SIM [Illusion] Artifical Academy 2 / ジンコウガクエン2

[MajinLuffy]

Re: [Illusion] Artifical Academy 2

Not sex. Probably just kissing or touching. I already got to talk to her again, but it's reeeeally hard.

I'm still stuck trying the masochist thing. I just get 0% and in the statue they have blue status with things like "hate my guts" or something like that. Some questions:

Do I need the Evil trait?
Does she needs Masochist AND Exploitable traits? I think I read that Masochist includes the Exploitable trait.
If she's just Exploitable can I force her to do stuff too?
Even if they hate me, do I have to keep trying until it changes to something like "hate but love" or first do I have to be really good friends with her before trying to force her stuff? I don't really have that much of a relationship with the ones I tried, more friendly than friends.

 

[KHTA]

Re: [Illusion] Artifical Academy 2

Not sex. Probably just kissing or touching. I already got to talk to her again, but it's reeeeally hard.

I'm still stuck trying the masochist thing. I just get 0% and in the statue they have blue status with things like "hate my guts" or something like that. Some questions:

Do I need the Evil trait?
Does she needs Masochist AND Exploitable traits? I think I read that Masochist includes the Exploitable trait.
If she's just Exploitable can I force her to do stuff too?
Even if they hate me, do I have to keep trying until it changes to something like "hate but love" or first do I have to be really good friends with her before trying to force her stuff? I don't really have that much of a relationship with the ones I tried, more friendly than friends.

Do you need Evil to force? Not that I've seen but it may allow to force girls without Maso Exploit trait.
Do you need Maso and Exploit to force? I have a girl with just Exploit and I was able to force her.
Sentence about raising relationship to force? Nope, from what I seen you only need exploit but I'll test out maso as well. I just think maso makes it so that you don't lose relationship points for being forceful or mean to the person. The same girl I mentioned before hates my guts and I can still force her into sex. She and I were on good relationship and I was able to force her into sex. I even created a new school to test and even with no relationship at all I was able to force her.

 

[MajinLuffy]

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I finally got to force a girl, thing is, she basically says no to everything else. I was hoping the relationship to change after a good sex session but I can't make her to follow me around, so I have to sex her up pretty much where I find her, and always someone stops me...she's just exploitable so that's probably why even though I can force her the relationship pretty much went south...I still think that it will change after having good sex, the bubbles (dark pink) when they are forced are different from pure dislike (light blue) and the message first message was something like "I hate it but.." and now "he's pure trash...", not really convincing messages. My guess is, after good sex it will change to "Hate but love". Let's see if they let me get away with it

 

[Sarav]

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I finally got to force a girl, thing is, she basically says no to everything else. I was hoping the relationship to change after a good sex session but I can't make her to follow me around, so I have to sex her up pretty much where I find her, and always someone stops me...she's just exploitable so that's probably why even though I can force her the relationship pretty much went south...I still think that it will change after having good sex, the bubbles (dark pink) when they are forced are different from pure dislike (light blue) and the message first message was something like "I hate it but.." and now "he's pure trash...", not really convincing messages. My guess is, after good sex it will change to "Hate but love". Let's see if they let me get away with it

I thought pink hearts means the girl likes it and the blue hearts means the guy likes it? I'm pretty sure that's it because you can get both at the same time.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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I posted a huge explanation of how force option works already x.X

You do NOT need Maso on a girl to force her, it actually doesn't seem to make it much easier. Instead of just "Worse than trash" if you keep forcing a girl, you'll get "Hate that I love them" at max of using it (It's still a negative opinion of you, different from "Hate but love") if she has Maso. This allows you to still converse/h interaction with the girl at decent chance, but she won't seek you out herself for any interactions (At least not if you ignore chatting with her).

Without Maso, you'll eventually end up with the 0% interactions on everything and there's no way that she'll follow you. You also do NOT need evil trait. All that is required is exploitable.

Blue hearts = You enjoy the sex, Pink hearts = Partner enjoys the sex. It doesn't matter how well the sex goes if you force a girl (Without maso), she'll still hate you for it. Don't let the happy orgasms or sex position unlocks fool you.

 

[theaq44]

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He's talking about the short term status you can see at the statue. I'm not really sure how much it affects gameplay. I'm guessing the light green "I'm curious" status makes raising friend and love points easier. Not really sure what "normalfags go die" is; maybe they just want you to stop bugging them for a while.

On a separate note. Hot dang it's hard to get the teacher to a love status. She done the " Show them that" interaction once or twice, but I still can't get her past green. I think it's teachers just gain their love points at a much slower rate. Come to think of it, how do the special yellow relationships affect your standing with the teacher and vice versa?

