Aegis Thousand Year War - DMM Online Game

[bladeguy]

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Joke is still over my head. You are going to have to spell it out to me.

 

[Petite Soeur]

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@Altrius:
Already did transcriptions and translations for most of Ipa's Parody songs

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.

@bladeguy:
I already gave you the ASCII face. In the off-chance this board mangled it too much,

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. The face is so iconic that Japanese players were putting it on their shirts and stuff...


Spoilers for Upcoming Maintenance:
-Revival Mission "Secret Magic Technique" (魔術の秘法) Begins on Sat-Sun (11-12th).
-Platinum Mage Odette (Skill 1/16; Increases magic resistance to all allies).

Secret Magic Technique Banner:

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[Anelai]

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Spoilers for Upcoming Maintenance:
-Revival Mission "Secret Magic Technique" (魔術の秘法) Begins on Sat-Sun (11-12th).
-Platinum Mage Odette (Skill 1/16; Increases magic resistance to all allies).

THANK YOU AEGIS! Revival I don't need* just when I will be offline in the internet <3 Now make some not interesting event or star trial and I will love you forever and forget this faux pas from Inari event!

* I have min cost and 8/16 skill Odette with lvl 30, from her previous revival and gold rushes. I may try to far her a bit for this half day before I will leave. But this is seriously awesome news. I was stressed out that Aegis-sama will give us something awesome I wont be able to farm...

 

[Creeping Terror]

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>inb4 Event is for Black Knight Bro

My odette is a lil girlly girly. She needs some farming, for certainly, so this makes me happy.

On another note, I am unhappy with how little I use Claudia for the Subjugation map....Its not that she's a bad choice, just that Crissa's better in the primary dueling spot to get the sortie, and now that Lidy drinks the souls of her enemies as she whirls death about her head, she's an even better-er choice for that spot. *Snuggs Claudia* I still love you, Claudia ._.

 

[theshadowm]

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Ehh...

That sounds like an incredibly useless event unit. Well, good occasionally because you can combine it with a MR lightning rod against very high matk enemies but that honestly seems way too situational. My second mage is Mehlis whose skill isn't all that great either but... at least she's cuter.

 

[Anelai]

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>inb4 Event is for Black Knight Bro

Noes! They can do this in 2 weeks, no sooner.

events we had lately:

drop increase
gold rush
item trial (Serra)
star trial (Paula)
drop increase
star trial (Sandra)
farm (Miranda)
item trial (Nagi)
drop increase
gold rush
star trial (Eden)
farm (Corinne)

So there will be probably farm event but I see big chance in star trial. Please let it be star trial....

 

[Altrius]

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No no no no just no.....
Oddete have 2 higher cost compared to other platinum mage.
Of coz this higher cost reflected for her to have slightly more atk compared to other plat mage...
I think her main use is that skill that reduce spell dmg to all ur unit, but deploying her is such a pain (we know mage high cost and this +2 than normal) and geting her skill to lvl up is even more painful

I will use her event map for free SC farm luckily its only 2 day event

Btw i believe dmg formula oddete skill is more like lets say a unit with 20 MR and oddete max skill -20% dmg reduction.... 100 - 20%(MR) = 80 -20%(oddete skill) = 64... Not straight -40% = 60 dmg

 

[theshadowm]

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Reading information on wiki, I guess she has more attack than other units to make up for things. Didn't think she'd actually have more attack than Paula. Her CC'd max atk is equal to an AW'd Mehlis, however Mehlis does get the attack speed boost... whether or not it's enough to make up for it is questionable, to begin with I don't intend to AW her anytime soon anyway...

However her increased cost is bothering as well. If she's going to be used, it sounds best if she's at least CR-3. I don't know, maybe I should actually farm her depending on what the next event turns out to be.

 

[Anelai]

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Ehh...

That sounds like an incredibly useless event unit. Well, good occasionally because you can combine it with a MR lightning rod against very high matk enemies but that honestly seems way too situational. My second mage is Mehlis whose skill isn't all that great either but... at least she's cuter.

Don't underestimate Odette.

With her magic resistance she was awesome unit when only few characters had magic resistance themselves. she was like main unit in 3 liches maps.
Also, she has really awesome stats.

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before her copies were giving some terrible amout of EXP but it was changed to normal exp just a while ago (I am too lazy to find Petite post about it).

