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I think the reason the SNP is still mad is because there was an unspoken "if the vote is no, let's actually try to work together" and then from their view Cameron gave them a snub again and doubled down instead.
 
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Heh, local news, but Mumps has surfaced in 10 cases on campus where I'm at, and a few other universities/colleges in the area. We're not really an area that has the whole vaccination debate often, but we're also a very lazy area combined with a ton of red tape, so the rate on campus was only about 90% because a lot of people just forgot to get boosters and admin never really enforced the rule we had requiring it. That said, I got a booster last semester, and I got the distinct feeling the people at Health Services were in awe someone actually came in for one.
 
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In not-so-local news, the Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbot has apparently been ousted in a coup by his own party, with internal power struggles being evident for a while.

Blimy.
 
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Heh, local news, but Mumps has surfaced in 10 cases on campus where I'm at, and a few other universities/colleges in the area. We're not really an area that has the whole vaccination debate often, but we're also a very lazy area combined with a ton of red tape, so the rate on campus was only about 90% because a lot of people just forgot to get boosters and admin never really enforced the rule we had requiring it. That said, I got a booster last semester, and I got the distinct feeling the people at Health Services were in awe someone actually came in for one.
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God, if those Antivaxxers would just go away into the paleolithic age where they belong. Not that this was due to antivaxxing as you stated, just using this moment to voice my frustration. :p
 
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Well to be fair, there are plenty of vaccins out there that are full of unnessesary rubbish or have little effect

But not to take any is just stupid. Just do your research and if needed buy a more expensive one that you trust more. You definitely don't want to get sick if you can avoid it

Also, no source on this one, but Germany has closed the border for migrants, and migrants will not be getting any cash or support unless they're a citizen and have worked for at least a full year. Might help Germany, but the migrants are expected to just go to France and England instead

Austria has closed their borders as well
Hungary also closed their borders, so the migrants are likely to go through Serbia and Croatia
Which happens to be an area that is still full of landmines
And an area with a history of very much disliking muslims
 
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In ye olde britain, probably minor compared to the above, new Labour Leader refusing to sing the National Anthem, instead opting to stand in 'respectful silence'. Make what you will.

And can confirm the above, BBC is doing the news round all day, every day on the migration issue in the EU and Britain.

Open borders is all good and well, until people take advantage of it and the countries realize they have to reign on their own rules, while telling us that having border controls is a sign of being exclusive and anti EU.
 
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Well to be fair, there are plenty of vaccins out there that are full of unnessesary rubbish or have little effect
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Well, not the ones that are generally a part of a national child-vaccination programme. There are several epidemic-focused vaccines that are at times questionable because they are released in a hurry before all testing can be done, but standard vaccination like for mumps, measles and the like are about as well researched as any medical substance can be at this point.
 
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Well, not the ones that are generally a part of a national child-vaccination programme. There are several epidemic-focused vaccines that are at times questionable because they are released in a hurry before all testing can be done, but standard vaccination like for mumps, measles and the like are about as well researched as any medical substance can be at this point.
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There is also the effect of people thinking "Well, it probably won't happen to me anyway, everyone else has their vaccin so its not like it can spread to me anyway"

And then barely anyone actually goes and gets vaccinated
 
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Also, no source on this one, but Germany has closed the border for migrants, and migrants will not be getting any cash or support unless they're a citizen and have worked for at least a full year. Might help Germany, but the migrants are expected to just go to France and England instead
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More accurately, German police forces now conduct border controls around the Austrian border. Also, train routes were blocked for some time. The borders themselves are still open (and there aren't even increased checks around other borders; for now at least).

Welfare for non-working EU-citiziens was in the news recently as well, but is a somewhat unrelated issue. First of all, migrants (or "refugees") get a special kind of welfare anyway, so it does not affect the migration issue. Secondly, the decision (made by the European Court of Justice) just "allows" the German job centers to deny welfare, it's not a binding decision. Though the fact, that the lawsuit was filed by a Swedish woman of Bosnian origin slightly confounds the issue.
 
