(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[SnowSakura]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Going off memory, but think she gave a flat 100g per unit she kills form what someone said earlier in the thread.
She is one of two current gold thief we have.

Edit: For me it would be a tie for both Katie and Bernice as both only get +66 DEF, as it is the lowest total stat gain of my current maxed affection units that I actively use, which most of my females are outside of silvers like Leeanne, only Phyllis has maxed affection for my Silvers and she gets +60Def.

Thanks for always replying to me with some really informative things, I just have one more question for now, I've done CR before on my other account and is it better to only do one copy per combine or does it matter if you throw in all of the copies in one combine, the only time I ever threw 2 into one combine I only got -1 CR, although I know the % drops to 75% chance after the first one

 

[Xovian]

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Thanks for always replying to me with some really informative things, I just have one more question for now, I've done CR before on my other account and is it better to only do one copy per combine or does it matter if you throw in all of the copies in one combine, the only time I ever threw 2 into one combine I only got -1 CR, although I know the % drops to 75% chance after the first one

Combines are not as straight forward as one might think. The chance a given unit gives for CR is independent of any others and is not additive to the % chance.

If you combine say 3 units for a final CR (which is only a 25% chance), each of those three units will have that 25% chance. If the first made it you'd have wasted the other two. If the first two failed and the third did pass, you'd still get the CR. Really the only thing you save by combining more than one for CR is the gold cost which IMO is not worth doing EVER.

So I'd always recommend doing a CR with a single unit only, as any additional "passes", will not apply. A unit can only be CR'ed once per combine regardless of how many were used.

 

[Lafate]

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well for me i liked Claudia (strong atk princess), Liana (black healer, removes status debuffs), and Karma (can't be healed, but invincibility during skill, for OP boss tanking), also there's the dragon crystals for Echidna (Healer which turns to mage when skill is used), and also the Time Fairy to get the black princess Anya

Karma is the one I'm looking forward to. Liana I'm not sure we will get her event due to her being placed in gatcha. As for Claudia... we will see when I get there.

Ninja Saki: Black unit. (ahem WORST BLACK UNIT IN GAME) for300 whoping crystals you can get this beauty who is pretty much useless as Hein overpowers her. get her for collection purpouses and leave her there.

The question is... who is the best female ninja? I mean Ninja Saki looks like she has the others beat.

 

[SnowSakura]

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Combines are not as straight forward as one might think. The chance a given unit gives for CR is independent of any others and is not additive to the % chance.

If you combine say 3 units for a final CR (which is only a 25% chance), each of those three units will have that 25% chance. If the first made it you'd have wasted the other two. If the first two failed and the third did pass, you'd still get the CR. Really the only thing you save by combining more than one for CR is the gold cost which IMO is not worth doing EVER.

So I'd always recommend doing a CR with a single unit only, as any additional "passes", will not apply. A unit can only be CR'ed once per combine regardless of how many were used.

Okay and I'm guessing it's probably a good idea to keep at least 1 copy of a silver in the future if I get better units for a CC

 

[Xovian]

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Okay and I'm guessing it's probably a good idea to keep at least 1 copy of a silver in the future if I get better units for a CC

3 if possible, in case of Plat+ units which require multiple silvers. But more is going to be better. It's why so many recommend if you do spend or have some extra crystals that you increase the amount of units you can hold, because you will need it eventually.

Eventually when awakening goes live you will needed CC'ed silvers, or gold units to unlock awakening for various units. It's why in my current list (sig) you see so many lvl1 CC'ed units, they are there for when awakening goes live.

 

[sabotagge]

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So I'd always recommend doing a CR with a single unit only, as any additional "passes", will not apply. A unit can only be CR'ed once per combine regardless of how many were used.

I wish I'd known that before tossing my 2 extra copies of Barbastroff to my main one.


I know this kind of has been discussed before but.
Any idea of what's a healthy amount of crystals to keep for events?
I already spend all the money I'm ever going to spend on Aigis and right now I'm sitting on 45 after my premium rolls,but is just so tempting.

