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Dlsite forced change


Small QoL updates for those unaware:
VISA presumably stopped giving DLsite shit and is now once again accepted and can be used as a payment method.

Items are still being region-locked, but only in searches/circle pages. If you have a direct link to the product page, you can view it now without an error message.
 
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you sure about those update?
some item that i have and got region-locked, as of just now, is still region-locked. I cannot access it without JP VPN
as for VISA, that will up for DLsite to provide the option to pay with VISA again, and i checked just now and it still not available
 
Mick2000 said:
you sure about those update?
some item that i have and got region-locked, as of just now, is still region-locked. I cannot access it without JP VPN
as for VISA, that will up for DLsite to provide the option to pay with VISA again, and i checked just now and it still not available
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Maybe it's region specific? Currently in Canada.

I am able to do all of the things listed above, including pay with VISA. This started a month ago, I just thought no one bothered to post an update in the thread.

Also attached a screenshot to kinda prove I'm not going crazy. Censored the thumbnails as while the products aren't marked loli or whatever, it is a bit borderline.

EDIT: Either that, or maybe I'm the chosen one for the weirdest thing to be chosen over :V
EDIT^2: VISA also works on Ci-en/FANBOX for me, though still no luck on Fantia.
 

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In my experience as of right now, some tags are blocked completely, and some tags you can access them if you have direct links. Just tested it to remind myself, as a US resident, the loli, or 'petite' as it was briefly called, tag is accessible through direct links (the tag won't be there anymore and you can't search for the tag, but it's obvious which ones used to have it), but the 'school' tag gets completely blocked.

As an example, despite having purchased the games and the characters definitely not being loli, if I go to my purchase history and try to access the page I can't see The Resurrected Exorcist Maiden, or Taimamiko Yuugi or any of Unko morimori maru's works, because the characters wear school girl uniforms.

If I check a page like Black Panda's however, I may only see the one game that didn't technically get tagged loli, but by using direct links I can access the page for the other games, because they are tagged for loli, but not for school. It's incredibly stupid and arbitrary, but it is what it currently is.

Visa and Mastercard do seem to be back as options in the checkout however. I haven't personally gotten them to work despite trying, but I suspect that's more a problem on the side of my card and it got blocekd as fraud, and I just can't be bothered to fix it when I have a working way to buy points.
 
Already mentioned, but there is a difference between dev/circle given tags (the ones with the other info) and tags used in reviews, dev tags are subjected to the block thing, review tags will remove products from search and circle pages but still can be accessed via URL, favorites, etc.
 
I've been able to buy stuff on DLsite with VISA, though I have to make the purchase in a Chromium browser (Chrome and Brave both work); the card verification service that DLsite uses now isn't compatible with Firefox and will fail to verify the purchase.

Edit: It's comical that the hard block is on schoolgirls and not lolis. You'd think it'd be both but I guess the lolicon market is insanely lucrative.
 
Belkezar said:
I've been able to buy stuff on DLsite with VISA, though I have to make the purchase in a Chromium browser (Chrome and Brave both work); the card verification service that DLsite uses now isn't compatible with Firefox and will fail to verify the purchase.

Edit: It's comical that the hard block is on schoolgirls and not lolis. You'd think it'd be both but I guess the lolicon market is insanely lucrative.
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Well, "loli" in Japanese is the short of Lolicon, meaning Lolita lover. And Japanese and English (and most westerner meaning of the term) differ.
In all the european language I quickly checked on-line, Lolita can be sumarize as "a term defining a young girl as "precociously seductive". It doesn't necesarily imply underage.
Which would be why the loli tag don't block the page acess why schoolgirls (who are underage) is blocked.

Although that's an explanation based on the semantic interpretation of the word, not the legal one (sorry, law is a specific domain with lot of specialized term. Now way I was going to waste that much time on that....).
 
Belkezar said:
I've been able to buy stuff on DLsite with VISA, though I have to make the purchase in a Chromium browser (Chrome and Brave both work); the card verification service that DLsite uses now isn't compatible with Firefox and will fail to verify the purchase.
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Might explain some of the issues I had on other sites.
Bryanis said:
Well, "loli" in Japanese is the short of Lolicon, meaning Lolita lover. And Japanese and English (and most westerner meaning of the term) differ.
In all the european language I quickly checked on-line, Lolita can be sumarize as "a term defining a young girl as "precociously seductive". It doesn't necesarily imply underage.
Which would be why the loli tag don't block the page acess why schoolgirls (who are underage) is blocked.

