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Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

This game is ridiculously difficult. How am I supposed to defeat the plant summoning dude when I just lvl 3? And I can't even run away because he appeared at the spawn point.
 

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This game is ridiculously difficult. How am I supposed to defeat the plant summoning dude when I just lvl 3? And I can't even run away because he appeared at the spawn point.
I think Dame Verte is SHE actually. Anyway throw Holy water at them should do lot of damages to the group.

How to unlock ears and tails of cat and rabbit for appearance? What are Lycanthrope and rabbithrope? Also, this "Treat" means go get raped?
 
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And I can't even run away because he appeared at the spawn point.
If she's between you and exit from the room, then yeah, try throwing holy water and when they approach make distance with backflip. If not, and exit is not far away, jump away from her in direction of exit. If location is not surrounded by walls, and there's another way close by, you can try running for it and jumping.
How to unlock ears and tails of cat and rabbit for appearance? What are Lycanthrope and rabbithrope? Also, this "Treat" means go get raped?
Belle, boss from City High Road can give you Lycanthrope debuff if you lose to her. To treat it you have to go doctor from England at Watermill and select second option from dialogue. I think it covers bother lycanthrope and rabbitthope. Be vary though, lycanthropy is kinda heavy debuff in second phase, so do this only if you are able to escape after that.
 

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Oh I see, then treat is cure. But isn't that doctor disappear to somewhere else already?
Nope, he disappears only if you currently have nothing to cure. Otherwise he's always there.
 

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Nope, he disappears only if you currently have nothing to cure. Otherwise he's always there.
do I have to lost with 0 vitality? I don't get any debuff, she just simply leaves. XD
 

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do I have to lost with 0 vitality? I don't get any debuff, she just simply leaves. XD
Nope, but you have to read at least two last pages of the thread. That's not that much, really.

Harleyquin13 said:
... despite a thorough violation by Belle there's no guarantee she'll bestow lycanthropy. Anyone care to confirm?
Dragonpaladin said:
Confirmed on the random, but it greatly increases with futanari.
Monceber said:
Yeah, it's not 100% chance - I got it only after second time.
 

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I actually beat plant summoning girl at lv1 no problem on a brand new game. (Same with every other mob in forest, boss requires scroll though) It just takes some practice with the longsword and positioning. (They are difficult because they take 1/4 damage from bullets and has lv1 divinity)

1) Weapon enchant (Lv3 divinity will make killing it a lot easier)
1.1) Make sure counter is on
2) Redemption
3) Angelic Halo
4) While facing the plants at 135 degrees (Counter only active in front and diagonal of the front) approach
5) Swipe until dead
5.1) Protector's oath when you need it

Position requires that you are at least 3 squares away from the plant girl before she summons. (If your next to her before she summons plants, your dead period.)

After summon, the first thing is redemption to paralyze/purify. If you get grabbed instead, just angelic halo (won't move) otherwise, angelic halo if you won't be jumping in the middle of the mobs. (Aim diagonally if you have to, its ok to overshoot, just not being surrounded) Backflip when you are being surrounded and keep the enemies facing you. As long as the enemies are within the 135 degrees and you are next to one of them, you are fine. (Might angelic haloing a second time though)

Note: Do not use sword's acute, walking is safer. (Due to sword's acute and angelic halo canceling counter) You can use guns to cleanup, but never to start off. You desperately need the damage from redemption and/or angelic halo at low levels. (These mobs doesn't turn regen hp)

The above works for all summoning mobs. Except Initiate and Reaper. You need a certain amount of level/gears for those due to enemy raw damage. (Especially Initiate's minion, is a fricken monster hitting over 50 dmg & stun)
 
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I actually beat plant summoning girl at lv1 no problem on a brand new game. (Same with every other mob in forest, boss requires scroll though) It just takes some practice with the longsword and positioning. (They are difficult because they take 1/4 damage from bullets and has lv1 divinity)

1) Weapon enchant (Lv3 divinity will make killing it a lot easier)
1.1) Make sure counter is on
2) Redemption
3) Angelic Halo
4) While facing the plants at 135 degrees (Counter only active in front and diagonal of the front) approach
5) Swipe until dead
5.1) Protector's oath when you need it

Position requires that you are at least 3 squares away from the plant girl before she summons. (If your next to her before she summons plants, your dead period.)

