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No banana, no gem, my 5th run of this area. Farming for fairies for the event.
I've been always dreaming of becoming that lucky bastard, now I can die in peace. I am literally in tears now.
Is this SL usefull?
 

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That is a standard response to a single report.

I'm telling you, it is an input error and I'd love for more people to report it with me.
Sadly that's true I saw "everything is ok" answer when it was not (but they fix it the next day...) but in this case it's not a input error the same price is in the dmm version too.

I can't see how that particular product has had anyone purchase it yet.
Well soneone did buy it because it was assumed that it spawned multiple rares (it would make sense then right?) If the effect was actually bugged it would be worth the money. Sadly I can't read the original description to confirm this.
Good luck with your report I guess.

As for them not dropping it below $15, you can't say that for sure. As I said, $5 fits with their pricing structure. Look at the rank-up gatcha pricing. AND, you have to remember that $5 does not get you the rare, $8 does (you still need the gem). Top that off with the fact that Nutaku is now throwing 2-3 rares per stage, meaning, even these ridiculously overpriced bananas don't ensure you that you'll get the rare you want.
8$ for a 50%-100% chance of the rare you want? No way this will ever happen. Gacha has a 1/godknowshowmanythereare chance to get the one you want for 5$ that is way lower for not even halve the price.
You don't seem to understand how this buisness works:
1. let them play for free.
2. give them some cheap stuff they can buy (monster gems) 10% of the playerbase will buy them.
3. give them some expensive stuff to buy (100$ gacha/bags) 10% of the paying playerbase will buy them.
But due to the insane pricing that 10% of 10% is still like 99% of the money they make. Lowering the prices as long there are "rich idiots" out there is a bag idea.
 

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Re: [Nutaku] Osawari Island

Fuck with the Bananas:rolleyes:
Now I can finaly sleep:D
Had not sleep for like 20-22 hour since Yesterday:p




Yes I'm using POKEBALLMASTER!!!
Fuck with depend on 15%
Encounter her is a bless on its own , I just happy I'm not encounter Gauner
Shit..... I forgot to capture the wave when I saw Ana
Too happy when I saw it , and becoz I haven't sleep so I forgot

Now I'm gonna hunt for Taylor
But with only a day , and the risk that I will see Gauner instead......
Probably quite a very2 low chance

@Haunter7

Are You kidding??!:confused:
Any SL Eromon is totaly WORTH it
Even with a bad Special like Ana , who only up Provocation

Though it's Your choice anyway

Time to sleepppppp
 

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Sadly that's true I saw "everything is ok" answer when it was not (but they fix it the next day...) but in this case it's not a input error the same price is in the dmm version too.

8$ for a 50%-100% chance of the rare you want? No way this will ever happen. Gacha has a 1/godknowshowmanythereare chance to get the one you want for 5$ that is way lower for not even halve the price.
You don't seem to understand how this buisness works:
1. let them play for free.
2. give them some cheap stuff they can buy (monster gems) 10% of the playerbase will buy them.
3. give them some expensive stuff to buy (100$ gacha/bags) 10% of the paying playerbase will buy them.
But due to the insane pricing that 10% of 10% is still like 99% of the money they make. Lowering the prices as long there are "rich idiots" out there is a bag idea.
Good to know that is the price in the DMM version, I was unaware of this. Still, it makes no sense and I'll be interested in their response. There was a Nutaka representative on another board I frequent, so maybe I can discuss a bit more with him.

As for your last comment, I completely understand how business works. What you, and others who argue, don't seem to be following, is the $50 banana is beyond illogical. There is literally no business argument for this item, because you can get a USD banana that does the EXACT SAME THING for $20 cheaper, and it comes with 11 monster gems. There is no business reasoning for creating such a product. Someone mentioned McDonald's earlier, and it can provide a reasonable analogy. It is like McDonald's selling a cheeseburger for $10, and also selling the same cheeseburger with fries and a drink for $5. Why on Earth would anyone buy the $10 cheeseburger?

So, someone got royally screwed and bought it once to realize that it was actually the same as the USD banana? If I'd done that, I would demand a refund from Nutaku. Would I get it? Maybe not, in which case I would literally do everything I could to dissuade others from playing. That is a poor business model, and those who are smart in business know not to underestimate word-of-mouth advertising.

Finally, as for the gatcha. I can pull the rank up gatcha 10 times for the price of one USDD banana. That is guaranteed to be at least ONE SL, and probably a few. Additionally, the gatcha SLs are far more "rare" than the rares roaming the maps. They tend to have better skills too. As I've stated, there is no logical reason for that item, and I still think it was designed in error. $5 does fit with the other pricing, when you evaluate it as a whole.

EDIT: I'll add that the $5 pricing is not even my main point. I just used $5, because I'd assumed an input error or something where an extra zero was added. If the price should be $10, then whatever, but it should be brought in line with everything else about the game. The guarantee rare banana could be a useful item if it were reasonably priced.
 
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@Haunter7

Best place imo to grind fairies is 3-11.I get 18-21 fairies every other run on 3x mode.3-11 cause I rather afk it and not have to press to skip the dialogue.
 

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Apparently the fortune box refills when you get everything. So many tickets.

Now I really regret spending all those fairies before the event.
 
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Apparently the fortune box refills when you get everything. So many tickets.

