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[censuur]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

Okay so I've replayed all 3 parts and think that I can rate the strongest of the heavenly knights and monster lord fairly.

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(#1 Tamamo) She's revealed to be one of the original monsters and is in a sealed form much like Alice in part 3, all while being able to match the other 3 heavenly knights power while sealed. After releasing her seal she had little to no trouble defeating her counter.

(#2 Alice) She's obviously here right under Tamamo. I don't think I need to go into reasoning for this.

(#3 Alma Elma) Personally I had a hard time between her and Erubetie. The main reason why Alma won was because Granberia has always lost to her since Alma knows her weakness. Alma also has her martial arts skills that easily defeated her counter.

(#4 Erubetie) Erubetie is quite mysterious, so it's hard to judge her strength accurately. You don't really get to see a lot of her non sexual skills in fights. The only reason I consider her stronger than Granberia is because of her self-destruct skill. Even though I don't think it could beat Granberia in a fight, it would injure her much more than Erubetie herself and in turn give Erubetie an advantage in the rest of the fight. Unlike Tamamo and Alma, she barely beat her counter and actually probably became weaker since parts of her colonies died.

(#5 Granberia) I know Granberia is extremely powerful and she has the potential to be the strongest of the heavenly knights, but at the end of part 3 at least she felt weaker than intended. Her most powerful technique at the end is just a weaker version of Luka's Quadruple Gigas. It takes a long time to set up and can easily be interrupted. She's also weak to sexual attacks, giving Erubetie and Alma Elma an enormous advantage over her. Like Erubetie she barely defeated her counter.

Going to have to disagree with that assesment there, here's why:

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Should note that while Granberia's counter was little more than a stronger version of herself, Erubetie's counter was built to completely negate her entirely (and still lost in the end) The pieces of Erubetie that died in the attack that killed her counter were the "souls" of women she absorbed to become who she is, and it is unlikely this would weaken her current state, possibly reducing her intellect at worst (which, lets be honest, wasn't much to begin with). Another measure of strength though, is the ammount of punishment they take in their last battle.

What I think should be mentioned about Granberia's Quadruple Giga though, is that Luka is contracted to the spirits when using his, while the one Granberia uses comes entirely from her own strength, while maintaining a serene state to the point of being able to dodge her counter while building it up (arguably not even Luka would be able to survive this) Also note that Luka's Quadruple Giga failed to take her out, only managing to weaken her for a relatively short period, while hers took out her counter completely and beyond recovery, this being a creature created to be stronger and sturdier than Granberia herself...

She's still my least favorite heavenly knight, but all signs point toward her being even stronger than Alice (note the damage her moves deal compared to Alice's monster lord's cruelty, for example)

What a game/story though, while I find most of the sexual content to be.... awkward, at the very least, the overall story (and not to forget the audio design) was absolutely amazing, I can't wait to see more from this writer, I just hope the success here allows him to step away from... well... bizarro porn -.-"

 

[iamnuff]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

I liked this game, but not as a porn game.

the Shota for a main character killed it for me. Titbeast monsters didn't help.

i mean, I like the story, and I enjoy it as a game, but when almost every sex scene is just some kid getting laughed at for being a 10 year old premature ejaculator... it's hard to consider sexy.

age up the MC to about 18-20ish and have atleast a couple of scenes where he makes a decent showing of himself in the bedroom, and I might consider it fapworthy, but at the moment?

nope.

 

[foamy111]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

Going to have to disagree with that assesment there, here's why:

Spoiler

Should note that while Granberia's counter was little more than a stronger version of herself, Erubetie's counter was built to completely negate her entirely (and still lost in the end) The pieces of Erubetie that died in the attack that killed her counter were the "souls" of women she absorbed to become who she is, and it is unlikely this would weaken her current state, possibly reducing her intellect at worst (which, lets be honest, wasn't much to begin with). Another measure of strength though, is the ammount of punishment they take in their last battle.

What I think should be mentioned about Granberia's Quadruple Giga though, is that Luka is contracted to the spirits when using his, while the one Granberia uses comes entirely from her own strength, while maintaining a serene state to the point of being able to dodge her counter while building it up (arguably not even Luka would be able to survive this) Also note that Luka's Quadruple Giga failed to take her out, only managing to weaken her for a relatively short period, while hers took out her counter completely and beyond recovery, this being a creature created to be stronger and sturdier than Granberia herself...

