it look like we're a 'front' for a smuggling den.
 

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In regard to the PM issue - I completely understand the Admin side of things.

Out of respect for this forum, its admin and moderators, and the members: My use of PM here would be to allow me to respond to klubbers to give them access to links that should not be posted here...like a download for a format utility, open source stuff, my own files or other misc stuff. I set up an email account through gmx while using a tor brower, so I will PM that info and follow up in the discreet email containing the desired info.
 

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@ Toxic
I know that you do, Roy. I've seen you make attempts to reach across the divide, so to speak. And by judging the posts after yours, it seems most of the klubbers follow your example, but it often isn't the case unless you did so first.



Don't be a faggot, we were just getting to be civil here.
excuse me I should have marked that post for NUNu...whom should have read it by now...and your assumptions only make...well we all know what they do...:)
everybody is sooo sensitive I should just quit and go deal with real adults......its a fucking game and if people wish to PM each other the admins don't have a say in that matter, period!!! and only "faggots" get their panties in a bunch when confronted with honest opinions therefore I shall remove myself from here because ya'll need to grow up....
 
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Kind of amazed the other site was up for so long, and the only backup plan was to come back here. Couldn't they just send out email notices to explain and tell people to wait. Doesn't need to involve anybody else.
 

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excuse me I should have marked that post for NUNu...whom should have read it by now...and your assumptions only make...well we all know what they do...:)
everybody is sooo sensitive I should just quit and go deal with real adults......its a fucking game and if people wish to PM each other the admins don't have a say in that matter, period!!! and only "faggots" get their panties in a bunch when confronted with honest opinions therefore I shall remove myself from here because ya'll need to grow up....
This, ladies and gentlemen, is why you're not welcome anywhere.
 

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The babylon system is the vampire... not us, the common man !
 

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This, ladies and gentlemen, is why you're not welcome anywhere.
Are you lumping everyone together?
If you are, you might as well delete this thread right now, instead of later on.
If you aren't, delete/ban the offending post/user.

Because, apparently, all it would take is someone from 3x to register here and pretend to be a Klub user, and keep posting something not to your liking.

I'm sure your forum must have some sort of rules. Use them.

Thank you.
 

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Still registered, sometimes here, just waiting quietly ...
I think discussions regarding the Good and the Bad are useless, I suggest you just say hello and wait for news...
Please, Klubers ...
This is not our forum, just a shelter where we can wait...
 

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In regard to the PM issue - I completely understand the Admin side of things.

Out of respect for this forum, its admin and moderators, and the members: My use of PM here would be to allow me to respond to klubbers to give them access to links that should not be posted here...like a download for a format utility, open source stuff, my own files or other misc stuff. I set up an email account through gmx while using a tor brower, so I will PM that info and follow up in the discreet email containing the desired info.
I was also part of that community. Could I also recieve that info?

Also, guys, let's show some respect. 3x may have struck us, but we're guest here. Let's not get them in unnecessary trouble, m'kay? :D But Rick9 is also right. Most of us ARE behaving. Were just sticking it out here and somewhere else.

You guys where cool dudes (and gals) on the other site, let's show them their wrong by behaving nicely, ne?
 

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All the guys can post anything here:
pornolab.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1581329&start=240
 

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@ Toxic


excuse me I should have marked that post for NUNu...whom should have read it by now...and your assumptions only make...well we all know what they do...:)
everybody is sooo sensitive I should just quit and go deal with real adults......its a fucking game and if people wish to PM each other the admins don't have a say in that matter, period!!! and only "faggots" get their panties in a bunch when confronted with honest opinions therefore I shall remove myself from here because ya'll need to grow up....
Isn't it funny how even the people on your side think you're being a cunt?

If you aren't, delete/ban the offending post/user...

I'm sure your forum must have some sort of rules. Use them.

Thank you.
Our rules are actually based on quite a bit of personal freedom with our posting, which is one of the reasons we DON'T just ban people for having an unpopular opinion. Ya know, that kinda "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death your right to say it" type of mentality. We just simply asked that people don't try to blatantly use our system for illegal purposes and people responded positively to that. People except for this guy. He didn't do anything illegal, he's just being oppositional. Which is precisely why we respond in kind. If it causes enough issue for us, he will be removed, but we believe a community isn't built just by censoring negative thoughts.
 
