Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

[TieSKey]

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I can do every map 3 star easy as including the 90/12 it's just that was the only map I have actually farmed.

I love Shidis my first plat healer and has been with me since I started playing nearly but I am now looking for someone to replace her.

I have in regards to healers.
Black priest Iris AW
Platnium Priest Shidis AW
Platnium priest Camilla (Nearly AW)
Platnium Priest Sara
Gold priest Iris AW
Gold priest Fedora can AW

Also have Dragon shaman Echinda but too expensive for normal use.

I am just trying to replace Shidis so I can have a balanced set of healers that can replace each other if I need to.

Some maps require me to not use Shidis in some spots because she is too squishy and that annoys me.

At the moment I normally run 3 healers on my clear team.
Black Priest Iris
Platnium Priest Shidis
Gold Priest Iris

As soon as I can AW camilla I will replace gold iris with her so its just trying to get rid of shidis and her low survivability at the moment.

Holy sh... u have almost all healers out there XD

So... farming the 90/12 will get u to 1500 with a lot less crystals, like 30 or even less.
That's a lot more reasonable for a black unit.


Edit: Does the choco stamina refill stack like the one from crystals?

 

[Petite Soeur]

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Edit: Does the choco stamina refill stack like the one from crystals?

Yes, they do.

@Aarkken:
Anna gives you one chocolate per day for six days, and you get 3 chocolates from your female units on Valentine's Day. You can scroll back to an earlier post if you want to know how to manipulate who gives you chocolates if you want to be weird, and keep them in your present box forever and ever. Hypothetical scenario: You wind up in prison and none of your friends or family visit you because you've been such a jerk to them, you can pull out your Android and go to your Millennium War Aegis present box to remind yourself that so-and-so gave you chocolates. Congratulations! You're the best~!

 

[Anelai]

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@Fruit, gz on your Witch

@Aarkken, Marcus, holy fuck how you calculated it? Using 75 sacred crystals to farm 1500 healing crystals? That is impossible! I used 15 and at the end of 1st week I had 600 doing only 50/7 map.

@others, please cross fingers for me. I wrote to dmm about this crazy change with payment and gift certificate I cant convert to points. I hope they will help me they are not cheap and I does not have credit card :/ paypal does not work I suppose?

 

[marcus3708]

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Holy sh... u have almost all healers out there XD

So... farming the 90/12 will get u to 1500 with a lot less crystals, like 30 or even less.
That's a lot more reasonable for a black unit.


Edit: Does the choco stamina refill stack like the one from crystals?

comparing 90/12 to 50/7 it isnt much better 84 stamina I think thats the best number to use would get 132 from 50/7 vs 147 from 90/12 my stamina is at 14 so thats 6 crystals for me to get 84 stamina if your stamina was a bit higher say 16 5.25 crystals Id say about 54 crystals for me to make 1500 of the event stones would put me at 1200 and I think the rest would be filled with natural stamina close estimate of the comparison to the 90/12 map just multiply by .898 which is 48.5 crystals. I think to compare high stamina number you could just take my 14 stamina and divide by the stamina amount you have so if you had 16 you'd 14/16 = .875 then multiply those crystal amounts up there which come from my 14 stamina by .875 and I believe that would give the approximate amount to reach 1200 event stones for 16 max stamina and the rest should be filled by natural stamina again as long as you have been running at least 50/7 so far and continue to run it with all of your natural stamina.

So that's about 44~54 crystals for someone with 14-16 max stamina including the ability to run 90/12 or not I can't see how you got 30 or less crystals. this is my lazy math so correct me if I'm wrong or made any mistakes I would of just assumed it'd take 75 crystals if you hadn't said anything

@others, please cross fingers for me. I wrote to dmm about this crazy change with payment and gift certificate I cant convert to points. I hope they will help me they are not cheap and I does not have credit card :/ paypal does not work I suppose?

if you have a paypal credit card maybe if not you could buy webmoney from cn-usa with paypal and then convert that into dmm points using a vpn but they charge about 20-30% extra Ive done this a couple times

 

[exkale]

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24 * 20 * 7 = 3360 charisma in a week

First Phase (50/7):
24 x 7 = 168 stamina (24 runs)
24 * 11 = 264 fragments

3360 - (24 * 50) = 2160 charisma to use for stamina restoration
2160 / 50 = 43 runs to do with natural charisma if you restore stamina (17~20 sacred crystals)
43 * 11 = 473 fragments

Second Phase (90/12):
168 / 12 = 14 runs
14 * 22 = 308 fragments

3360 - (14 * 90) = 2100 charisma to use for stamina restoration
2100 / 90 = 23~ runs to do with natural charisma if you restore stamina (15~18 sacred crystals)
23 * 22 = 506 fragments

Restoration timings will decrease these numbers. This is just assuming someone is trying to be perfect, but in reality, it's not possible. There may be mistakes and errors because I did this quickly, but the minimum is around 35 if someone is diligent enough to do it like this and can easily clear the missions without mistakes.