She's still my least favorite heavenly knight, but all signs point toward her being even stronger than Alice (note the damage her moves deal compared to Alice's monster lord's cruelty, for example)

What a game/story though, while I find most of the sexual content to be.... awkward, at the very least, the overall story (and not to forget the audio design) was absolutely amazing, I can't wait to see more from this writer, I just hope the success here allows him to step away from... well... bizarro porn -.-"

Spoiler

Luka was a lot weaker in his fight with Granberia than he is at the end of part 3 and he probably ended up holding back a lot of it's full power since he didn't want to kill Granberia. Also I still have to stand on Granberia's sensitivity weakness being a major losing point since it's been shown that a lot of monsters go both ways. As for dodging her counters attacks. Her counter seemed like she lost her cool in the end. This probably made it much easier for her to dodge her counters attacks. Personally I'm actually surprised nobody tried to correct me on Tamamo being the strongest.

 

[censuur]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

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Luka was a lot weaker in his fight with Granberia than he is at the end of part 3 and he probably ended up holding back a lot of it's full power since he didn't want to kill Granberia. Also I still have to stand on Granberia's sensitivity weakness being a major losing point since it's been shown that a lot of monsters go both ways. As for dodging her counters attacks. Her counter seemed like she lost her cool in the end. This probably made it much easier for her to dodge her counters attacks. Personally I'm actually surprised nobody tried to correct me on Tamamo being the strongest.

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No one sensible would, when you see the difference between Alice and sealed Alice and consider a similar difference for Tamamo and sealed Tamamo (and not just strength, but also intelligence; strategy, and overall experience) sealed Tamamo stands on equal grounds with the other heavenly knights (who all sort of match up to Alice somewhat) it's obvious Tamamo is absurdly strong.

As for Granberia's weakness, it really depends on what you measure, Granberia is arguably the strongest in a straight up fight (maybe even coming close to unsealed Tamamo, at least having potential to) Alma's supposed strength only comes from the fact that her true nature was a complete counter to her supposed counter (not to mention the element of surprise)
and she was the weakest of the supports in the final fight. Erubetie isn't too strong actually, her loss to Luka in part 2 reveals as much, her "nuke" is impressive and all, but she'd need to capture her opponent first (she caught her counter and Luka both off-guard, less likely to happen to any of the Heavenly-knights) Alice isn't much of a fighter actually, showing little sense in a fight and charges around with brute force and little else, this works on enemies much weaker than her but a challenging opponent will be able to take advantage.

And I'm theorizing here, but most of her "weakness" might also be the fact that she's tsundere for Alma... (see little other reason for her to keep making the same mistake over and over and over and putting up little resistance despite having the strength and agility to keep Alma off of her)

 

[foamy111]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

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No one sensible would, when you see the difference between Alice and sealed Alice and consider a similar difference for Tamamo and sealed Tamamo (and not just strength, but also intelligence; strategy, and overall experience) sealed Tamamo stands on equal grounds with the other heavenly knights (who all sort of match up to Alice somewhat) it's obvious Tamamo is absurdly strong.

As for Granberia's weakness, it really depends on what you measure, Granberia is arguably the strongest in a straight up fight (maybe even coming close to unsealed Tamamo, at least having potential to) Alma's supposed strength only comes from the fact that her true nature was a complete counter to her supposed counter (not to mention the element of surprise)
and she was the weakest of the supports in the final fight. Erubetie isn't too strong actually, her loss to Luka in part 2 reveals as much, her "nuke" is impressive and all, but she'd need to capture her opponent first (she caught her counter and Luka both off-guard, less likely to happen to any of the Heavenly-knights) Alice isn't much of a fighter actually, showing little sense in a fight and charges around with brute force and little else, this works on enemies much weaker than her but a challenging opponent will be able to take advantage.

And I'm theorizing here, but most of her "weakness" might also be the fact that she's tsundere for Alma... (see little other reason for her to keep making the same mistake over and over and over and putting up little resistance despite having the strength and agility to keep Alma off of her)

Spoiler

Her reason to keep challenging Alma is a sense of pride. Alma defeating her that way probably hurts her pride a lot.

 

[DarkfallDC]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

If you're 100% always failing to dodge, it means you're already at the 'all out offense' part. Just save up 8 SP before then, trigger it and then Daystar her for a (near) OHKO.

Not 100%, except for the serene state. I haven't ever gotten her down past 50%.

 

[dienow]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

The ending to this game is simply amazing. And interactive. And erotic.