There are some good units I'm missing but with:
Sybilla,Nanaly,Despara,Thetis,Dahlia,Fedora,Barbastroff,Cyrus,Sherry and Bernice I think I was lucky(It pains me to admit this for what I just read about her but I also had Betty and feed her to another unit by mistake)
So I dont know If I should do so more rolls it probably going to end up being silver or extra copies of units I already have

 

[Xovian]

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@sabotage

Use what your comfortable with, or in the case of gatcha comfortable with loosing. As the odds are heavily stacked against you to get a specific unit, or even a high rarity.

One thing to take note, is bought crystals do have a time limit of 180 days from time of converting the account gold to crystals.

If you have no plans to spend further, you'd be best served by avoiding gatcha entirely, and buying more slots and using the rest for events as they come up. We will have several events before those crystals would expire.

 

[Mangomon]

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I wish I'd known that before tossing my 2 extra copies of Barbastroff to my main one.

To make matters worse, he changes skills after CC. So any skill ups you got were wasted.

 

[sabotagge]

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To make matters worse, he changes skills after CC. So any skill ups you got were wasted.

I knew about that but I don't think increasing his skill was worth the cost(getting the 2 copies to 30 and cc them)

 

[SnowSakura]

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@sabotage

Use what your comfortable with, or in the case of gatcha comfortable with loosing. As the odds are heavily stacked against you to get a specific unit, or even a high rarity.

One thing to take note, is bought crystals do have a time limit of 180 days from time of converting the account gold to crystals.

If you have no plans to spend further, you'd be best served by avoiding gatcha entirely, and buying more slots and using the rest for events as they come up. We will have several events before those crystals would expire.

Speaking of which, what's the maximum slots you can get without spending any crystals and the maximum if you did? I'm a freemium player

Edit: and how many crystals would you need to spend to reach maximum?

 

[broken_wings]

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I knew about that but I don't think increasing his skill was worth the cost(getting the 2 copies to 30 and cc them)

its always worth going for a up in skill if you're doing a CR, since mainly the only thing that you really lose is a silver unit if need to CC, and during events they're basically a farmable resource

Speaking of which, what's the maximum slots you can get without spending any crystals and the maximum if you did? I'm a freemium player

Edit: and how many crystals would you need to spend to reach maximum?

i'm sure someone else can answer better than me on this.
you get extra slots every level or couple of levels, i forgot the amount and frequency, but in my JP version,
seeing as i only just hit the amount of slot purchases to qualify for getting a barracks, i think it means i spent 35 crystals total on slots and as of level 171 i have 233 total slots,
which would mean 93 slots if there are no slot upgrades (btw the barracks is basically a bank that can hold i think 250 units and will cost 30 crystals after you mean the req for it/ not yet implemented in nutaku)
i think the max number of slots is 240 total, which would be 100 with no crystals

 

[StarkeBlade]

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Any idea of what's a healthy amount of crystals to keep for events?
I already spend all the money I'm ever going to spend on Aigis and right now I'm sitting on 45 after my premium rolls,but is just so tempting.

Ignore the temptation, she hates you (and everyone else). I asked many pages ago about how many crystals to save and the response from the people who'd played the Japanese version was "save at least 30 crystals per farm events, more are better". So yeah, save at least what you have stocked now.

If you have to succumb to the gatcha at least wait till they have an event that boosts drop rates

 

[sabotagge]

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its always worth going for a up in skill if you're doing a CR, since mainly the only thing that you really lose is a silver unit if need to CC, and during events they're basically a farmable resource

And I would agree on most cases.
But for 2 sec less on the initial cooldown and even less on the one between uses(assuming both were successful)didn't worth it.
I may be wrong but I have a lot of units to level up so at the time it looked like the right choice(I made the rolls when I was like level 90 so I have to level up a lot of unit to replace my silvers)

 

[broken_wings]

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I may be wrong but I have a lot of units to level up so at the time it looked like the right choice(I made the rolls when I was like level 90 so I have to level up a lot of unit to replace my silvers)

i wish i was lucky or rich enough to have lots of units that is needed to level up. my team is 73% silvers still though i'm at rank 100, and even though i gave in and spent $40 on rolls 2 days ago, all i got was a 2nd betty and a 2nd fedora, both of whom i'll prob feed to ori so they're not immediately useful at all, along with the rest of the rolls being common silvers that are usually easy to get (valkyrie & soldier) and not the mage or witch that i need right now just to CC some units.