 

[Aarkken]

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@Petite

Ah so anna gives you 1 every day across the event but come valentines day whatever unit it selects gives you some as well, that makes sense.

I like anna giving the prince chocolates though I think it fits more than any of the other units to be honest.

@Anelai
I did some very simple maths that may be %100 wrong,
11 healing crystals per 50/7 map
x2 runs with my 17 total stamina (I didnt bother counting the remaining stamina in my case 3)
so 22 per Sacred crystal
~100 HC per 5 SC
~500 HC per 25 SC
~1500 HC = ~75 SC

Very basic, doesnt include my leftover stamina, that additional 1 healing crystal per run, or any sacred crystals used on Charisma.

Finally managed 500/500 on the monster island I kept making stupid mistakes and letting 1 unit through or some other trvial error.

My MVP for this one has to go to Minerva as a single unit and to all my soldiers and HA for being the wall on which the enemy breaks themselves.

 

[arisato minato]

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After some test today I can at least confirm that during Riana skill duration, your unit will gain immunity to stun.

Tried using my Katie and prince to tank the tentacle monsters on both lane. For a whole 15s, Katie tank 3 tentacle monsters and prince tank one without getting stunned once.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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After some test today I can at least confirm that during Riana skill duration, your unit will gain immunity to stun.

Tried using my Katie and prince to tank the tentacle monsters on both lane. For a whole 15s, Katie tank 3 tentacle monsters and prince tank one without getting stunned once.

I figured, but I didn't want to say it 100% since I didn't know how their stun worked exactly. Good to know/have some better confirmation, my units didn't hold them as long as that. Thanks for the info.

Going so hard on her now~

 

[Tasogare]

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newbie question here :>
whats the right way to use faeries?? i think it says iron faerie or something when i go to feed my girls

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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newbie question here :>
whats the right way to use faeries?? i think it says iron faerie or something when i go to feed my girls

A bit vague here.

Use the same rarity fairy as the character you're leveling for a 2-8x multiplier bonus. Example: Feeding gold rarity Iris 3 gold fairy or feeding silver rarity Alisa 3 silver fairies at a time, along with the unit worth exp you're feeding to them. Don't use plat fairies on silver units for example, it's a massive waste.

Also preemptive: Don't Class Change units at 30, you should wait till 50. I almost wish that they'd just take out the ability to class change units before 50, so many newbie mistakes...

 

[Tasogare]

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A bit vague here.

Use the same rarity fairy as the character you're leveling for 2-8x bonus. Example: Feeding gold rarity Iris 3 gold fairy or feeding silver rarity Alisa 3 silver fairies at a time (Along with the unit you're feeding to them). Don't use plat fairies on silver units for example.

Also preemptive: Don't Class Change units at 30, you should wait till 50. I almost wish that they'd just take out the ability to class change units before 50, so many newbie mistakes...

lol, so if their used on a diff rank then its 0 exp... so thats why they wernt giving my healer any exp XD

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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lol, so if their used on a diff rank then its 0 exp... so thats why they wernt giving my healer any exp XD

No they won't be worth 0 exp even if you use the wrong rarity and feed properly, the only way they're worth 0 exp is if you didn't feed a unit with it as well lol. Fairies are exp multipliers only, if you don't also feed a unit worth exp along with them, they're COMPLETELY useless lol. It's not like Flower Knight Girl.

For silver units for example you'd want to wait till at least level 30 to start using silver fairies on it since you can get to 30 easily with just iron and bronze units.

Then you'd level a level 3 bronze from Rural Gate (田園の門 - The map you should be farming) with level 3 irons to level 10 (It takes 6 level 3 irons if I remember right).

Feed 3 silver fairies and that level 10 bronze at the same time for around 1k exp.

That's just like the general rule to follow, eventually you'll know what you're doing.

 

[arisato minato]

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@Tasogare: Fairies provides x2 exp bonus when feed to unit with the same rarity. Ex: feed 3 iron unit with 50 exp each to a bronze unit will give the bronze unit 150 exp. Feed 3 iron unit and a bronze fairy to a bronze unit will give 300 exp.
The bonus multiply so 1 fairy gives x2 exp, 3 fairies give x4, 3 fairies give x8.

Feed Fairy to unit with different rarity will only provide x1.5 bonus exp.

You can easily see it if you try to feed fairy to a unit.

Their are many kind of fairy with different rairty.

Common fairy are Iron, Bronze, Silver, Gold, Platinum and Black.
Those are used to provide exp bonus and Class Change to unit with Silver or above rarity with corresponding rairty

Special fairy are fairy that cannot used to Class changed and provide no exp bonus when fuse like:

Rainbow fairy : black rarity, have a chance to increase your unit skill level by 1 when fuse. Cannot be used together with other fairies.

