RPG RPG Maker [うさぎめしや / usabox] MaiDenSnow Eve / MaiDenSnow Eve ～さる前夜祭～ (RE115762, RJ115762)

[CrownLustre]

Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

I don't think this game reserve any Sure-Method to prevent anything from accuring (such as no sure ways to complete-counter Belle).
Like I said, Bondage gears prevent enemy from penetrating the virginity for as long as it not broken, and it can't be removed by enemies even while being down. Combo it with Silver Collar + Neutralize2 essence can lower the chances of it broken while being down. But this method doesn't seems fit to you.
Corruption-inscription might not be good too, like you said, it only delay the time but not nullify it. During the turn-on/Passion-Beat state, you will suffer more from the follow-up Ecstasy or Sensitive which reduct your combat and sanity. I think Corruption-inscription was meant as a combo with other stuff (like blute + Recolte), and not for your case (maybe, idk).

Well, I'm out of ideas. Good luck finding the best solution then DragonPaladin-senpai .

 

[Monceber]

Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

Considering you play with virgin characters, your character should be MORE resistant to being sexually aroused and turned on than my non-virgin (virgin bonus of 25% resistance to 誘惑 debuffs). The only reason why your character completely loses it is because of the low 我慢 rating compared to mine.

I don't think low endurance rating is the case here, actually. With my main gear set I have it at 1, nevertheless my Roland can last very long, and even 100% bar doesn't explode her and I can still safely continue to explore (I still need to use recuperation every few turns though, because 'Passion beat' don't go away in this case). My Roland is not a virgin though, unlike Dragon's so I believe it's more likely to be the case (or maybe a combination of both, dunno).

On totally unrelated notice though, I know Harley got to floor 100 of Border a while ago, but what's the deepest floor anyone of you reached in the Lightless road/path/whatever-it's-called? Because personally, I turned the tail around 18-ish floor, where level 150 monsters started to appear.

 

[Harleyquin13]

Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

I don't think low endurance rating is the case here, actually. With my main gear set I have it at 1, nevertheless my Roland can last very long, and even 100% bar doesn't explode her and I can still safely continue to explore (I still need to use recuperation every few turns though, because 'Passion beat' don't go away in this case). My Roland is not a virgin though, unlike Dragon's so I believe it's more likely to be the case (or maybe a combination of both, dunno).

On totally unrelated notice though, I know Harley got to floor 100 of Border a while ago, but what's the deepest floor anyone of you reached in the Lightless road/path/whatever-it's-called? Because personally, I turned the tail around 18-ish floor, where level 150 monsters started to appear.

I stopped playing a while ago, but even on default settings the last dungeon was made much harder than when I last got to level 100. If you're seeing level 150+ monsters by floor 18 then you're most likely playing with the extreme setting on or triggering too many of the monster level upgrade debuffs along the way. Dragonpaladin on extreme didn't really get past 30 either because of the monster levels getting to 3 digits very quickly.

 

[Monceber]

Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

I stopped playing a while ago, but even on default settings the last dungeon was made much harder than when I last got to level 100. If you're seeing level 150+ monsters by floor 18 then you're most likely playing with the extreme setting on or triggering too many of the monster level upgrade debuffs along the way. Dragonpaladin on extreme didn't really get past 30 either because of the monster levels getting to 3 digits very quickly.

No, Last dungeon is perfectly fine, by the time I get to floor 100, average monster level is in 90-120 diapason. The thing I was talking about is Lightless road, content of the latest patch where you need to collect sacrifices in 6 ordinary dungeons (it's triggered by Restless Night memory, I think?)
I've gone there without extreme mode on, but as I've mentioned monster level scaling there is insane. What's more, it's not average level of monsters that is increased, but only some of them. E.g. Arachne lvl.25 summoning can summon a couple of lvl.10 Arachnids along with lvl.130 Arachnid...
I don't even want to start thinking how it is going to be on Extreme difficulty.

 

[Harleyquin13]

Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

No, Last dungeon is perfectly fine, by the time I get to floor 100, average monster level is in 90-120 diapason. The thing I was talking about is Lightless road, content of the latest patch where you need to collect sacrifices in 6 ordinary dungeons (it's triggered by Restless Night memory, I think?)
I've gone there without extreme mode on, but as I've mentioned monster level scaling there is insane. What's more, it's not average level of monsters that is increased, but only some of them. E.g. Arachne lvl.25 summoning can summon a couple of lvl.10 Arachnids along with lvl.130 Arachnid...
I don't even want to start thinking how it is going to be on Extreme difficulty.

If you're referring to the sacrificial offerings in the regular dungeons, then they seem to spawn for me at an average of floor level 18-20. The worst one was level 30 for me (it's a 1-shot deal from what I can tell). Some of the monsters are fairly high level but any build which can handle level 300+ headless count 1-to-1 should be fine against the high-level mob monsters.

 

[Monceber]

Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

If you're referring to the sacrificial offerings in the regular dungeons, then they seem to spawn for me at an average of floor level 18-20. The worst one was level 30 for me (it's a 1-shot deal from what I can tell). Some of the monsters are fairly high level but any build which can handle level 300+ headless count 1-to-1 should be fine against the high-level mob monsters.

