[Nutaku] Osawari Island

[YummyTiger]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

Somebody already did that. Don't worry everything is working as intended.
They are not the same after all... USDD (50$) and USD(30$) have different spoil times 14days vs 3days. Of cource you need to pay more for that excellent feature. (It's a big ripoff to word it differently)

That is the silliest thing I've heard in a long time. So... Nutaku logic = You can get ELEVEN monster gems and a USD banana that expires in 4 days for $30, OR you can get a single USDD banana that expires in 14 days for FIFTY dollars? What!?! No way any sane person designs it this way.

I'm telling you, they added an extra zero and the USDD banana is supposed to be $5. $5 to make the rare show up, and $3 to capture it sounds pretty much in line with everything else price wise, but $50 to make it show up and $3 to capture is makes NO sense. Heck you can get the paid gatcha spins for cheaper.

 

[yobnomekop]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

That is the silliest thing I've heard in a long time. So... Nutaku logic = You can get ELEVEN monster gems and a USD banana that expires in 4 days for $30, OR you can get a single USDD banana that expires in 14 days for FIFTY dollars? What!?! No way any sane person designs it this way.

I'm telling you, they added an extra zero and the USDD banana is supposed to be $5. $5 to make the rare show up, and $3 to capture it sounds pretty much in line with everything else price wise, but $50 to make it show up and $3 to capture is makes NO sense. Heck you can get the paid gatcha spins for cheaper.

Of course its supposed to be like that. The whole point of it is to get you to spend your money. If you don't have the patience/luck to do 1k runs and find her then pay the money or deal with it. Rares are supposed to be rare, not everyone will get the chance to see them, that's how its supposed to be.

 

[Larcx]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

That is the silliest thing I've heard in a long time. So... Nutaku logic = You can get ELEVEN monster gems and a USD banana that expires in 4 days for $30, OR you can get a single USDD banana that expires in 14 days for FIFTY dollars? What!?! No way any sane person designs it this way.

I'm telling you, they added an extra zero and the USDD banana is supposed to be $5. $5 to make the rare show up, and $3 to capture it sounds pretty much in line with everything else price wise, but $50 to make it show up and $3 to capture is makes NO sense. Heck you can get the paid gatcha spins for cheaper.

lol
But Nutaku never corrent it for quite some time
I'm beginning to wonder if it is really a mistake or not
If it's not , well they are too fucking of an idiot

Like You said , 5$ sounds more logical
But I prefer it 2-3$ , but it can expire in 1 hour

Of course its supposed to be like that. The whole point of it is to get you to spend your money. If you don't have the patience/luck to do 1k runs and find her then pay the money or deal with it. Rares are supposed to be rare, not everyone will get the chance to see them, that's how its supposed to be.

Well in event like this , yes people can get unpatient
But in normal stage , If You lucky , You can encounter it in 50 try
Or atleast once in 3-4 days , if You spam lowest stamina

 

[YummyTiger]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

Of course its supposed to be like that. The whole point of it is to get you to spend your money. If you don't have the patience/luck to do 1k runs and find her then pay the money or deal with it. Rares are supposed to be rare, not everyone will get the chance to see them, that's how its supposed to be.

You miss the entire point I am making. How is $50 USDD bananas getting anyone to "spend money?" You can buy the SAME banana for $20 cheaper with ELEVEN monster gems. THE SAME BANANA. So, if you don't have the patience to find the rare, then you can spend $50 for a USDD banana, or $30 for eleven gems and a USD banana to solve that problem. That makes no sense, and I cannot believe anyone would program any game in such fashion. There is literally NO reason to ever buy the $50 banana, and I'd challenge you to find me a single situation where a player would. (NOTE: This is only valid if I'm right on how USDD bananas work and they are a single use item. I'd never spend the $50 to find out).

From a business standpoint, $5 for the USDD banana absolutely fits with the entire pricing scheme. If you compare gatcha spin pricing for SSR/SL eromons, gem pricing, and normal banana pricing, $5 for a single rare occurrence is in line. I've submitted a support request inquiring the logic behind the $50 USDD banana, so I'll let you know what they respond.