 

[dagonlies88]

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Combines are not as straight forward as one might think. The chance a given unit gives for CR is independent of any others and is not additive to the % chance.

If you combine say 3 units for a final CR (which is only a 25% chance), each of those three units will have that 25% chance. If the first made it you'd have wasted the other two. If the first two failed and the third did pass, you'd still get the CR. Really the only thing you save by combining more than one for CR is the gold cost which IMO is not worth doing EVER.

So I'd always recommend doing a CR with a single unit only, as any additional "passes", will not apply. A unit can only be CR'ed once per combine regardless of how many were used.

I can confirm the last sentence isn't true. I combined my Belinda in one go and got the full -3 CR.

So it looks like you can get more than one CR per combine.

 

[sabotagge]

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For Barbastroff and Cyrus,if I don't get it wrong theirs awaken abilities are extra range are the cost of attack speed and attack speed at the cost of range?
Not that they are hight on the awaken list for the future but it's nice to know.

The new sprite for Cyrus looks awesome.

Also are there any event related mages?

 

[Xovian]

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I can confirm the last sentence isn't true. I combined my Belinda in one go and got the full -3 CR.

So it looks like you can get more than one CR per combine.

I have done this repeatedly, and have never seen it work.
I'm not the only one who had posted what I said, this was mentioned several times through out the thread. My own testing shows never getting more then one CR, and I've done 4 combines at once, both my mages were done that way (yes I get way too many Cyrus from gatchs). Edit* I've also never seen more than a single skill up either.

Regardless I'm no longer willing to take that chance, gold is far too easy to get in the game than having to worry about trying to save a small amount of gold.

Edit2* Also until recently I thought units only got skill ups or CR when they leveled, just a week ago I saw other wise. So I can attest they don't have to level up to get either, but I've only seen that happen once out of all my combines.

 

[broken_wings]

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For Barbastroff and Cyrus,if I don't get it wrong theirs awaken abilities are extra range are the cost of attack speed and attack speed at the cost of range?
Not that they are hight on the awaken list for the future but it's nice to know.

The new sprite for Cyrus looks awesome.

Also are there any event related mages?

there;s odette for event mages, and she's considered one of the best ones as plat in terms of base stats
to bad her skill is really niche (up everyone's m.def by up to 20 max, mainly only useful against liches / mages)

i use Patra in JP server though, though she's gatcha, because her AW ability is same as betty
(when i do my reg farming at oasis in JP, i only use betty, patra, and isis)

 

[x3n0]

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I can confirm the last sentence isn't true. I combined my Belinda in one go and got the full -3 CR.

So it looks like you can get more than one CR per combine.

yup I can confirm that you can do that, I combined 3 soma in one go and get full -3 CR at last event

I have done this repeatedly, and have never seen it work.
I'm not the only one who had posted what I said, this was mentioned several times through out the thread. My own testing shows never getting more then one CR, and I've done 4 combines at once, both my mages were done that way (yes I get way too many Cyrus from gatchs). Edit* I've also never seen more than a single skill up either.

Regardless I'm no longer willing to take that chance, gold is far too easy to get in the game than having to worry about trying to save a small amount of gold.

Edit2* Also until recently I thought units only got skill ups or CR when they leveled, just a week ago I saw other wise. So I can attest they don't have to level up to get either, but I've only seen that happen once out of all my combines.

Haha it just the RNG teasing you ^_^ the CR and Skill lvl up work exclusively per unit in one combine, so there are chance that you fail the other 3 after the first one

 

[Xovian]

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Haha it just the RNG teasing you ^_^ the CR and Skill lvl up work exclusively per unit in one combine, so there are chance that you fail the other 3 after the first one

RNG really does hate me in this game then.

I stand corrected, I still wont do it simply because RNG hates me so much now.