After summon, the first thing is redemption to paralyze/purify. If you get grabbed instead, just angelic halo (won't move) otherwise, angelic halo if you won't be jumping in the middle of the mobs. (Aim diagonally if you have to, its ok to overshoot, just not being surrounded) Backflip when you are being surrounded and keep the enemies facing you. As long as the enemies are within the 135 degrees and you are next to one of them, you are fine. (Might angelic haloing a second time though)

Note: Do not use sword's acute, walking is safer. (Due to sword's acute and angelic halo canceling counter) You can use guns to cleanup, but never to start off. You desperately need the damage from redemption and/or angelic halo at low levels. (These mobs doesn't turn regen hp)

The above works for all summoning mobs. Except Initiate and Reaper. You need a certain amount of level/gears for those due to enemy raw damage. (Especially Initiate's minion, is a fricken monster hitting over 50 dmg & stun)
Not to mention that the initiate is normally a monster most players only see after they've more or less cleared the game and isn't any slouch with multiple magic attacks at 60-70 damage each. The Minion's immortality feature is a real pain as well, just as well one of my spare weapons is enchanted with earth3 which does the job nicely.

The Reaper's ranged scythe attack is liable to inflict silence, which can be fatal if his spectre friends are nearby with other support to rip into you while your special abilities are locked down. The Granite blade with a few status-ailment essences more or less rips him into tiny pieces.

The Arachne and summoned arachnids aren't too bad so long as one isn't surrounded, they're so intent on their webbing attack that they end up webbing themselves which aids crowd control. Kill the Arachne quickly before her summon ability cooldown expires and there shouldn't be too many problems with the leftovers even with basic gear.

The revenant and his ghoul minions have somewhat strong poison attacks and the ability to strip clothes. What I find annoying is the revenant has to be killed within a single combat round otherwise the summoned ghoul minions always end up surrounding the PC, necessitating use of the charging special move (forgot the name, it's the leftmost ability on one of the shortcut menus) to regain position in order to clean them out one by one starting with the revenant.

The Banshee and her summoned spectre minions are found as early as the underground river, but her AI is weird in that she'll summon and then try to ambush the player later. Spectre default attack does all sort of annoying status effects but fortunately they're relatively easy to kill. As mentioned earlier in the post with the big strategy guide, identifying where the invisible banshee and spectres are located is an easy task, just hold Q and there'll be a combat log message indicating something is right in front of the PC when the correct direction is faced.
 

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While Harley's got that detailed guide above, I will chime in with the technical details:

Summoning Timing:
Dame Verte - First Turn: All rush in
Arachne - First Turn: All rush in, Minions spam web on odd turns
Banshee - First Turn: When revealed (hit) rush in, otherwise runs away
Initiate - First Turn: Initiate stays back, can debuff using minion's position, Minion rush in, minion is immortal unless purified
Reaper - After attacking, the next turn, Reaper rush in, minion same as banshee's
Revenant - When being hit, all rush in

In terms of the revenant, use gun or redemption to hit it at range rather than melee to trigger the summon. Same tactics otherwise. At high level/gear, the 135 degree with melee weapon and counter makes you near invulnerable. (Weak against magic though)

Update: Seems like chastity isn't reset when loading history, hence despite not having it registered as an event, you are no longer a virgin. Found this out when I backlashed myself to low hp at floor 20+ and got killed by the boss. There was no message of chastity lost. Hence for those who are strict, you need load history and start new game from PC's room.

Rants:
Geeze, every time I use dawn-star with vanguard's lancer I have to
1) check if enemies are close
2) check hp > 120
3) mentally duck for cover
4) Fire in the hole!
And then its fire and forget and watch everything dies. One mistake and PC dies off along with them.
I feel like a cat in cream if I can get a shoot off without getting hit by backlash now.

Update 2: Burial Blade is a horrid excuse for a overpowered melee weapon with too much durability. Add any elements and its a Lv3 Divinity weapon that has the same defense ignore as piercing bullets.
 
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Ok finally, today Belle thrown out lycanthrope for me. I rushed to doctor, treated, got 1 animal essence, then I returned to the mirror. IT DOES NOT LET ME PURCHASE!!!!. Do i have to enter 2nd phase of lycanthrope?
 

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Assuming you have the latest version with 2 manual patches in patch folder.
1) Did you have futanari?
2) Did you kill belle afterwards or let her leave satisfied?

Although neko ears/usagi ears are tied to lycan & doctor curing you, the neko tail is tied to impregnating belle instead.
You need both despite neko tail being "not implemented" (it actually is implemented)

Rants:
Apparently Burial blade only require 2 slotted granite blade to have 1 slot in it. Its requirement is softer than Cross-fire P8's 1 slot. I used my 3 slot anyways, since I can never have enough etc to upgrade everything. (4 Weapons is ideal)
I believe red stars essence are a rare drop from Monster Floor alternative coloring version of mobs. Haven't tested it out, but I do hope its something other than pregnancy. (Since that's the way to get purple essence)

Max-Slot Gears versus Over-Slot Gears:
New definition, max-slot gears as we know is max slotted equipment in the item compendium.