 

[Larcx]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

So there is this Limited Burger for 50$
But the same Restaurant also sell frenchfries for 30$
Surprise.... You also get that 50$ burger
Only exception is , it only sells at 10am-11am

I really doubt people who cannot attend/visit at the time will still buy it

But eh.....
Let's end the disscussion
Maybe he have another reason to buy the 50$ one

But if You ask Me , MEH!!!!!!

 

[yobnomekop]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

You miss the entire point I am making. How is $50 USDD bananas getting anyone to "spend money?" You can buy the SAME banana for $20 cheaper with ELEVEN monster gems. THE SAME BANANA. So, if you don't have the patience to find the rare, then you can spend $50 for a USDD banana, or $30 for eleven gems and a USD banana to solve that problem. That makes no sense, and I cannot believe anyone would program any game in such fashion. There is literally NO reason to ever buy the $50 banana, and I'd challenge you to find me a single situation where a player would. (NOTE: This is only valid if I'm right on how USDD bananas work and they are a single use item. I'd never spend the $50 to find out).

From a business standpoint, $5 for the USDD banana absolutely fits with the entire pricing scheme. If you compare gatcha spin pricing for SSR/SL eromons, gem pricing, and normal banana pricing, $5 for a single rare occurrence is in line. I've submitted a support request inquiring the logic behind the $50 USDD banana, so I'll let you know what they respond.

Yes I understand that the pricing is a little messed up, the capsule pack is cheaper and everybody does use their banana right away. I also think that 5$ is way to cheap. If you could guarantee yourself a rare eromon and guarantee capture for less than $10 that would remove all the luck from the game and it wouldn't be fun anymore. There would be no challenge and everyone would always have all the rares. I think a more reasonable price would be $20.

 

[Angmir]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

Yes I understand that the pricing is a little messed up, the capsule pack is cheaper and everybody does use their banana right away. I also think that 5$ is way to cheap. If you could guarantee yourself a rare eromon and guarantee capture for less than $10 that would remove all the luck from the game and it wouldn't be fun anymore. There would be no challenge and everyone would always have all the rares. I think a more reasonable price would be $20.

I think reasonable price for rare colectable card in the internet based flash game is 0.10$

Seriously this game pricing is horid.

Make a pity system like in Diablo 3 (the longer you go without finding rare your encounter chance rises)
no Bananas or similar items at all
1$ for Monster Gem
1$ for 10 slots
biggest gatcha spin for 5$

That is decent pricing ...

 

[YummyTiger]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

Yes I understand that the pricing is a little messed up, the capsule pack is cheaper and everybody does use their banana right away. I also think that 5$ is way to cheap. If you could guarantee yourself a rare eromon and guarantee capture for less than $10 that would remove all the luck from the game and it wouldn't be fun anymore. There would be no challenge and everyone would always have all the rares. I think a more reasonable price would be $20.

So, $20 for a single rare occurrence, OR $30 for a single rare occurrence AND eleven gems. Again, that is a asinine pricing structure. You'd be a fool to buy the $20 product, albeit less of a fool than someone buying the $50 product. Time usage of these bananas is irrelevant for the most part. As you can simply purchase the product when you need it.

As for $5 being too cheap, I think you overestimate people's willingness to spend money. How many rares are there currently? I'd estimate 25 or so up to this point? You really think that more than maybe 3-5% of the players would be willing to spend over $150 to get all the rares? Instead, you'd have people who could actually get the 2-4 rares they want, and you'd alleviate one of the most annoying aspects of the game. Rares would still be "rare."

I'm bringing this up and pushing for discussion because I want to see the price corrected. This is a product that I'd find worthwhile if a rare came along that I really wanted. And, the current pricing structure reeks of an input error or mistranslation. If people approached Nutaku about it, they might look into correcting the problem.

 

[Haunter7]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

Someone already reported it a few weeks ago, Nutaku's only response was that the prices are on par with DMM's ones and no modifications can/will be made.

 

[yobnomekop]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

I think reasonable price for rare colectable card in the internet based flash game is 0.10$

Seriously this game pricing is horid.

Make a pity system like in Diablo 3 (the longer you go without finding rare your encounter chance rises)
no Bananas or similar items at all
1$ for Monster Gem
1$ for 10 slots
biggest gatcha spin for 5$

That is decent pricing ...

Ya and wouldn't it be great if every time you logged in they gifted you every eromon? That would just be the best...