 

[krisslanza]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

I liked this game, but not as a porn game.

the Shota for a main character killed it for me. Titbeast monsters didn't help.

i mean, I like the story, and I enjoy it as a game, but when almost every sex scene is just some kid getting laughed at for being a 10 year old premature ejaculator... it's hard to consider sexy.

age up the MC to about 18-20ish and have atleast a couple of scenes where he makes a decent showing of himself in the bedroom, and I might consider it fapworthy, but at the moment?

nope.

That kind of goes against the entire genre given its a GoR-centered game. If the protagonist was actually able to put on a showing during their rape, it'd kinda defeat the point of it (unless its also corruption).

Just sayin'. And there's the fact monstergirls are biologically disposed to do what they do - no one can last in them any longer then they want, more or less.

 

[thswherizat]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

The whole "femdom" part of it was essentially the central fetish of the game. If you don't like that, you were already playing more for the story or the art, but not the descriptions.

 

[lazydude]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

The whole "femdom" part of it was essentially the central fetish of the game. If you don't like that, you were already playing more for the story or the art, but not the descriptions.

if your doing that I'm sure torotoro would be quite happy, as he prides himself as a writer.

 

[xxSADPUPPYxx]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

Can someone link me to where I can download a full save of all the game parts encyclopedia and if you can save files as well. MY computer broke and I don't want to go through the games again.

 

[TalonHK3]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

Might be off topic, I'm not entirely sure, but is Luca the first time the anti-christ has been portrayed as true hearted noble hero or is there some story or show I might've missed?

 

[krisslanza]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

if your doing that I'm sure torotoro would be quite happy, as he prides himself as a writer.

Honestly I recommend Monmosu more on the story and characters. Sure, it's a hentai game, but I wouldn't really recommend it on that alone.

The story and characters is what makes Monmosu so unexpectedly great. You just don't expect stuff like that from a hentai game, and then it surprises you with having it.

 

[censuur]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

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Her reason to keep challenging Alma is a sense of pride. Alma defeating her that way probably hurts her pride a lot.

Spoiler

If that were legitimately true, and that this would be a surefire counter to her, then you'd think her counter enemy would be this rather than just a stronger version of herself, there is really no sensible excuse for there not to be other than this not being as significant of a weakness to her, and it being more of a weakness to Alma herself than a weakness to erotic attacks in general, unless I missed something of course.

 

[foamy111]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

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If that were legitimately true, and that this would be a surefire counter to her, then you'd think her counter enemy would be this rather than just a stronger version of herself, there is really no sensible excuse for there not to be other than this not being as significant of a weakness to her, and it being more of a weakness to Alma herself than a weakness to erotic attacks in general, unless I missed something of course.

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Alma's the only one who knows of it as far as I know. Well Luka also if you view the scene. Alma's mother knew of her martial arts but her counter didn't so it wouldn't be strange that only Alma knows of this weakness. It could be considered a weakness to Alma as well though since she is the Succubus Queen and knows exactly how to "play" with Granberia.

 

[censuur]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

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Alma's the only one who knows of it as far as I know. Well Luka also if you view the scene. Alma's mother knew of her martial arts but her counter didn't so it wouldn't be strange that only Alma knows of this weakness. It could be considered a weakness to Alma as well though since she is the Succubus Queen and knows exactly how to "play" with Granberia.

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Alma's secret is a secret because it was hidden long before she became a heavenly-knight, pretty much everyone at the monster lord's castle knows about Alma and Granberia as they dont exactly keep their sparring well-hidden and it seems to occur quite regularly. Not to mention Alma's secret comes completely out of the left field whereas Granberia's sensitivity is hinted at fairly frequently.

Side note: I wonder if anyone actually didn't like the story, and if so for what reasons...

 

[Shadowlyger]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

I liked this game, but not as a porn game.

the Shota for a main character killed it for me. Titbeast monsters didn't help.

i mean, I like the story, and I enjoy it as a game, but when almost every sex scene is just some kid getting laughed at for being a 10 year old premature ejaculator... it's hard to consider sexy.

age up the MC to about 18-20ish and have atleast a couple of scenes where he makes a decent showing of himself in the bedroom, and I might consider it fapworthy, but at the moment?

nope.

Actually he is 18-20ish.

 

[Larcx]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

Honestly I recommend Monmosu more on the story and characters. Sure, it's a hentai game, but I wouldn't really recommend it on that alone.