Over Slot gears are specific gears with red essence that cannot normally be gotten. For example, using my gears as example: Lv3 Str,Lv3 Def, Lv2 Para. These normally require 1 extra slot of Lv2 + Lv1 for strength and defense, and 2x Lv1 Para for Lv2 Para. Most of them are also red-star drops that no one has gotten yet.

If these essence are present, you effectively have max slot+1, given that they requires 2 slot to acquire normally.
For clothing, its especially important:
If a 3 slotted-clothing has a Lv3 dex red essence, the other 2 slot are free resulting in the capability of a sailor fuku along with stats boost of the former. i.e. 2x passive buff on your PC.

All of the above woulda been a non-factor if Over-slotted gears are a random drop. But they are not, and is possible to slot expand them to max slots.
1) First, you need to lucky with red essence as a drop or from the drawf (drawf is easier)
Example: Lv3 Str,Lv3 Def, 3 slotted Longsword
2) Find the same weapon with max slots and red essences within it. Note, red essence of primary + red essence of secondary >= # of slots expanded into.
Example: 1 Mdf, 1 Atk, 4 slotted Longsword (2 + 2 = 4)
3) Slot expand the first
Result: Lv3 Str,Lv3 Def, 4 slotted Longsword. -> Over-Slotted II Weapon
4) Optional: Craft into another weapon:
Lv3 Str, Lv3 Def, 4 slotted longsword + 2 red essence, 3 slotted bonesaw = Lv3 Str, Lv3 Def, 1 slot free Brawler's Blade. (Galze something, weird spelling. I will attach a screenshot later)

After that wall of text, what I am trying to say is:
Keep low slotted gears with red essence (like Lv3 Strength or Lv2 Para) if they are in the first slot. They can be crafted later on to an over-slot equipment.
Over-slot clothing will alway be better than max-slot clothing. Weapons are better or equal to, depending on what essence you are putting into it.

There's technically possibility of reducing red essence to 1 using crafting when there's 2 red essence and only the first one is desirable. But that's too much work to describe and I am in the research stage for fusion recipes. Hence, I am just tosing them.
 

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My PC's record isn't clean because I'm not always careful and get caught by the purple orb trap (rape memories) and the vibrator trap (which I have no idea how to dispel hence my 16% progress towards vibrator addiction).

If what DragonPaladin says is true, then there's not really that much doing a virgin runthrough except for personal satisfaction.

I'm starting to believe that clean max-slot rapiers and limbfires don't exist as drops in normal difficulty. I've made it to level 30 on the city road with semi-complete clears, have picked up at least two copies of max-slot sailor suit and shell bikini yet am no closer to finding those two elusive items.

I'm postponing getting lycanthropy for later whilst I gather some cash for a few upgrades at the blacksmith. Just to clarify what's needed for animal essence (and stray cat):

Step 1: Enable Futanari in the game options.
Step 2: Let Belle have her way with you, don't resist her advances and hope she inflicts futanari, lycanthropy and gets pregnant violating you.
Step 3: Head to the watermill to be cured of your conditions.
Step 4: With the animal essence at hand, go to the blacksmith with a goth suit to receive stray cat.

Did I miss anything above?

Maiden essence has now been renamed to sister's essence, the requirement for getting a cardinal's robe. Oddly enough using the confirmation interface at a random fireplace showed an upgrade from sister's robe to another sister's robe. Perhaps I'll have to wait until I actually reach the blacksmith before seeing the mythical cardinal's robe.
 

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My PC's record isn't clean because I'm not always careful and get caught by the purple orb trap (rape memories) and the vibrator trap (which I have no idea how to dispel hence my 16% progress towards vibrator addiction).
No way to dispel vibrator, but its disappears if you make it to a new area/safe zone. When I get hit by one of these 2 dreaded traps, I usually just F12 restart and that's an instant end to the run. (yes, that's how hardcore I am with my PC's history. Plus the fact I haven't save-scummed even once *Fish-eyes*)

If what DragonPaladin says is true, then there's not really that much doing a virgin runthrough except for personal satisfaction.
Its personal satisfication and PC's puppy eyes makes me feel guilty.