I don't like Odette looks but I want to lvl her someday. When AW'd she gots 10 more Magic resist so she may be playing as magic rod sometimes. Plus her skill - she will be getting no damage at all.

DON'T UNDERESTIMATE POWER OF BUTTERFLIES!


EDIT:

My Mehlis was 35 cost forever until just week ago when she got -1 cost. That was the same as Odette on min cost. But Odette is platinum so her stats are much better... She is more situational than normal mage but she is a powerful member of a team. Remember that every event girl has higher base cost than same class from gacha. But cost reducing event girl is actually easier than doing the same with gacha one. Keep that in mind.

 

[Altrius]

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Q: whos willing to to farm oddete for that max stat as you only have 2 days to do it with 1/16 skill....

While she might be great if we able to manage get her on her full stat..... its kind of impossible for me >.<
Btw just curious... will she be ok tanking with that low hp ? even its magic dmg it still hurt afterall if there multiple source hitting her at same time.
I felt nowday for magic tanker we are more into high hp high heal style (well most of time is valk / bandt / princess job *since i'm sux using angel*) *brute force faction raise ur hand*

Edit: i don't mean anything in slightest about she being useless as her skill able to support other unit.... but the problem i guess is the time to farm her is 2 days, and her high skill + the need to CR her.....
As we start from 0, it is problematic to get her skill up and CR within short time + i think most of us will use the weekend time more to the original main event.

 

[theshadowm]

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She sounds questionable to use as a lightning rod even with her MR. Would prefer to use one with more hp and I have no shortage of good MR units with Chloe and Esther.

I am, however, attracted by her stats. To begin with I barely use Paula's skill as well so there's no real reason to drop her just because I won't use her skill often. Heck, her skill might actually be more useful than Paula's depending on the map since it applies for the entire team, it'd help against enemy mages that go around blasting everyone. Also at least she looks slightly better after AW!

Edit: When thinking about it, aren't we also scheduled to get a Moldevort revival event....? So many event mages, I want an event unit in a class I don't have.

 

[Petite Soeur]

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Ehh...

That sounds like an incredibly useless event unit. Well, good occasionally because you can combine it with a MR lightning rod against very high matk enemies but that honestly seems way too situational. My second mage is Mehlis whose skill isn't all that great either but... at least she's cuter.

Odette is a utility mage like Sasha and the bishop class. Her primary purpose is her high base attack stat. Odette hits hard immediately upon deployment, and doesn't need any skills to buff it so she's relevant like Moldevort. After she awakens, Odette has 20% magic resistance, making it so she's most magically resistant ranged unit in the game, which can be further amplified with her skill. So long as the enemy can't one or two-shot her, Odette puts the least amount of stress on your silver or low level healers, and makes doing maps with demon lords, liches, mummy priests, and dragonewt elders much more manageable.

Odette has one failing: her high cost. Without any cost reductions, she's going to be 40, and then 35 at mincost, which is the same as full cost gold mage. My Odette is at 38, so I had to replace her with my mincost 33 Gold Bishop Noel, and I only bring Odette if I need a 3rd range magical AoE unit, which is rare.

Depending on her Skill AW, Odette's second failing is going to be her 1/16 skill. Unless you suffer from a syndrome where you must max out the skill of every unit in your possession, then it's just a simple matter of farming enough copies to level Odette to 50CC~ and then stopping, since it's her attack stat that you really need unless you have other utility characters in which case, you probably should just pass through Odette's maps for the crystals because there are other mages everywhere.

All of this said, Odette is one of the coolest characters in the game. She's a vestige filled with brambled flower branches and blue butterflies that casually fires off her fireballs like

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. Odette's illustrator,

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, is the same person who did Chloe, Cecily, and B. Iris, and he has a wonderful sense of humour. He does little joke comics about his characters based on their events like this one during Odette's Halloween Revival:

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Odette's trick is actually a bug that happened during her original event.

 

[Altrius]

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Spoiler

Odette's trick is actually a bug that happened during her original event.

If this were to happen she will be put straigh in the storeage and left picking dust...
Question: how it felt to max her skill lvl ?

PS: i got a good idea what to use oddeter for...... exp fodder for mage she just got her base exp increase afterall 100-->500 in last maintenance

 

[Anelai]

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today is good day.

I wont miss any good revival when I am gone, just dinged 191 and AW Maurette.