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I'm going to assume that 'iamkathulu' didn't see my post when hitting reply, because it was on a new page. But yeah, as long as everyone else gets what the actual issue is here and the reason for any tension. I don't at all mean to make any of the fairer people feel unwelcome or anything. But people with attitudes like iamkathulu really don't help and makes things awkward.

Also...
This, ladies and gentlemen, is why you're not welcome anywhere.
Are you lumping everyone together?
No no, what he means is, that this is what people see, whether it represents the whole or not, and where the negative reputation has come from. I don't know the details, but I heard that ULMF wasn't the first forum that Klub made a temporary home at, only to be evicted by legal threats. He means you get a bad rep because of the people like iamkathulu who turn up to crash at party, sprinkle it cocaine claiming that no one was able to stop him so it's fine, and then bail to the next party when the police show up to arrest the home owner. Normally throwing some insults at the home owner on the way out or getting indignant for being asked to leave.


Misc Admin: "Please stop sprinkling cocaine on my furniture and friends, you're going to get me in serious trouble, the police have already accused me of hosting secret drugs deals in the past because of stuff like this. And who the hell are you anyway?"
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iamkathulu type: "Everybody is sooo sensitive, I should just leave and go deal with real adults......its a fucking game and if I wish to sprinkle incriminating crap on people you don't have a say in that matter!!! Ya'll need to grow up.... "

(Note: Whilst I'm picking on iamkathulu here as the most available example, I am really referring to the general attitude that caused all the confrontations and hostility before.)

Because, apparently, all it would take is someone from 3x to register here and pretend to be a Klub user, and keep posting something not to your liking.
Whilst that's of course technically possible, 3x has no interest in attacking the forum itself specifically. They just want to stamp out any Klub activity that they can find, and are perfectly willing to trash and burn the cottages of any place they think might be hiding it, whether officially related or not. Which is ULMFs only real role or motivation in any of this. No one wants to get destroyed by collateral damage in a fight that's not theirs. The phrase "something not to your liking" is misleading. If this stuff wasn't being persecuted, we wouldn't have any issue with it.


That's the main part I just want to get across (again to the few that don't already get it. Sorry to all the others for going on about it). We're not looking for any praise or any other such nonsense. All I ask for, is that people are able to see things from the forum's perspective, and don't give us and our admins abuse for asking them to not dump their problems in our living room.


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(I'm not actually staff by the way. Just an oldfag member. That thing in my sig is, uh... well it doesn't refer to any official standing, anyway. >o> )
 
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If we just tried to rid ourselves of things not to our liking, the hentai section would have undergone a massive purge. The main of the community of this site seems to be around everything else discussions and forums games like roleplaying of playing by posts. To many of us, the 'community' in the hentai section is a complete bane, like a tumor that we ignore because it's not malignant. The difference between the growth of that section and other subsets of hentai gaming like loli and trademarked games is that their presence IS potentially damning. Malignancy gets treated.
 

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Thank you staff, for clarifying things.
I didn't want to walk on egg-shells regarding what 'others' might post! :p

BTW, I asked for a link to another forum via PM only because I thought it might be rude otherwise. Some forums don't like links to other sites.
I assure you nothing illegal is going on via PM. :D
 
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Any updates from morotaika on server status?
 
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Hello. Nice to see everyone.
My domain registrar is still working on this issue.
I'll post any news in this thread.
It saddens me to hear the you being stressed over all.....
I think they should know the opinion of our captain K17.
My opinion: It would not be easy, but faced many difficulties begin and time many people will leave.
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Hi all!! nice to see you all together here:).also thanks to NUNU that our thread is still here .i cant forget ULMF coz i started from this particular site only as far as making mod is concern:)
Stay strong.
all hello :p
Where our forum ? ; d
hi

I hope razlyuli comes back! I miss this side. The Community was very better as the Original Site. I made Comic and post it on this side. I hope razlyuli comes back!
All important is last version of the game, tools, mods and it's all what we need, content we can created ; ]

I think it is maybe time to start making a better game, new, open source executables. With a separate, but integrated (as plug-ins) converters/loaders for txx files. That would leave the dogs no arguments to bother us, and give us a much better game in the end. I was thinking of OGRE for an engine, and the MakeHuman mesh generator for characters. It is an idea I've had for some time now.

It is quite a big project for one person alone, but reasonable for 5-6 of us. I do have a day job, but could put in some work.
Nice :)
 
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