 

[Larcx]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

Yes I understand that the pricing is a little messed up, the capsule pack is cheaper and everybody does use their banana right away. I also think that 5$ is way to cheap. If you could guarantee yourself a rare eromon and guarantee capture for less than $10 that would remove all the luck from the game and it wouldn't be fun anymore. There would be no challenge and everyone would always have all the rares. I think a more reasonable price would be $20.

Thank goodness
So You agree 50$ is horrible

Well 20$ still expensive , no one will buy it anyway
IMO Yummy Tiger is better idea

Better sell it cheap , but there is 1000 people who buy it
Then sell it like a madrobber but only 2-3 people who buy it
TBH I REALLY doubt there is any sane man who buy it for 50$ in the planet
Though anything is possible......

Rare Eromon won't make You invicible , no PVP system too after all
And they always change the EP booster in every event I think

So probably 5$-7$ for the Max is quite a reasonable price IMO
But still , I prefer it 2-3$ with 1 hour expiration time
Heck 1-2$ for 15-30 minutes expiration is fine too

But Meh... I agree with 5$

 

[Haunter7]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

You sure 4-12 can drop fairies? I keep running it on 3x and have yet to see one fairy drop. I really need those fucking fairies and this can cost me my top 500 spot...

 

[yobnomekop]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

Thank goodness
So You agree 50$ is horrible

Well 20$ still expensive , no one will buy it anyway
IMO Yummy Tiger is better idea

Better sell it cheap , but there is 1000 people who buy it
Then sell it like a madrobber but only 2-3 people who buy it
TBH I REALLY doubt there is any sane man who buy it for 50$ in the planet
Though anything is possible......

Rare Eromon won't make You invicible , no PVP system too after all
And they always change the EP booster in every event I think

So probably 5$-7$ for the Max is quite a reasonable price IMO
But still , I prefer it 2-3$ with 1 hour expiration time
Heck 1-2$ for 15-30 minutes expiration is fine too

But Meh... I agree with 5$

Of course it would be great if they decided to reduce the price, and even greater if it was a decent price $5-$10, but most likely they wont even bother changing the price and even if they do its probably not going to be below $15.

 

[Angmir]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

Ya and wouldn't it be great if every time you logged in they gifted you every eromon? That would just be the best...

On the contrary - I think everything should be gameplay related. Nothing for free. I only mentioned purchesables becouse game wont operate without them obviously.

In ideal game, even those monstergems should be obtainable through gameplay - for example lev3 alchemy etc.

And I would love a friend trading system.

 

[yobnomekop]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

On the contrary - I think everything should be gameplay related. Nothing for free. I only mentioned purchesables becouse game wont operate without them obviously.

In ideal game, even those monstergems should be obtainable through gameplay - for example lev3 alchemy etc.

That would actually be really cool, if you could grow your own bananas and alchemy the capsules. It would have to be expensive/time consuming but it would be pretty cool.
Maybe limited to 2-5 capsules per month, 10-30 bananas per month, and 1 usd banana per month.

 

[YummyTiger]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

Someone already reported it a few weeks ago, Nutaku's only response was that the prices are on par with DMM's ones and no modifications can/will be made.

That is a standard response to a single report. What if 15 people report it? or 30? Do they still just write it off. I can't see how that particular product has had anyone purchase it yet. The only reason I can see them reluctant to change it would be to force people to buy the monster gem pack to get USD bananas. Yet, that is also counterproductive, because you STILL need gems in order to catch these eromons. So, people will be buying that regardless. All you do with this pricing is frustrate you player base, which leads to burnout.

As for them not dropping it below $15, you can't say that for sure. As I said, $5 fits with their pricing structure. Look at the rank-up gatcha pricing. AND, you have to remember that $5 does not get you the rare, $8 does (you still need the gem). Top that off with the fact that Nutaku is now throwing 2-3 rares per stage, meaning, even these ridiculously overpriced bananas don't ensure you that you'll get the rare you want. I'm telling you, it is an input error and I'd love for more people to report it with me.