Although that's an explanation based on the semantic interpretation of the word, not the legal one (sorry, law is a specific domain with lot of specialized term. Now way I was going to waste that much time on that....).
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Are we talking DLSite? Loli/Petite is still blocked, along with some school related tags.
 
Ah, so my Visa might work if I use Chrome not Firefox? Thanks for the heads up, I'll definitely try that with my next purchase. I use Firefox for most things.
 
Unrelated to Dlsite, but on the same problem :

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is now the newest target of the payement processor war against adul content.

A lot of ( trash ?) work seem to have been, at least temporary, removed from steam at the moment.

For now site like JAST, Denpasoft or Mangagamer seem ok, but for how long..... ?


That extreme censorship remind me of my Classic literature lesson, where I learned that up to the last century,
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was banned as a form of pornography.

The way it's foes, most Walt disney animated picture are gonna end up banned because the "prince" and the "princess" end up kissing in it.... (how many years until it happen ? :p )
 
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Bryanis said:
Unrelated to Dlsite, but on the same problem :

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is now the newest target of the payement processor war against adul content.
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How to crash the economy for dummies.
 
It feels like the smaller adult sites were the canary in the coal mines for whether the credit card companies could dictate what content customers can even access and they succeeded, so their expanding their reach.

I assume the endgame is that they'll start dictating what major retailers like Amazon are allowed to sell.

Unfortunately, Jeff Bezos is a coward so he'll fold immediately.

Edit: Between them Visa and Mastercard are worth a trillion, so it's really easy for them to just crush smaller companies. Steam's only worth 10 billion in comparison. Amazon actually has the sheer mass to fight back, but between Bezos being a coward and also probably agreeing with the morality police, that doesn't look good.
 
Not wholly (un)related, but :

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Maybe it will have an impact on their st*pid policy ?
 
Ugh this whole thing is so annoying, censorship everywhere, need a vpn to even get to some sites as they are by now impossible to access entirely without it, even pestering Steam now, which was already somewhat strict on these things. Dlsite got rid of all my methods to buy points, making me sail the seas again, which usually works out fine since most works, even the ones with only like 500 buyers, are available at the usual sites within one to three days anyway, but of course, sometimes, like now, you just have a game you actively followed the development of, gave the developer feedback about on Ci-En, and then when it released and almost got 2000 people buying it, for some reason it does not appear on any of the usual sites in like 5 days, and none of the forums even talk about that one in particular, blueballing you massively when you were so excited to get your hands on it.

I miss the days when I could just buy points with paypal and buy the stuff directly from Dlsite, fuck that site, mainly for giving these points an expiration date so that it was not even possible to stockpile them before buying them became unfeasible for me.
 
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do you really have to worry about DLsite point expired that bad? the expiration duration is literally 1 year, and it's not like you buy 10000 point just to spend 500 and keep the rest 9500, and are you really not going to spend that amount within 1 year?
 
Mick2000 said:
do you really have to worry about DLsite point expired that bad? the expiration duration is literally 1 year, and it's not like you buy 10000 point just to spend 500 and keep the rest 9500, and are you really not going to spend that amount within 1 year?
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One year is not that long of a time. My last possible way to buy points went down without prior announcement (at least I didn't see any) in the middle of september last year, so more than 10 months ago, before that it was rumored to likely be a temporary service, that changes in laws and policies could lead to it being discontinued, but I would have had to buy the points blindly, meaning either way I would now already be over that year limit, or at best be a few weeks away from the points expiring. There is no valid reason for them expiring, and back then, while I considered buying a big stack, I was more leaning towards the "thats delaying the inevitable shitshow by a year at most, why bother, might as well face it earlier and get used to it while hoping for alternatives to pop up" kind of mentality. Screwed me over now with that game I maybe could have bought in the best case scenario, true, but I blame the site for having this stupid 1 year point expiration policy in the first place, digital goods and currency have absolutely no need for an expiration date.
 
There are still alternatives to buy points, but the extra steps and account could deter some.
 
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