I beg to differ. With Spine blade (silence and immobilize, take away both his strong sides) headless count 1-to-1 is the least problem I could imagine (lvl.220 is the highest Count level kill for me, so maybe his difficulty spikes later) - with all the time I've spent in the border, there's no single downed record from him in my Roland's history. There's, however, like 10 or so for thos dang invisible minigunners, that tend to appear at the worst of the times. 1-on-1 count? Ha, nope, 1-on-1 + Iron Jack out of nowhere.
Well, that's in the Border where they have extended moves, so I guess you're right about it not being that hard as I may have thought.

then they seem to spawn for me at an average of floor level 18-20

That's quite deep, duh. Maybe my luck, but I managed to get all of the six without delving deeper than 7th floor :v

 

[Dragonpaladin]

Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

Well, I'm out of ideas. Good luck finding the best solution then DragonPaladin-senpai .

;-; will do my best.

With my main gear set I have it at 1, nevertheless my Roland can last very long, and even 100% bar doesn't explode her and I can still safely continue to explore

Mine explodes at 33% without passion beat at times. Guarantee if passion beat is on at 33%, lowest I tracked was 30% without passion beat. My guess is virginity matters.

but what's the deepest floor anyone of you reached in the Lightless road/path/whatever-it's-called? Because personally, I turned the tail around 18-ish floor, where level 150 monsters started to appear.

Light-less road wise, Harley's correct, I only got to early 20s on my farming/leveling gears. I got trolled on one of my rescue and have to dive pretty deep and got out alive afterwards. (Cheated with thread)
I don't really notice the mobs until they start having their auras, then they die faster than I expected when I get into melee. (Happens as early as floor 12?) otoh I recall they do HURT LIKE HELL. But the hp growth isn't as great as I expected.

I beg to differ. With Spine blade (silence and immobilize, take away both his strong sides) headless count 1-to-1 is the least problem I could imagine

I just spike count down in 3 turns max. Usually 2 turns. Unless I get into a bad engagement and got debuffed first.
Then I whimper and use an elixir like a noob depending on debuff.

Also, 1-to-1 against headless count usually mean I wipe everything around him first one way or another (or just ignore, since count is higher priority) good old BOE mobs me with at least 2 other units. Though they haven't mobbed me with 10+ (ignoring summoned mob) when count is on field for a while. (It's one of the situation that forces a sleep scroll from me)

Do note: I haven't encountered a Lv200+ Count yet. *wonders why Minotaurs get past Lv100 much easier than count*

 

[Monceber]

Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

Do note: I haven't encountered a Lv200+ Count yet. *wonders why Minotaurs get past Lv100 much easier than count*

Also, 1-to-1 against headless count usually mean I wipe everything around him first one way or another

That's why
You don't even give Count a chance to eat and get a bunch of levels, unlike me or (most likely) Harley.

 

[Dragonpaladin]

Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

That's why
You don't even give Count a chance to eat and get a bunch of levels, unlike me or (most likely) Harley.

When in a good engagement.
DROPS. INSCRIPTION. FOOD. ROLAND GO GO GO!

When exhausted and just wanna get it over with, or carrying the sacrifice and being hit with aphrodisiac.
FUDGE. CAKE. WHERE'S MY CAKE. ELIXIR. I AM OUT OF ELIXIR. I AM SCREWED AREN'T I. SCREW THIS LEORY JENKINS!
^ I have died exactly once to Headless count under the above condition, and I still remember it now. The count is ridiculous once all your weapons/clothing are red, and you don't have an elixir + sleep wand/scroll.
^ Also the only time I lost to Count in BOE

Yeah Monceber, you explained everything quite well why I haven't encountered high level headless count xD

 

[CrownLustre]

Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

Wait, did you carry the Sacrifice around all the time? Why don't you just Storm Stride (el-Cuelebre active skill), take the Sacrifice, move out of the purple-tangling-mass, after landing drop the Sacrifice on the ground, roam around like a boss, then after raiding the map, return to take the Sacrifice back and move on with your life?

P.s.: I think everyone knew, but just to point out, stacking the same effect have lesser effect by each stacks. Like using Ribbon-tie + Sane2 are less effective than using Silver-Collar + Sane2 essence, if you know what I mean. Sane2 essence have the same effect as Ribbon-tie.
eg.:
Ribbon-tie (50% resistance to sex)
+ Sane-2 (I think 40% resistance to sex)
= approximately 70% resistance to sex (and not 90%).

 

[Dragonpaladin]

Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

Ribbon-tie (50% resistance to sex)
+ Sane-2 (I think 40% resistance to sex)
= approximately 70% resistance to sex (and not 90%).

Diminishing return, I am aware of it.

roam around like a boss, then after raiding the map, return to take the Sacrifice back and move on with your life?

Because I have to go back and pick up the sacrifice again~ I am quite used to combat while carrying a sacrifice, and due to damage it doesn't affect me much.

Again, Aphrodisiac is the only issue I have with BOE. Which hopefully won't be as important once I get a Ribbon-tie.