Now I really regret spending all those fairies before the event.
Yeah , I am an idiot who use it to buy stam potion
Go ahead and laugh
Luckyly , I got Yurika in 75/200 try
Now , I'm gonna change those fairies into ticket
Before something bad happen , if Nutaku will change it again
Though , It's probably not
Still , prepare for the worst
 

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Yeah , I am an idiot who use it to buy stam potion
Go ahead and laugh
That's what everyone had been doing, I've spent at least 12500 fairies on stamina pots too (that's only 25 mini pots). Those were simply the only thing worth getting for fairies. It's not particularly fair that ppl who had saved them for some reason can now benefit so much from that, I think it'd be better to let us buy the tickets for in game money or something, maybe even lovey-dovey hearts as everyone has a shitload of those (80k here). Or simply give everyone an equal amount of fortune tickets, like 100. But whatever.

Btw, does anyone know a recipe to trade 2-3 level alchemy materials for S/M gems (or fairies :p), if there's one at all? I have thousands of them and at least one copy of every SL alchemy eromon except for Mujina, so I'd rather spend them on gems cos tickets > skill ups. And only Nakagami needs skill ups actually. I wonder what u guys are spending ur 2-3* alchemy gems on? What are we supposed to do with them in "late game" if they can't be traded for gems (I'm not counting L gems as I find them rather useless)?

One more thing, anyone here with rank around #500? I'm #404 with 305k EP and just wondering if I can take it easy now, would need to have like at least 50k more than ppl from around place 500 tho. Hopefully the timer is working as it should this time which would mean we have 23h left before the event ends.
 
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I'm roughly rank 670 with 260k. I guess I can shoot for top 500 after all.
 
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Anyone arround 500 can tell how much EP you need ?
I'd say 300k will be nexessary, possibly like 310-315k cos of the last minute rush. Not sure when exactly the event's gonna end tho.
 

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Someone mentioned McDonald's earlier, and it can provide a reasonable analogy. It is like McDonald's selling a cheeseburger for $10, and also selling the same cheeseburger with fries and a drink for $5. Why on Earth would anyone buy the $10 cheeseburger?
Who said it was the same? The 10$ one is called "deluxe" so it has to be better right? You don't need much logic to rip people off. The only other explanation would be it's just bugged.
You're right no sane person would buy it BUT there are also insane out there.

Finally, as for the gatcha. I can pull the rank up gatcha 10 times for the price of one USDD banana. That is guaranteed to be at least ONE SL, and probably a few. Additionally, the gatcha SLs are far more "rare" than the rares roaming the maps. They tend to have better skills too. As I've stated, there is no logical reason for that item, and I still think it was designed in error. $5 does fit with the other pricing, when you evaluate it as a whole.
Actually someone hab a problem with the rank up gacha too. Apparently you are not even guaranteed a SL but a SSR or higher. The 100$ gacha guarantees you one SL so it would actually make sense that you don't get the same for halve the price.

And let's be honest here most have trash skills/stats anyway. What you are buying are the hcg and maybe some EP booster.

I would be interessted in the reasoning too but somehow I don't believe we will get one.

Apparently the fortune box refills when you get everything. So many tickets.
Is there even a reason to get all the stuff? I have a lot of tickets but don't see the reason to use them.

I'd say 300k will be nexessary, possibly like 310-315k cos of the last minute rush. Not sure when exactly the event's gonna end tho.
There is the timer. If you are afraid of it being inaccurate just refresh the page it synchronizes then.
 
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Is there even a reason to get all the stuff? I have a lot of tickets but don't see the reason to use them.


There is the timer. If you are afraid of it being inaccurate just refresh the page it synchronizes then.
Do you have both HR or Higher Tickets ? Or all the Icecream ? They are worth it for sure
 

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Ya guys I know there's a timer but it has fucked me up 2 times already so I'd rather not trust it anymore :) The previous event ended like 6h before it should have according to the timer. Maybe it's been fixed since then tho, no idea.
 

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Yup turning fairies into icecreams and gacha tickets is pretty dam cool and far more useful than mini stamina pots.

Just start using your stamina pots now if you are afraid.
 

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Ah I give up on EP
No booster is hard
In a day I can stay for 20 hour , then sleep for like 7-8 hour
I lose that regen time
I rather hunt for SL at 2'nd half
More relaxing , only the shitty thing is , I still not encounter Taylor......:(
 

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Ya guys I know there's a timer but it has fucked me up 2 times already so I'd rather not trust it anymore :) The previous event ended like 6h before it should have according to the timer. Maybe it's been fixed since then tho, no idea.
No it wasn't fixed but like I said it synchronizes if you refresh the page. Just memorize the endtime and use your watch after that.

Edit: last time wasn't even the timers fault the event was just bugged and fixed after a few hours the endtime was fine.
 
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Finaly I can rest
Bye2 Kiyoko Hanada
I think... Taylor special is better
Though it a different Element
But eh..... It's too late for Me to comeback to top 500 anyway
And I don't feel the motivation
 

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Finaly I can rest
Bye2 Kiyoko Hanada
I think... Taylor special is better
Though it a different Element
But eh..... It's too late for Me to comeback to top 500 anyway
And I don't feel the motivation
Well, I'm top 400 with around 330k EP. Honestly, if you have a decent sized stamina bar >160/170ish, you can probably get top 500 with 3-4 stamina pots and the corresponding level ups. Course, I don't know where you are at--AND, I don't know how much last minute pushing will occur, so my 330k, may not be good enough.

Does anyone feel they lowered the appearance chance of bosses in the capture screen for this event? Maybe I'm just unlucky (actually, I AM unlucky), but I've only caught 1 Jin and 1 of the second boss in a LOT of runs.
 
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