Becaouse of last one I have a question: how you order your AW Maurette and AW Betty on base struggle 2 to be most efficient?

 

[theshadowm]

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Odette's illustrator,

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, is the same person who did Chloe, Cecily, and B. Iris, and he has a wonderful sense of humour. He does little joke comics about his characters based on their events like this one during Odette's Halloween Revival:

Spoiler

Odette's trick is actually a bug that happened during her original event.

Eh that's... surprising. Didn't notice they shared the same illustrator.

In any case I see her appeal, I think she'll end up fighting Paula for her position as a mage depending on the contents of the map with Moldevort taking up the second slot once her revival is released. Seeing as Lian has become a regular in my team and Despia already uses the same skill, I see no issue in having even more skill based units.

Will try to get a few copies of her regardless just because of my lesson with Lian who I thought would be useless but then suddenly jumped into being a regular member of my team right after her event ended. Sigh, still wish I bothered to -CR her even though 14 cost isn't that bad to cope with.

 

[TieSKey]

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>
On another note, I am unhappy with how little I use Claudia for the Subjugation map....Its not that she's a bad choice, just that Crissa's better in the primary dueling spot to get the sortie, and now that Lidy drinks the souls of her enemies as she whirls death about her head, she's an even better-er choice for that spot. *Snuggs Claudia* I still love you, Claudia ._.

Bound to happen if the devs just give a duelist a dmg boost against flyers, ranged and swarming mobs :S

Depending on her Skill AW, Odette's second failing is going to be her 1/16 skill. Unless you suffer from a syndrome where you must max out the skill of every unit in your possession, then it's just a simple matter of farming enough copies to level Odette to 50CC~ and then stopping, since it's her attack stat that you really need unless you have other utility characters in which case, you probably should just pass through Odette's maps for the crystals because there are other mages everywhere.

Let's hope having the highest max skill lvl in the game give the devs reason enough to make her aw skill awesome..... I would follow the lines of the black mage and make so that it increases MR by 10% while decreases enemies MR by 20% or so...

 

[Petite Soeur]

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Raijin: "Damned cursed skeletonssss!!!"

Despite the limit per character nerf, skeletons still ruined Raijin's day.

@TieSKey:
Odette could by all means raise everyone's magic resistance by 50% for 20 seconds without being broken; Immortal Queen Karma can already do this for 13~ seconds in her own special way.

 

[theshadowm]

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^ Stuff like that really makes me want a necromancer.

 

[Altrius]

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Ever since 3rd story map out, where ppl use those skel to be those lihting rod targeted from tengu i been wanting necromacer for a long time.
And after that you know the time necromancer's skel being used keep going on and on make me sad that i don't have any necromancer at all >.<

Well at least i got eden and sandra..... if i start aigis any later wthout these 2 unit its more nightmare to even have a starting line

 

[theshadowm]

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... I don't have either of those as well though.

Time to sulk. A-at least I have my Chloe!

Edit: Going through AW skills in wiki out of curiosity since the possibility of working on AW came out before... uh... did Esther's skill actually get buffed? I seem to remember that before her skill was 1.3x attack or something and half def but now:

Defense lowers to 0.8, attack increases to 1.5, 60 seconds of flying time. Combined with her passive that increases skill time of all pegasus riders by 50%, 90 seconds of skill time. She has a maximum of 761 attack, multiplied by the skill means she'll be flying around with 1140 attack which can still be multiplied further by things like prince buff.

Reading the comments, apparently Esther

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and some people write her as a decent replacement for Sandra(not clear what role Sandra has to begin with since I don't have her though) if you don't have her. Not as many people seem to care about her ability to hit things blocked by another unit and seems to place more importance in what sort of units can manage to walk past her without dying (mostly armored units and of course bosses).

Well... seems pretty damn strong though it's not as useful against single target(e.g. boss) without a blocker backing her up. The skill only has 40 second CD as well, combined with Lian she can easily spend most of the time in the sky. Too bad 22 cost is a little heavy to throw out right at the beginning or else it would be my solution to coping with rush maps.

Still pondering about Despia's AW skill though. According to new calculations, it's more like around 26% more DPS compared to her original skill unlike the original 15% that was written. On the other hand, her skill duration drops 15 seconds to 30s and CD increases by 25s. Honestly feel a bit like it's not worth it, although it is good for trying to gun things down asap (e.g. during rushes).