The story and characters is what makes Monmosu so unexpectedly great. You just don't expect stuff like that from a hentai game, and then it surprises you with having it.

Yeah.....

I mostly skip the reverse rape scene anyway
Only several is good. Alice,4HK,Spirits,Cupid,Valkyrie etc etc
The rest is so bizzare , well it's Monster Girl anyway

I prefer it's story
The Hentai content aren't that suit's Me

Hope Toro2 will make another great one , with also a great story

Sry Bad English~

 

[tag111]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

Going to have to disagree with that assesment there, here's why:

Spoiler

Should note that while Granberia's counter was little more than a stronger version of herself, Erubetie's counter was built to completely negate her entirely (and still lost in the end) The pieces of Erubetie that died in the attack that killed her counter were the "souls" of women she absorbed to become who she is, and it is unlikely this would weaken her current state, possibly reducing her intellect at worst (which, lets be honest, wasn't much to begin with). Another measure of strength though, is the ammount of punishment they take in their last battle.

What I think should be mentioned about Granberia's Quadruple Giga though, is that Luka is contracted to the spirits when using his, while the one Granberia uses comes entirely from her own strength, while maintaining a serene state to the point of being able to dodge her counter while building it up (arguably not even Luka would be able to survive this) Also note that Luka's Quadruple Giga failed to take her out, only managing to weaken her for a relatively short period, while hers took out her counter completely and beyond recovery, this being a creature created to be stronger and sturdier than Granberia herself...

She's still my least favorite heavenly knight, but all signs point toward her being even stronger than Alice (note the damage her moves deal compared to Alice's monster lord's cruelty, for example)

What a game/story though, while I find most of the sexual content to be.... awkward, at the very least, the overall story (and not to forget the audio design) was absolutely amazing, I can't wait to see more from this writer, I just hope the success here allows him to step away from... well... bizarro porn -.-"

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Granberia vs Erubetie vs Elma Alma is more questionable to me, but I don't think comparing Alices attacks to Granberias attacks side by side gives an accurate picture. Alice was fighting along side luka for the entire fight against ilias plus she fought along side him against transformed promestein and black alice. Granberia Tamamo and Erubetie did deal with their counters, but during the entire fight I don't think Any of the other heavenly nights took as much damage as alice did especially including the end when luka did the quadrupel giga and Alice had to put up a last defense. Alice stayed conscious too while Granberia used up her life force and exhausted herself to pull off her last attacks. I would put Tamamo as a clear favorite with alice as a obvious second. During the story Granberia also said her power was honestly not on par with alice during the fight to decide the monser lord as well. For me it would be Tamamos unsealed form then Alice and for 3rd 4rth and 5th I kinda agree with foamy111, but if push came to shove I wouldn't be too decisive for the last three power ranking spots.

 

[censuur]

Re: Monster Girl Quest

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Granberia vs Erubetie vs Elma Alma is more questionable to me, but I don't think comparing Alices attacks to Granberias attacks side by side gives an accurate picture. Alice was fighting along side luka for the entire fight against ilias plus she fought along side him against transformed promestein and black alice. Granberia Tamamo and Erubetie did deal with their counters, but during the entire fight I don't think Any of the other heavenly nights took as much damage as alice did especially including the end when luka did the quadrupel giga and Alice had to put up a last defense. Alice stayed conscious too while Granberia used up her life force and exhausted herself to pull off her last attacks. I would put Tamamo as a clear favorite with alice as a obvious second. During the story Granberia also said her power was honestly not on par with alice during the fight to decide the monser lord as well. For me it would be Tamamos unsealed form then Alice and for 3rd 4rth and 5th I kinda agree with foamy111, but if push came to shove I wouldn't be too decisive for the last three power ranking spots.

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Dont forget the other heavenly knights had only just battled their counters and rushed to the fight as fast as they could get there without a moment of rest, wheras Alice did fight alongside Luka against Promestein and Black Alice, neither of those actually attacked her with anything. Also note that while Alice and Luka fight Illyas, the four heavenly knights each intentionally place themselves in harms way to protect Luka, wheras Alice is just getting hit without doing the same (until the end, anyway) so it's highly debatable wether Alice has more endurance and even if she does, it's largely due to her inability to be evasive (she never dodges a single attack in the entire story, wheras the four heavenly knights have each proven quite capable of evasion) Also lets not forget about Granberia tanking the Quadruple Giga and, while weakened, still being on her feet afterward, a feat that not a single other entity in the story has managed.