Time fairy : black rarity, have a chance to decrease your unit deployment cost by 1 b=when fuse. Used to class change Black Unit Dragonewt Drania to Black Unit Dragon Princess Anya. Cannot be used together with other fairy.

Happy fairy: black rairty, give your unit 2 milion exp IIRC when fused. Cannot be used together with other unit.

Awakening fairy: black rarity, used to Awaken unit with Gold rarity or above.

And the new fairy with i have no idea what is her use.


@Fruit: I know it is late but congratulation on having your first AW99 unit. That 1600+ atk and that big black cat are too awesome.

 

[daturtle]

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A bit vague here.

Use the same rarity fairy as the character you're leveling for a 2-8x multiplier bonus. Example: Feeding gold rarity Iris 3 gold fairy or feeding silver rarity Alisa 3 silver fairies at a time, along with the unit worth exp you're feeding to them. Don't use plat fairies on silver units for example, it's a massive waste.

Also preemptive: Don't Class Change units at 30, you should wait till 50. I almost wish that they'd just take out the ability to class change units before 50, so many newbie mistakes...

Awakening unit's would be too much of a pain in the ass then. having to CC the silvers first and all.

 

[Tasogare]

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oo... so iron faeries are basically useless?? also those black faeries.... >.> op.... oh well, back to farming cards and gold... im still way too low to do anything

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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Awakening unit's would be too much of a pain in the ass then. having to CC the silvers first and all.

Yeah, only thing going for it. I just wish they'd warn you better. You could easily show the difference between a 30cc and 50cc with just images. Then again, I think someone mentioned that even Japanese players fall for early class changes.

oo... so iron faeries are basically useless??

Pretty much, bronzes aren't much better. They sell fairly well though. Of course you should never waste gold/plat/black fairies until you know what you're doing. Silver fairies are extremely helpful but they're also easy to acquire, so not much problem if you aren't super efficient about how you feed them to your silver units.

 

[exkale]

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@FruitSmoothie
I believe it's more efficient to feed 2 bronze units + 2 silver fairies. Because we're able to obtain high level bronze units without having to feed iron units, they're more readily available compared to fairies.

1x Lv12 Bronze + 3x Fairies = 1,000 exp (125 x 8)
2x Lv12 Bronze + 2x Fairies = 1,000 exp ((125 + 125) x 4)

It's possible to get 15 silver fairies a day if you farm that map with all your stamina. With 15 fairies, you'll earn 2,000 more experience using 2 fairies for every 2 bronze (7 x 2 fairies/2 bronze) compared to using 3 fairies for every bronze (5 x 3 fairies/1 bronze).

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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Ugh, forgot about maintenance after I woke up. Going to lose charisma from this. It's 2 hours long and is scheduled to end at 15:00 Japan time V

@FruitSmoothie
I believe it's more efficient to feed 2 bronze units + 2 silver fairies. Because we're able to obtain high level bronze units without having to feed iron units, they're more readily available compared to fairies.

1x Lv12 Bronze + 3x Fairies = 1,000 exp (125 x 8)
2x Lv12 Bronze + 2x Fairies = 1,000 exp (125 + 125 x 4)

It's possible to get 15 silver fairies a day if you farm that map with all your stamina. With 15 fairies, you'll earn 2,000 more experience using 2 fairies for every 2 bronze (7 x 2 fairies/2 bronze) compared to using 3 fairies for every bronze (5 x 3 fairies/1 bronze).

Might be, I don't know how early the lower level players can access high level bronzes from story missions since I was already high level by the time the Story Mission update happened. I know a lot of old maps got their drop levels buffed. I just level units to 50 with irons and bronzes only by farming the 30 cost desert map (焦熱のオアシス) afterall lol. I only use fairies on units at 50 or higher now.

The longer you play this game, the harder it is to give newbie advice lol. Your perspective becomes skewed. It's why I stopped making quick guides for new maps before people had a chance to upload videos. I wonder how they'll deal with the gap between new and old players in the future when it extends even further.

Pretty sure Petite or someone posted an updated fairy/exp guide for that update somewhere.

 

[arisato minato]

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Does anyone have new on the sudden maintenance ?

 

[exkale]

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Petite made a post a few pages back, but it's easily missed:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=644037&postcount=6784

@arisato
Thanks for testing out Liana's skill! I'm glad that the crystals spent to obtain her will be worth it because 15 seconds of stun immunity is going to be wonderful to have.

@FruitSmoothie
I believe the earliest you can obtain a level 10 unit is from a mission that costs 23 charisma. It's also the map where the black HA appears. The earliest you can get to the map is by level 12 if players are savvy enough. Clearing it is another thing...