(Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

[SnowSakura]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

We do not get any units at 50, we get the one rogue at level 30, that is all.

Weren't there a bunch of level bonus rewards in the JP version? I wonder if we'll ever get them

 

[Lafate]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Well, the Basic Team is not just "all the units free players get at start" since it includes both more and less of what these players get. For example, you list an optional princess in the roster but only 1 rogue when starting players will have 2 (3 at lvl 50). The Basic Team is the best foundation that new players should aim for, so the Intermediate Team should expand directly from this foundation, which will in turn feed directly into the Advanced Team.

So with that in mind, I think you should build the Intermediate Team from the Basic Team:


So let's go ahead and consolidate the valk, princess and bandit into "Duelists" which would make it 2-3. Let's also say that if the rogue wasn't leveled from before, it should now be in the team: 1 rogue. I don't think we should list the other units from the Basic Team as "1-2," these should just be "2" still as we are building from that foundation. You should then add in a guide below the list that helps players to decide what they can swap out. Kind of an introduction on "How to use the Intermediate Team".

Other things that should go into an Intermediate Team: 2-3 healers we agreed on already. I think 0-3 anti-rush is also feasible as this gives the new player the option of leveling/min-costing bronze soldiers if he/she has nothing else to work on at the moment (this should be part of the Intermediate Guide: the min-costing of Bronze Soldiers that is, and why they are useful).

Should also include a section about adding in event units and noticing where they fill into the Intermediate Team/ whether they should be a priority level-up after the Basic Team is done or if they can wait until the Advanced Team. I still think 0-1 assist is all that is necessary, but maybe add in 0-2 rear unit to give players the option of adding in a specialized rear dps that they get off of an event.

Also, to help differentiate between Bronze Soldiers section and the Soldier section, maybe change Soldiers to Soldier Chiefs, to emphasize that this slot is only filled by Silver+ rarity soldiers. Then, in the Basic Section, maybe make a note that the Soldier Chiefs must have Reinforcements skill to apply for the position; no Craves please.

This is more or less what I was saying and going for. There are a few difference though. However, you mentioned rear units. Now most of those already have places. Such as Shaman fitting in the witch slot due to being primary witches and secondary healers, and Bishop fitting in the mage slot due to being primary mages and secondary healers.

However, all that leaves out several classes so I guess adding a 0-2/3 recommendation for specialized rear units in advance would be good seeing as 6-7 classes do not fit into any of the before mentioned position such as pirates, summoners, and necromancers.

EDIT: Also do you have an input you could give on; what you think should be the level points that should be recommended? You know, for when a player should go from focusing on being introduced(basic set), to being a okay/knowledgable player(intermediate set), and finally becoming a 'veteran' player(advance set) .

 

[Xovian]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Weren't there a bunch of level bonus rewards in the JP version? I wonder if we'll ever get them

I heard they did, but for us, we get Cypria at 30, and not a unit after.
Hopefully this will one day be retroactively implemented.

 

[Xraagen]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Also do you have an input you could give on; what you think should be the level points that should be recommended? You know, for when a player should go from focusing on being introduced(basic set), to being a okay/knowledgable player(intermediate set), and finally becoming a 'veteran' player(advance set) .

Sorry if I restated items that were agreed upon already. Um, I did think of another addition to the Intermediate Team: maybe make Witches 2-3 so that players who need access to easier-to-obtain Black Fairies can prep to tackle War of Magic. I would then add in a link to Xovian's guide on that challenge map, it's really useful, but emphasize that people don't need to rush for this unless/until they need regular access to black fairies.

For your question above:
Basic Team units pursued until they are all 50CC30
Intermediate Team units pursued until they are all 50CC40
Advanced Team - "Are you prepared to go all the way with this, Alexi?"

 

[Lafate]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Sorry if I restated items that were agreed upon already. Um, I did think of another addition to the Intermediate Team: maybe make Witches 2-3 so that players who need access to easier-to-obtain Black Fairies can prep to tackle War of Magic. I would then add in a link to Xovian's guide on that challenge map, it's really useful, but emphasize that people don't need to rush for this unless/until they need regular access to black fairies.

For your question above:
Basic Team units pursued until they are all 50CC30
Intermediate Team units pursued until they are all 50CC40
Advanced Team - "Are you prepared to go all the way with this, Alexi?"

Well I wouldn't suggest anyone doing War of Magic currently. That place is a nightmare that quite literally requires a free players to have 2 -3 Calliope or a -3 Calliope and a -3 Bellinda to even have a hope of clearly it with two stars. If they really really needed access to black fairies I'd tell them to do tues/fri H. They would be wasting a lot of stamina otherwise. Even with have those two -3 witches they may still need to buy the 5+ UPC buff to beat it prior to the -1 to all witches patch.

 

[Xraagen]

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Well I wouldn't suggest anyone doing War of Magic currently. That place is a nightmare that quite literally requires a free players to have 2 -3 Calliope or a -3 Calliope and a -3 Bellinda to even have a hope of clearly it with two stars. If they really really needed access to black fairies I'd tell them to do tues/fri H. They would be wasting a lot of stamina otherwise. Even with have those two -3 witches they may still need to buy the 5+ UPC buff to beat it prior to the -1 to all witches patch.

Hmm, yeah, probably right about War of Magic. Much easier to run the dailies, even though they are a bit less efficient. Oh well, that just gives players all the more incentive to level up those bronze soldiers! I think other than the bronze soldiers, all the recommended units for the dailies are covered in the Basic Team. Ohh, except for Mens Battle.

