Would you survive?

[Sinfulwolf]

Re: Would you survive?

intresting perception Newbie... still not entirely convinced though. Especially if I have a personal harem...

 

[Newbie]

Re: Would you survive?

We'll make it a monarchy. I'll be the human king. You can rule by my side, as equal, and you can have a harem too, as well as whatever we can steal from the zombies! With proper training and organization, defense of a small colony wouldn't be a problem at all.

 

[Sinfulwolf]

Re: Would you survive?

This is an intresting proposition Newbie... however, how can I guarantee that the people would listen to us. I've had too many bad experiences with people ignoring my advice based off what I know. The fact that the souless legions of the dead under me would listen because I own them... that's a big draw.

 

[ToxicShock]

Re: Would you survive?

Haha, there's a big joke with my friends that I'd be the type of asshole who would try to keep spirits alive in that situation with all the wrong ideas.
The joke is that I suggest we still celebrate holidays, and then dress up as a zombie for Halloween, wandering the surviving shelter moaning.

We also joke that people always assume the outbreak would happen in their own town but that's unrealistic. So we decided that, besides our own plans on how to escape a zombie outbreak near us, we also have a plan of taking a roadtrip a few states over if we hear of a zombie outbreak happening there.
You know how the saying goes, "The hardest part of a zombie apocalypse is pretending I'm not excited."

 

[Newbie]

Re: Would you survive?

If you cannot rule through reason, rule through fear. After you shoot a couple of troublemakers I'm pretty sure every one else will fall in line. Also, in this situation I'm pretty sure many people would be looking for leaders, as they'd be too terrified to find their ass with both hands and a map. Makes assuming control much easier.

 

[Sinfulwolf]

Re: Would you survive?

This is truth Newbie... however, I'm not one to be shooting a few trouble makers unless its absolutely necessary. Plus, if I started shooting people, only a matter of time before someone decides to off me cause they think they can do a better job.

 

[lurker]

Re: Would you survive?

We should so do an RP on this >,>

 

[Newbie]

Re: Would you survive?

True. Hmmm....

Okay, assume control of a small faction early on, gain their loyalty. As your party grows, the loyal faction will grow. Since it will still be about survival, any dissenters will be free to leave the group and see where that takes them. By the time you get to setting up a colony or somesuch, we have a relatively small group of leaders, and a large group of followers. The leaders may need to be persuaded to put you and I in control, but will be put in charge of important stuff like supplies, guards, medicine, search and rescue, etc, so they stay motivated and on our side.

Also: Can't you do both? You kinda have to die to become the zed queen anyway, so why not try your hand at ruling people first? If it goes sour, run into the wilderness and don't look back.

 

[ZeroSpace]

Re: Would you survive?

I'd join the colony. If no stupid people opens the gate for zombies we'd all live... for a while. But we would still need to worry about a lot of stuff. Like what would the zombies react to? If it's life, we'd be surrounded, if it's noise, we'll be surrounded, if it's some other thing, I dunno. But a group of people needs a lot of things, things like food(we can grow some), water (Dunno about this...), ammo/self defense, and pretty damn sturdy wall if we are gonna keep zombies at bay. So my advise is to get a group, find a good car, load up on fuel/ammo food, etc. And get to safe zones(if there are any), and then later on to the sea(isolated islands, etc.). For weapons... depending on where you are the gun that uses the most common ammo would be the one you need, and we'll need close combat to keep zombies at bay, a stick or something would be great since we don't need to kill zombies, we need to keep them away so we can run, so something long would do wonders then chopping heads off with a sword. and...uh... if someone were to be bitten and isn't in a bad shape I'll take them along until they turn 'violent'. And I'd make sure no one would freak out if I was in a group, and if I was alone... I'd be screwed, but I am sure there would be people around me, I am a people person. hm... as for the zombie party... Zombies can't really taste stuff... so you are better off with humans cause Zombies can't have sex, eat, they're fucking dead, no social, and won't shoot the nearest danger in front of you, no emotions, you'd be eating people you should be protecting, can't use tools, bad mobility (have fun dragging that broken leg of yours), they are not sturdy(since everything should be rotting and technically no muscles), and to maintain a sexy body as a zombie would require you to have a good diet but eating meat and drinking blood doesn't really work, so have fun trying to be sexy. Hm... what else can i say... oh yeah, read a manga call 'Highschool of the dead' really good since it makes certain sense.

 

[Tassadar]

Re: Would you survive?