 

[HentaiProdigy]

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It's all right sir/madam, I'm sure as long as you keep trying and skanking it out, some fine gentleman will mistreat you and then make you preggo so you can both enjoy a nice pasta dinner. But seriously, try giving the person the evil trait, give yourself the exploitable trait.

I've tried the evil trait as well. All that does is make them pissed and eventually kill someone. I really hope Illusion, or some skilled modder, releases something like the AAXplay launcher for the first game, and hopefully it has an option to up the chances for different things, such as rape.

 

[MajinLuffy]

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Yeah, after a session of playing I figured out that Masochist doesn't include the Exploitable effect and that's what I'm also understanding from FruitSmoothie. And yeah, I meant the bubble colors when checking the statue.

I have 2 girls with Maso and 1 with Exploitable. None with both. The Maso Girls™ always get 0% when trying to force them and just end up hating me. Light blue color, things like "1000 deaths isn't enough", "Worse than Trash", etc. The Exploitable Girl don't fall for it normally with the first try but she does have minimum 3% when I try the first time and then it gets easier with each try (60%, 100ish%, 999%) she too seems to "hate" me but the bubble is dark pink...or kind of light purple...and the messages makes me think that she hates me but enjoys it. The exploitable girl right now has a purplish bubble that says "lowest of trash...", at some point it changed to something like "hate but like...", but it changed back to "lowest of trash...". I think that happened because I left her alone for a few days.

I got confused because on the wiki it says that Maso includes Exploitable. Also it says that with Maso you gain relationship points abusing her...my guess is that you get points on successful force tries, meaning that Maso is pointless without Exploitation since apparently you can't successfully force a girl without it, meaning you only get negative points for trying.

Changing subject...I'm having a hard time improving strength and popular. Specially popular. On a tips guide on the wiki it says to always choose Work Hard, it seems to work at first but now I mostly get a bad sound when I choose it, Work normally seems to always work but it increases sloooooowly...anyone knows how does that works? I think Work Hard tends to....work...better after training with someone higher ranked than you. For popular, I'm always getting everyone to lunch or rest after periods and end periods fast so they don't get to mingle too much but still...I'm rank 19th...
My main char just has easygoing and lucky, but I rolled it with highest intelligence, strength and social. I did start pretty up the ranks, but I focused a lot of time at the beginning on getting the teacher, now I got her but I got left behind on the ranks and seems like I never go up no matter how much I study or exercise...

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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I think popularity is all in how well you're doing in relationships compared to others. Honestly to do extremely well with that, either most your class has to be a bit anti social, or you might have to spread negative rumors about the people who are doing well socially. If most your class is socially adept, it can be almost impossible though, a couple weeks into most my games and everybody is usually all positives with multiple people in love with them, it's pretty rough. It could also have to do with club activities since they aren't athletic or studying, so maybe doing group or individual club activities can raise it.

My MC is all average all around the board (I like a bit of a challenge) and I'm slightly above average in popularity, all the girls in my class have a slightly better than average or good opinion of me because I try to talk to everybody a little. I think that helps. I also do a lot of group activities, but I think you only get points with the 3 people it chooses for you out of the group, so it's unreliable. I think it chooses the 3 people who already like you the most as well, so it doesn't help with raising low relationship scores if it's a big group.

Strength and smarts you just need to spend your extra time in the library studying or in the field exercising. Working hard usually only works once a period, then you can fail it. It's good to balance working hard and working normally. Sometimes working quick gets a big bonus too, it might be if you're tired already. You really need to grind either of them a tremendous amount to see improvements though, your social skills will fall, that's mostly unavoidable. It took me like a week to get my study scores up a bit, going to the library 5+ times day.

I do think studying or exercising with someone who is good at it helps, but it's difficult to test since I think it factors in your relationship with that person as well. Sometimes I get big successes with people who aren't very good at the task and sometimes I fail with people who are the best at it. Then there's the time I tried to study with the smartest girl in my class, who is also my loving girlfriend and somehow failed, so figure that out though I think it was because the "Let's study" success was only about 60%, so try to study with people who enjoy studying (Chivalrous, Groupie, Diligent, maybe Smart personality)

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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I think Work Hard tends to....work...better after training with someone higher ranked than you.