Someone should definitely write a guide for that one. I know it's easy, but I think it would be a good idea to incorporate Mens Battle units into the Intermediate Team just so that mid-level players can farm male affection items if they need em. What would be the minimum/easiest team to put together that could tackle it? I think Xovian said you only need, like, 4 iron archers, 1 HA, 1 healer and 1 mage, right? Shit, I am not searching for that post in all this mess...

 

[UnknownFox]

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So question on the trading. I heard the contents get swapped after sometime, so is it worth it to spend the 200 on the Fairy Queen healer when I have Iris and Dorca as my main healers with Liana as backup if need be for a map. Course then the question of Cyrus as well. Just wanted some input on this as I sit around 180 crystals.

 

[Lafate]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Hmm, yeah, probably right about War of Magic. Much easier to run the dailies, even though they are a bit less efficient. Oh well, that just gives players all the more incentive to level up those bronze soldiers! I think other than the bronze soldiers, all the recommended units for the dailies are covered in the Basic Team. Ohh, except for Mens Battle.

Someone should definitely write a guide for that one. I know it's easy, but I think it would be a good idea to incorporate Mens Battle units into the Intermediate Team just so that mid-level players can farm male affection items if they need em. What would be the minimum/easiest team to put together that could tackle it? I think Xovian said you only need, like, 4 iron archers, 1 HA, 1 healer and 1 mage, right? Shit, I am not searching for that post in all this mess...

The easier team... Is literally a group of 5 level 12 iron archers, 2 level 3 iron mages, and the prince. The most anyone would really need to add to it. Is a Christopher to heal the prince if yours isn't high enough level; or even level the irons more. You don't really need to put together a guide for it.

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[akoss]

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So question on the trading. I heard the contents get swapped after sometime, so is it worth it to spend the 200 on the Fairy Queen healer when I have Iris and Dorca as my main healers with Liana as backup if need be for a map. Course then the question of Cyrus as well. Just wanted some input on this as I sit around 180 crystals.

You might want to wait for Saki or Spica if you already have 3 healers.

Cyrus is pretty bad, but he is still a gold mage if you don't have any. 50cc60 Barbastroff @ 0 affection + prince buff = 500 attack, Cyrus would need to affection items to reach that breakpoint.

50cc60 Mehlis @100% affection + prince buff = 600 attack. Gold mages have some nice round numbers.

 

[UnknownFox]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Well along side Valerie who is at 50 affection lv 40 and Mehelis at 33 with 44 affection. So I guess i'll hold off and save until the new set comes along, thanks.

 

[Mangomon]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Huzzah! 6 premium rolls, 5 silvers 1 gold.....


Q.Q

 

[redscizor]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Huzzah! 6 premium rolls, 5 silvers 1 gold.....


Q.Q

Yes same, 8 rolls = 6 silvers + Conrad + Iris ... premium chance is working?

 

[PhantomPain]

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Yes same, 8 rolls = 6 silvers + Conrad + Iris ... premium chance is working?

It should be...

I got Mehlis with just 1 draw

 

[Lafate]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

It should be...

I got Mehlis with just 1 draw

Mehlis/Garania spotlight is over so it is not.

Currently it is Sakuya/Hina

 

[PhantomPain]

Re: (Nutaku) Milenium War Aigis (English Version)

Mehlis/Garania spotlight is over so it is not.

Currently it is Sakuya/Hina

Didn't see that until now lol.

 

[dagonlies88]

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I'm disappointed that I got 2 Hina and no Sakuya.

I will probably never even use Hina once we get Saki.

 

[xaxs]

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Thursday dailies started really well but after first runs... well I feel lucky to not get 0 drop runs -,-' Yeah it was just sooo baad. Barely got Chydis on all accs and that was supposed to be easily achievable. Well wont have enough stam for any more of dailies so back to farming event maps. Need some completions and silver dragons for SU. Elaine im coming for you! My Thetis need some girl (I wont hand over Bashira no matter what, you hear Thetis?).

 

[Lafate]

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I'm disappointed that I got 2 Hina and no Sakuya.

I will probably never even use Hina once we get Saki.

I won't due to only using one Ninja in my plans, but you may. Hina out powers Saki in certain areas.

I haven't really looked at the new black ninja yet, but it is pretty much Hina for Single target and Saki for AoE.

 

[Altrius]

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I'm disappointed that I got 2 Hina and no Sakuya.

I will probably never even use Hina once we get Saki.

Hina is atk type ninja (highest atk at that), while saki is asasinate ninja. Those 2 are different type so why not ?
Well i guess current enemy doesnt matter, but large enemy later usually have 400-450+ def, this make saki atk barely dmg him (or pray for asasination to work).
This when those atk ninja become a nice role

PS: there also large enemy with 1000 def, well this 1 is supposely need magic to hurt him down
Boss enemy is on their own class with their own uniqueness on their own

 

[dagonlies88]

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Hina is atk type ninja (highest atk at that), while saki is asasinate ninja. Those 2 are different type so why not ?
Well i guess current enemy doesnt matter, but large enemy later usually have 400-450+ def, this make saki atk barely dmg him (or pray for asasination to work).
This when those atk ninja become a nice role

PS: there also large enemy with 1000 def, well this 1 is supposely need magic to hurt him down
Boss enemy is on their own class with their own uniqueness on their own

Wouldn't a princess be more suited for those situations? Unless there are enemies that you can't afford to melee AND have 400 def. In which case, sure, I see your point.