If for some reason I decided to try and survive the outbreak, I like Tassadar's ideas for equipment regarding ammo. Though to be honest the M series isn't that unreliable, my M-4 never jammed once while I was in Iraq. As long as take proper care of it it's fine. For melee I would probaly take my Marine bowie and a hatchet because they have many uses outside of fighting, plus I know how to use them if I end up having to fight with them. Not sure on vehicles, but I would probably use one as long as possible. Wouldn't waste my life for it though. Considering the armament I already have in my house i would be fairly set.

However since I plan on leading the zombies, none of that matters. We have cookies as well despite what Squid has tried to convince you of. I baked them myself. Now come on join my zombie army, you know you want to.

I was speaking comparatively, and the M4 has the best record, that I know of at any rate, of the recent M series rifles. I wouldn't hate them so much if you didn't need to be so ginger with them to keep them from getting jammed up from the environment, while I can take an AK47 built in the 60's, bury it in sand, then dig it up and fire it like nothing happened. I've actually seen the results of an experiment to test that, and watched them bring up the rifles and fire them, all guaranteed made before 1970. Also, on the off chance that you do get an AK to jam, you can fix it with your hands while you need a tool to fix the M16. Not sure about the M4, having never used one.

See, I have a bowie, but I'd rather have a trench knife simply because they're meant specifically to go through the skull, while bowies are often jagged and can get caught when stabbing with them (this is on purpose, it's meant to gut a target in one stab.) Though I imagine you'd be using it for utility rather than combat against undead since you have a hatchet.

 

[Unknown Squid]

Re: Would you survive?

Not to burst your vehicular bubble, but not everyone will have super-filled their cars with gas. Likely you will have all the streets filled with empty cars. Also, their is no gaurantee that an infected person didn't get ahead of you before dying and starting up a new horde at your secluded gas station.

I dunno, I think there's plenty left in this bubble.

The cars don't need to be super filled. Half a tank will keep you going for several hours. If I had to shell out £50 every other day, I'd rather walk the 20 miles to work. And with that, I can think of about 10 local gas stations all within an hours drive. If we average each one at currently being at half capacity, their reserves will hold enough fuel for months. Siphon the tank off any truck you find and your full too. Take the bits hanging about in random cars scattered about. The zombies simply will not be able to cover every square meter of the country side. And how big can a horde at this gas station be? At anyone time your going to have between 1 and 3 staff, maybe up to 10 customers at busy times of the day. Any of these are more likely to be victims while hiding at home. If people were copying my ideas and failing, then that's still only going to be 10 or so more zombies. In the case of an urban horde roaming, turn around and find one of the other 100 stations in range. Either crowbar the fuel cap off to siphon or whack a hole in the tank and catch it in a bottle. The developed world is drenched in fuel. If you assume 90% of the population is gone, that's going to be a hell of a lot of fuel you can help yourself to.

And lastly, why would the streets be filled with empty cars? It's not as if the moment the outbreak occurs everyone's going to jump out or zombifie at the steering wheel. In most cases, the streets would be the clearest they'd ever been since they were built. Provided you don't start driving recklessly, you'd be fine. And even in an unlikely grid locked city road, there's always the pavements.

I'm not a car nut or anything in the slightest, it's just I don't agree with the apparently established view that touching a car in a zombie outbreak equals instant death, or that you'll instantly careen into a conveniently zombie surrounded tree for no reason. The other bonuses are numerous. include saving personal energy, carrying food supplies that could be much harder to come by in latter days, good mobile shelter with something soft to lie on (preferably with a buddy for lookout duty), a power source for recharging various portable tools and items, a cigarette lighter will give you an easy camp/signal fire, lights and horn can be used (carefully) to signal to rescue/survivors, a radio for monitoring for instructions, sos calls, or any other organised survivor groups.

And if the need arises, you can leave the thing and you are still better off than anyone who had been wearing themselves down by hiking and camping rough for the last few days/weeks. You can find a new car anywhere, and upgrade to more suited transport as you find it.

Oh yeah, and ever seen a brainless hoodie try to break a car window without a tool of some kind? It's hilarious.

 

[ZeroSpace]

Re: Would you survive?

Lol seriously, beat your hand at the windshield of a car going 40mph and I'd assure you that it'd hurt. And even if a gas station IS littered with zombies can't you just do something like find another one? But I do think that Cars would be littered everywhere only they'd be damaged since people could be trying to avoid things(people, zombies, etc.) and they'd crash into other things (people, zombies, cars, etc.) So it would be hard to find a good working car, not to mention even if you do find a car, you will need a key unless you are trained to hotwire it. But if your car is low on gas, gas stations nearby is zombie home, you'd have little choices such as: Run them over, lure them away, run away, muilti tesk, try to clear them out. And after all that (if you haven't lured in more/dead) You can finally refuel(get some spare gas), probably go in a K-mart or something and grab a bit or two, water,etc. And be on your way. A team would make this a bit easier, but it would need to be organized.