Due to high starting stats like my PC, you cannot use work hard outside of clubs and group activity. Doing otherwise will put your PC immediately to sleep. This applies to taking it easy as well.
Normal barely increase your stats, but doesn't decrease it either ...
Hence, to increase your intelligence rank, you have to work hard with someone higher intelligence ranking than you, preferably the teacher which has bonus in this regard.
Still, while rank 2 in sports, my PC's rank 10ish for intelligence ... worked too hard in clubs and exercises D: I should go join the tea club.

For popular, I'm always getting everyone to lunch or rest after periods and end periods fast so they don't get to mingle too much but still...I'm rank 19th...

Popularity requires talking with individual members without anyone hating you. My PC is also max in terms of social, but getting along with "everyone" gives you a ridiculously thick bar. (my popularity bar is twice as thick as Rank 2. But then again, this class hasn't been at it for that long)
1) morning greeting is important.
2) talk to everyone each period, and use talk bubble to gain at least 100% (this is too much work by the way)
3) Any hatred significantly reduces your popularity rank

normalfags go die

Popular guys should go die - by FFF

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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I require a way to randomize panties. This would help greatly...Tired of all the girls being the same and tired of handpicking them all as well.

Oh I heard some people are having problems with the HF patch atm because of a bad mod in the latest release. The new uncensor might have a problem too, so you might wanna wait to download if your game works atm. I hope it gets sorted out since it has clothed uncensor finally. No more infinite black hole vaginas. I hope one of em has an anus texture too, that always bugs me with these 3d games. Reminds me of how with all the sex options in Skyrim mods, it was nearly impossible to find a body with one, lol. I guess they're probably difficult to map/place.

 

[lygarx]

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I'll try it. Maybe this will be good.

 

[MajinLuffy]

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How does the "get along", "rumors", etc, work? I thought you got to choose about whom you are talking after you click the option, but the girl just seems to pick a random person from the class when I try those options...

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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That moment when you accidentally run into the girl's locker room and everybody is naked. Those high athletic scores are so helpful... x.x Thankfully only two of them got upset (Easily remedied this time instead of the usual week of death threats...), one actually got turned on... ("Naughty..." in pink/red on the statue. That was new.) I don't know what determines whether or not they're nude or just in their underwear when you enter, but I am quite curious to find out. Incoming pervert run (I make way too many save files... I don't think I've played beyond a month or so yet with one class.). I wonder how fast I can ruin my anime school life by trying to catch girls changing constantly.

I'm really impressed with all the temporary relationship statuses. I can't believe how many there are. There are so many that only certain personality/trait types can get too, so many situational ones, it's pretty crazy. Certainly the most indepth social H game I've played. It's pretty fun to just screw around and see what you can make people think of you or others. It's a lot more varied than you may think if you haven't been playing the game long or checking the statue frequently.

How does the "get along", "rumors", etc, work? I thought you got to choose about whom you are talking after you click the option, but the girl just seems to pick a random person from the class when I try those options...

It lets me choose a character, just tested it. Good rumor worked, bad rumor worked, even group "get along with...", let me choose a person. Maybe you're failing an invisible roll or something? Did you try it with character you weren't good friends/lovers with?

It's also surprisingly easy to alter the way certain characters think of others if you're friends/lovers with them...easy rank ups on the popularity board, I'm sure. I've never really used any of those options (And will probably continue to avoid), not really my style to gossip, lol. Interesting though, maybe if I ever play a girl I'll try to cheat my way to popularity

 

[omgimdead]

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Here's some food for thought. I'm guessing that even if you changed or edited the character pngs, it doesn't affect a previous save game? Because I realized I completely forgot to give my main character any particular fetishes (have never seen blue hearts T^T), so when I edited him and eventually just replaced the png, still no blue hearts when doing anal.

Anyone managed to tweak their roster while still maintaining relationships? Meaning your character got "updated"(finally rolled a rainbow card ), but it wasn't as if you emptied a seat and put the updated character in as a new kid.

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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Anyone managed to tweak their roster while still maintaining relationships? Meaning your character got "updated"(finally rolled a rainbow card ), but it wasn't as if you emptied a seat and put the updated character in as a new kid.

Impossible at the moment, relationships are saved within the class file, and characters (traits) are saved as part of the class file. But when you remove a character, all his/her stats wiped from the class file. (One of the first thing I tested)

Hence, until they have a save editor for changing a character while keeping rooster, you are out of luck.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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I found you can juggle multiple girls pretty easy if you're constantly telling them to get along with each other. I'm sure some traits make it more difficult (Jealous for sure). I've heard you can get at least 2 girls at a time who are okay with sharing you (Rod sister) and you can even get a scene where they both flash you, but it seems very difficult to maintain. I haven't seen the scene yet. I think traits are important in that.