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Just going to throw it out there to those opposed to allowing refugees in their country.

Amazing stories
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would most likely never have happened.
 
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The Blackman court martial reminds me a lot about the Capt. Rob Semrau incident we had here in Canada. Capt. shot a Taliban fighter wounded by an Apache strike (like guts nearby in a tree wounded), and he was put on trial for murder.

He ended up getting an honourable discharge.
 
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So apparently 4chan is now under Japanese ownership, by the founder of 2channel himself.
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Speaking of chans

8chan attacked by XSS attack through Imgur

If you visit both of these sites, you may have been messed up
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Reddit seems to think it may be related to gamergate and a retaliation attack, or just some other crap against 8chan. Either way, check if you have been hit by this and if you have, you may want to fix it
 
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States have always sought ways to instrumentalize social theories and sciences to improve cohesion and effectiveness as they see it. School curriculums are a major example, censuses are another. It's not necessarily sinister, but it certainly should be looked at critically.
 
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Considering that the American news outlets are already massively skewed and shaped to espouse a biased agenda, and all the political talk shows do massively the same thing... I think that anything less than complete scrutiny is not just a terrible mistake, but outright fucking moronic.
 
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More on the migrants coming to Europe

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This time actual refugees are leaving their camps south of Syria and traveling right back through the warzones in the hopes of reaching Europe

Now of course those camps are awful, with the local governments (Including Saudi Arabia, which has been assigned as head of human rights in the UN) not bothering to spend much, if anything on the camps. But this is very clearly a problem for Europe as well, showing that the policies are so incredibly generous to migrants that they're willing to travel from a non-warzone area, through a warzone, and then through several more safe countries just to reach Europe.

We really need to stop giving free stuff to migrants, and instead spend that money on giving the refugees waiting to return to their homes a decent life without desperation(Food and water would be a good start. They don't seem to have that). This is really a showing of how the current policies are failing incredibly hard at what they're supposed to do(Making the world better for refugees), and are instead getting people to go on dangerous treks
 
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More on the migrants coming to Europe

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This time actual refugees are leaving their camps south of Syria and traveling right back through the warzones in the hopes of reaching Europe

Now of course those camps are awful, with the local governments (Including Saudi Arabia, which has been assigned as head of human rights in the UN) not bothering to spend much, if anything on the camps. But this is very clearly a problem for Europe as well, showing that the policies are so incredibly generous to migrants that they're willing to travel from a non-warzone area, through a warzone, and then through several more safe countries just to reach Europe.

We really need to stop giving free stuff to migrants, and instead spend that money on giving the refugees waiting to return to their homes a decent life without desperation(Food and water would be a good start. They don't seem to have that). This is really a showing of how the current policies are failing incredibly hard at what they're supposed to do(Making the world better for refugees), and are instead getting people to go on dangerous treks
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These war refugees became economical refugees the moment they went further than the European border to reach the promised land. Sad that our glorious leaders and most people are too dumb to understand this. I guess they can already taste the fresh votes from these refugees!
 
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As far as I understand, refugees can't vote in the UK, or pretty much any other European country ofr that matter, though I might be wrong.

There are some problems with international law with regards to the refugee status. Afaik, refugee status is technically only granted to people who reach the nearest safe country, or rather, in the country they make themselves known first. This means that some countries like Lebanon, Greece, Turkey, Bulgaria, etc. receive a much larger percentage of refugees than more distant countries (although Germany might be an exception in this). As EU works, the general sentiment seems to be that the burden should be evened out, but on the terms of the receiving countries, and not on the terms of refugees sort of haphazardly wandering about hoping to reach Sweden or whatever. As of now, however, it seems there are a bunch of countries in political stalemates, preventing effective action.

That being said, refugees crossing back through their own war-torn countries sounds crazy. It's an interesting issue to follow up in the future, for sure.
 
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