 

[Unknown Squid]

Re: Would you survive?

If everyone went out in their cars at the first sign of zombies and crashed, there would be very few people left to become zombies. There would still be an abundance of working vehicles. Keys are the main issue, since hotwiring is neither a skill I nor most possess, and is increasingly difficult/impossible in new cars. Plus the risk of a stall in a hot wired car would mean a frantic and risky attempt at restarting it, possibly resulting in unwanted zomb glomping. The best place I can imagine for key with matching cars would be village or country homes, where you can find the smallest concentrations of zombies and hopefully acquire a ride before attracting too much attention. Again, careful selection and appraisal of risks is paramount. Another possible source is a surprisingly obvious one. A car dealership. If you have guns there is absolutely nothing stopping you blowing away the key cabinet locks and making a swift getaway. A decent estimation of how many zombies are in the local area is important. In all it shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to spring a vehicle and get out before too many start homing in on the noise. If not, move on and don't risk it. Also if your car is low on fuel, your doing something wrong. By half tank I'd stop somewhere to fill up from the spare in the boot, and then fill those up at the next good opportunity. As said above, fuel shouldn't be hard to come by.

 

[aika]

Re: Would you survive?

I'm totally missing the reason why being in a car is a bad thing.

It's like a mobile fortress if you lock the doors. And if you have the lights off, you can hide pretty well.

Just fill the back seat with food and drink and you're set for ages.

If a zombie comes, run them the fuck over.

 

[Hopeyouguess62]

Re: Would you survive?

I'd take whoever would come with me and clear off a small island, maybe something like Little Tall Island in Maine (Dolores Clairborne, anyone?) with a small population.

After clearing the island off (pick a SMALL island so you be reasonably sure the job is done), set up watchtowers. Then I'd revert to one of the oldest forms of transportation: boats. We'd replenish our supplies with coastal raids. It's very hard for zombies to ambush a boat, as I've never seen one swim into the ocean in search of prey. Providing you made your raids in broad daylight and coming from a direction that didn't reveal your origins, you could do so with some amount of safety.

The island would become host to a large fortification, but preferably the island chosen would be one that would act as natural camouflage for one's operations.

For these raids, you'd probably take your boat (or fleet) directly south from the island in the hours before dawn, then at dawn take the boat directly west towards your target. The sun would shine directly in the eyes of any zombies in your path, while revealing your targets extremely well. You could perform any size of raid and then retreat in the daylight in the same direction. Make a few turns to misdirect any would-be followers and then return to the island fortress.

Oh, and for obvious reasons, you'd almost never want to hit the same coastal target twice, or in any logical order.

I'd want fuel, boats and weapons to start with, as well as people who knew how to use all three. Our first raid would target a small coastal town with poor roads and a library, a gun shop, a hardware store and a dock (for learning materials, weapons, supplies and boats). I'd try to find books on or even an expert on lobster traps, since you could probably survive off lobster by collecting and replacing lobster traps off the coast. This would keep you eating for a long time with minimal risk. Fuel and water would be my major long-term concerns, hence the local raids. Hopefully I'd find something in the books to help me figure out the water issue.

 

[Rule 34]

Re: Would you survive?

Flame thrower.
Burned muscles don't work, burned organs fail. Noses, eyes and ears cease to function (because they're burned away). Even if the zombie survives it's not going to be able to hunt.

Doesn't even have to be a flame thrower. Molotov's will probably get the job done. All you need is a glass bottle, a rag and gas.

 

[Hopeyouguess62]

Re: Would you survive?

Flame thrower.
Burned muscles don't work, burned organs fail. Noses, eyes and ears cease to function (because they're burned away). Even if the zombie survives it's not going to be able to hunt.

Doesn't even have to be a flame thrower. Molotov's will probably get the job done. All you need is a glass bottle, a rag and gas.

Just promise me you'll never use these if we end up raiding a fuel station or weapons depot?

 

[Rule 34]

Re: Would you survive?

I can try. But I probably won't survive anyway. The firearm laws in Germany are pretty tight.

 

[Hopeyouguess62]

Re: Would you survive?

You might consider brushing up on your archery skills. Hopefully they let you use a bow and arrow over there?

Actually a trained archer would be a HELL of an asset, I think.

 

[Rule 34]

Re: Would you survive?

... Well, what do you know. It's considered sports equipment and as such is not outlawed for civilists.