I accidentally broke up the two girls I was trying to test that with (Black hair and red hair in spoiler). They were already dating and I was dating the red head and we were all in love with each other. When I asked the black haired girl out I got a 999%, but we didn't start dating. The translated text was confusing but it was something like "I love someone else too much". I think she dumped the red head when that happened, so watch for that. She didn't even start dating me either x.x Do npcs or players have a lover limit?

I should have known making a friendly loli cat girl was a terrible idea. She has like twice the popularity of the next highest npc and is always being hit on. I think she had like 5 people in love with her at the time. After I noticed we weren't actually dating yet, I found her being kissed by yet another girl... First time I argued and it won her over apparently (Still no heart, but she's madly in love with me)
You need to work hard to protect your lolis, it's not all fun and games.

Oh and I just realized how much better you can make the game look by tweaking the options in the launcher menu, dang. Effect > Anti aliasing x8+ too good. Try it if you haven't. Doesn't seem too intensive unless you add other crap in there or have an old pc.

Spoiler

Rora (Only name I didn't randomize ) Umeki, Masami Kikuchi, Riko Matoba, Rinna Shiozaki, Aki Kajita

My favorite 5 girls I've created so far I think (Not counting anime girls). Funny when you put them close together, you can notice patterns (Greenish eyes). Even though I usually randomized eyes and have a good variety among my dozens of created girls. Can't post the pngs here because "loli", not sure if I should post them on hong. Most people just seem interested in the existing anime girl downloads. Anybody else create a ton of OCs?

 

[KHTA]

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I found you can juggle multiple girls pretty easy if you're constantly telling them to get along with each other. I'm sure some traits make it more difficult (Jealous for sure). I've heard you can get at least 2 girls at a time who are okay with sharing you (Rod sister) and you can even get a scene where they both flash you, but it seems very difficult to maintain. I haven't seen the scene yet. I think traits are important in that.

I accidentally broke up the two girls I was trying to test that with (Black hair and red hair in spoiler). They were already dating and I was dating the red head and we were all in love with each other. When I asked the black haired girl out I got a 999%, but we didn't start dating. The translated text was confusing but it was something like "I love someone else too much". I think she dumped the red head when that happened, so watch for that. She didn't even start dating me either x.x Do npcs or players have a lover limit?

I should have known making a friendly loli cat girl was a terrible idea. She has like twice the popularity of the next highest npc and is always being hit on. I think she had like 5 people in love with her at the time. After I noticed we weren't actually dating yet, I found her being kissed by yet another girl... First time I argued and it won her over apparently (Still no heart, but she's madly in love with me)
You need to work hard to protect your lolis, it's not all fun and games.

Oh and I just realized how much better you can make the game look by tweaking the options in the launcher menu, dang. Effect > Anti aliasing x8+ too good. Try it if you haven't. Doesn't seem too intensive unless you add other crap in there or have an old pc.

Spoiler

Rora (Only name I didn't randomize ) Umeki, Masami Kikuchi, Riko Matoba, Rinna Shiozaki, Aki Kajita

My favorite 5 girls I've created so far I think (Not counting anime girls). Funny when you put them close together, you can notice patterns (Greenish eyes). Even though I usually randomized eyes and have a good variety among my dozens of created girls. Can't post the pngs here because "loli", not sure if I should post them on hong. Most people just seem interested in the existing anime girl downloads. Anybody else create a ton of OCs?

I've had that problem before too where I had a girl with the highest love score but because she was dating someone else she refused to date me. Just keep at it and wait for her to come to you. Actually...I think it's due to their traits conbined with yours but...every single girl I asked out didn't accept unless they were the ones asking. It's...weird.

Oh well, I've had enough fun messing around with the options. Time to try (key word) to recreate the Date-A-Live girls and some other random harem anime girls to make a real run through.

 

[FruitSmoothie]

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Oh well, I've had enough fun messing around with the options. Time to try (key word) to recreate the Date-A-Live girls and some other random harem anime girls to make a real run through.

Goodluck. That's on my animes to watch list when I get around to it. Saw that crazy time wizard chick in an AMV and it seemed decent. Gotta love dem yandere girls (In anime anyways...). I'm still waiting on some mods before I try all the Monogatari girls. I think most are already posted, but I like creating them myself.

 

[MajinLuffy]

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Ok... Then my game is broken. I don't get to choose anyone when picking "get along"/"rumor"/etc options. Tried making a whole new class with different MC and random characters...nope. So I tried playing in windowed mode and I got something: everytime there's an interaction with the MC I get an "eraa" box. Something like Error 1x10003.