 

[Angmir]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

That is a standard response to a single report. What if 15 people report it? or 30? Do they still just write it off. I can't see how that particular product has had anyone purchase it yet. The only reason I can see them reluctant to change it would be to force people to buy the monster gem pack to get USD bananas. Yet, that is also counterproductive, because you STILL need gems in order to catch these eromons. So, people will be buying that regardless. All you do with this pricing is frustrate you player base, which leads to burnout.

As for them not dropping it below $15, you can't say that for sure. As I said, $5 fits with their pricing structure. Look at the rank-up gatcha pricing. AND, you have to remember that $5 does not get you the rare, $8 does (you still need the gem). Top that off with the fact that Nutaku is now throwing 2-3 rares per stage, meaning, even these ridiculously overpriced bananas don't ensure you that you'll get the rare you want. I'm telling you, it is an input error and I'd love for more people to report it with me.

Unfortunatly - hes right - Even if the Pope himself will report it, prices will stay on the Japanese level no matter what.
This game English version is probably run by 1 or 2 guys in a backyard shed somewhere, and they have 0 influence on the content of the game - they just translate it, cut out any illegal content (loli characters), and try to keep the game going...
Japanese Hentai industry isnt exacly known for flexibility - if it was there would be a ton of Japanese H-games in US and EU.

PS> Yummy it isnt an error - durring first 2 days - in Area 1 only Rare was Ana.
They added the clown later with Area 2 - so it is deliberate, probably to screw ppl with Bananas ;]

 

[yobnomekop]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

That is a standard response to a single report. What if 15 people report it? or 30? Do they still just write it off. I can't see how that particular product has had anyone purchase it yet. The only reason I can see them reluctant to change it would be to force people to buy the monster gem pack to get USD bananas. Yet, that is also counterproductive, because you STILL need gems in order to catch these eromons. So, people will be buying that regardless. All you do with this pricing is frustrate you player base, which leads to burnout.

As for them not dropping it below $15, you can't say that for sure. As I said, $5 fits with their pricing structure. Look at the rank-up gatcha pricing. AND, you have to remember that $5 does not get you the rare, $8 does (you still need the gem). Top that off with the fact that Nutaku is now throwing 2-3 rares per stage, meaning, even these ridiculously overpriced bananas don't ensure you that you'll get the rare you want. I'm telling you, it is an input error and I'd love for more people to report it with me.

Yes, I bet if we got a bunch of people to report it they might do something. I also forgot about the stages with multiple rares, unlucky people might have to buy 5 bananas to get the rare they want. I personally have gotten Charlotte from my USD banana and it made me quite sad.

 

[Larcx]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

Well 15$ still quite expensive , but there will much more people who buy it rather than the 50$ price

15$ but having Banana and 100% capsule
I might consider it

15$ without 100% chance...
Nah , I'll pass

You sure 4-12 can drop fairies? I keep running it on 3x and have yet to see one fairy drop. I really need those fucking fairies and this can cost me my top 500 spot...

I AFK like 300-400 time on that 4-12 stage
Yes it drops fairy , I guarantee that. But if You ask does the fairies drop is 100% , no
If You're in a hurry , You better not
Rather saty on those top 500 rank
For Me it's too late , now on 750
Good thing is I already have Yurika
I just want Ana and Taylor , but I will not use Bananas. I only need to encounter it once.......

 

[Haunter7]

Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

Well 15$ still quite expensive , but there will much more people who buy it rather than the 50$ price

15$ but having Banana and 100% capsule
I might consider it

15$ without 100% chance...
Nah , I'll pass



I AFK like 300-400 time on that 4-12 stage
Yes it drops fairy , I guarantee that. But if You ask does the fairies drop is 100% , no
If You're in a hurry , You better not
Rather saty on those top 500 rank
For Me it's too late , now on 750
Good thing is I already have Yurika
I just want Ana and Taylor , but I will not use Bananas. I only need to encounter it once.......

Hmm then another question would be: is Yurika worth it? And I'm not sure I'd prefer top 500 over fortune tickets tbh, it's not only Yurika, but also R and HR tickets, mini stamina potions etc Useful stuff. Guess I'll look for both Yurika and the top 500 reward girl in jap wiki and then decide.

Edit: both aren't too impressive, but while Yurika is quite useless in the long run, Kiyoko at least is a potent hard hitter with like 300 more attack than Nakagami. The problem is u'd have to transer some damage dealing skill to her, probably from an extra Nakagami copy.