 

[Darkstrain]

Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

i recently finished the game on normal difficulty (by finishing i mean defeat all the lords rescued all the people in the list and gaining access to your room)

now i have the chance of restarting with my equipment in hard mode, and i will, but before i do i want to know something:

does the quality of a *weapon dropped* increases in harder levels or as you go deeper into the dungeon?

i have a vanguard lance + 10 with 2 slots. do they drop with 4 slots? never seen one...

and what is the best way to get a weapon (or anything at all) to lv 30?

 

[Harleyquin13]

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does the quality of a *weapon dropped* increases in harder levels or as you go deeper into the dungeon?

i have a vanguard lance + 10 with 2 slots. do they drop with 4 slots? never seen one...

and what is the best way to get a weapon (or anything at all) to lv 30?

The deeper one goes, the better the loot.

Vanguard lancers only get a maximum of 2 slots.

You want lvl 30 weapons? You pay for it using scrolls and with the help of the dwarf blacksmith. No easy shortcuts outside of hacking the game.

 

[Monceber]

Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

No easy shortcuts outside of hacking the game.

Well, I would call a Divine ink a shortcut, actually. From my experience it can upgrade up to +3 level in one go (actually I've seen +5, but that was from feeding +30 item). Anyway, comparing using one shot of Ink against 13-15k cost of upgrading at dwarf's (not counting scrolls, ofc) former seems like a much more efficient way.
Going to the BOE with his current equipment set is separate topic, tho...

 

[Dragonpaladin]

Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

Well, I would call a Divine ink a shortcut, actually. From my experience it can upgrade up to +3 level in one go (actually I've seen +5, but that was from feeding +30 item). Anyway, comparing using one shot of Ink against 13-15k cost of upgrading at dwarf's (not counting scrolls, ofc) former seems like a much more efficient way.

5 tries with +3~+5 gears on collar. All failed to go from +26 to +27

Arguably
+0~+10 Using Upgrade Scrolls (100% chance of success) for upgrade
+11~+25 Using Black Smith
+20~+30 Spam Upgrade Scrolls (low chance of success, but sometimes reduce cost of upgrade) and then upgrade using black smith

Alternatively
+20~+30 Using Divine Ink (Due to cost)

After +20, it's a big deal with upgrade cost.

Note: Hard mode repair fees >>> normal mode. I been hit with 5k+ etc repair costs before. And hit 3k constantly even at yellow across my gears.

 

[Harleyquin13]

Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

Note: Hard mode repair fees >>> normal mode. I been hit with 5k+ etc repair costs before. And hit 3k constantly even at yellow across my gears.

This is why players who are patient and have lots of gear (like myself) don't go to hard mode straight away, farming etc and saving it for upgrades is easier in normal plus I didn't really lose out in terms of equipment finds.

If I had decided to jump to hard straight after beating the game the first time, there is no way I would have this much +30 equipment even with the hours I've put in.

 

[Harleyquin13]

Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

Well, I would call a Divine ink a shortcut, actually. From my experience it can upgrade up to +3 level in one go (actually I've seen +5, but that was from feeding +30 item). Anyway, comparing using one shot of Ink against 13-15k cost of upgrading at dwarf's (not counting scrolls, ofc) former seems like a much more efficient way.
Going to the BOE with his current equipment set is separate topic, tho...

Level 1 item fed +30 item of exactly the same item type = +13 after fusion.

That's the equivalent of 10-12 scrolls and an upgrade at the dwarf. It saves perhaps an hour of playing time grinding out the equipment but not much else.

There's also the issue of some players not possessing the minimum quality of gear required to actually get the ink off the portal.

 

[CrownLustre]

Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

Level 1 item fed +30 item of exactly the same item type = +13 after fusion.

There's also the issue of some players not possessing the minimum quality of gear required to actually get the ink off the portal.

Yeah, I also get +13 from a single upgrade using ink, but only from Armory-15+ with UnderArmor-0. Though I forcefully shut it down due to some problem with my computer, then when I reload, I did the same thing but it only upgrade uptil +10 or so... From the previous patch on Normal anyway.

Oh yeah, I might be mistaken, but I think storing your Hobby item in your own bag pack are better then storing them in the Wooden Chest or Donation Box Chest does, since storing inside the backpack expand the total luggage but not when inside the chests... Right?

 

[devilknight1983]

Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

When I open game, it says "Dawnload most recent version from DLsite, or extract it again" can anyone help me?

 

[Harleyquin13]

Re: MaiDenSnow Eve

Yeah, I also get +13 from a single upgrade using ink, but only from Armory-15+ with UnderArmor-0. Though I forcefully shut it down due to some problem with my computer, then when I reload, I did the same thing but it only upgrade uptil +10 or so... From the previous patch on Normal anyway.

Oh yeah, I might be mistaken, but I think storing your Hobby item in your own bag pack are better then storing them in the Wooden Chest or Donation Box Chest does, since storing inside the backpack expand the total luggage but not when inside the chests... Right?

Hobby item?! If you're referring to the category of items that includes the veil, alice band etc. then yes you're supposed to keep them in inventory.