I'm starting to believe that clean max-slot rapiers and limbfires don't exist as drops in normal difficulty. I've made it to level 30 on the city road with semi-complete clears
Monceber has a dropped clean max-slot rapiers. I got a silver essence first slot max-slot limbfire. I also crafted a clean max-slotted limb-fire as well.

Step 1.5: Let fame verte inflicts futanari on you.
Step 2: Let Belle have her way with you, don't resist her advances , lycanthropy and gets pregnant violating you.
Note: Belle does not inflict futanari on you. (or rare enough I never gotten it to happen)

A random fireplace showed an upgrade from sister's robe to another sister's robe.
Cardinal Robe shares the same icon and is the same as a sister's robe, except its red. However, the stats difference is ... I will keep it as a surprise, but its definitely worth the one slot that disappeared.
 
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Cardinal robe obtained, it's as good as you say. The missing slot I had was previously for resistance but it's not a terrible loss.

Anyone else other than the plant summoner who can inflict futanari? I'm not fond of losing to the plants since repeated violations make bad habits easy to acquire.

It seems I'll have to keep farming a bit longer before I move to hell mode.
 

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Plant & Spider are the easiest. You have to realize there's only 4 female mobs in game.

The missing slot I had was previously for resistance but it's not a terrible loss.
"Not a terrible loss" ._.
 

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Plant & Spider are the easiest. You have to realize there's only 4 female mobs in game.

"Not a terrible loss" ._.
No one tried getting impregnated by a banshee? If she has the ability, using her is probably best since spectres have the ability to strip clothes which stops them from getting shredded during the violation.

To be precise, I gave up my 生命 level 1 essence in exchange for twin madness essences in my cardinal's robe. If only there was a way to fuse existing essences into their stronger counterparts...
 

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If that's the case, I would have all Lv3 essences laying around every where. (I have Lv2 of just about everything x4 stocked in my box. Except status effect which only Lv1 is available, and Status prevent, which I don't keep.)

Once upon time, I crafted a Lv3 sky shooter. Today the drawf looked on me condescendingly and offered me the attached screenshot. I blinked and brought it. Then I posted here to show the perfect example of Over-Slot gears by the drawf.
Em yeah, apparently drawf's generation of weapon is 100% random. So something as stupid as the above could happen. And just to make another point, I attached a picture of it fused with a random essence and got a 4-slotted limb fire that I can use with mithirl ammo & add 3x status effect essence. (Quartz work will be on maid fuku)
 

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No one tried getting impregnated by a banshee? If she has the ability, using her is probably best since spectres have the ability to strip clothes which stops them from getting shredded during the violation.

To be precise, I gave up my 生命 level 1 essence in exchange for twin madness essences in my cardinal's robe. If only there was a way to fuse existing essences into their stronger counterparts...
I think they are like auto-maids, they don't actually give futa, but still have CG's if you have the status effect. (Getting one impreg'ed is a pain too, they spend more time running away then doing anything else.) The skin color is okay (Using it right now.), but I'm more interested in the unimplemented hair that you unlock.

If that's the case, I would have all Lv3 essences laying around every where. (I have Lv2 of just about everything x4 stocked in my box. Except status effect which only Lv1 is available, and Status prevent, which I don't keep.)

Once upon time, I crafted a Lv3 sky shooter. Today the drawf looked on me condescendingly and offered me the attached screenshot. I blinked and brought it. Then I posted here to show the perfect example of Over-Slot gears by the drawf.
Em yeah, apparently drawf's generation of weapon is 100% random. So something as stupid as the above could happen. And just to make another point, I attached a picture of it fused with a random essence and got a 4-slotted limb fire that I can use with mithirl ammo & add 3x status effect essence. (Quartz work will be on maid fuku)
I started doing hard mode in hopes of good essences and gear, but maybe camping the dwarf seems to be the better option... But who knows, perhaps an elaborate and expensive means to upgrade essences will exist later.
 

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Have fun camping drawf, cause it isn't save and reload and see new catalog. Due to the fact that only a few weapons is loaded each time you spend long enough in dungeons, the list renews slowly. OTOH, its definitely safer and perhaps more efficient. (Drop generation being what it is even at floor 30ish)

The exception is visitng drawf in another area. For example, when I got the drawf to show up in the small house next to the graveyard, the catalog contains a brand new set of weapons, including the screenshotted sky shooter. Go into dungeon long enough and visit different places where the drawf might appear is probably an interesting and rewarding experience. PC has changed class! PC has changed class to drawf's stalker follower! PC has obtained Over-Slotted Weapon! Too bad PC will never obtain max-slotted clothing this way.
 
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