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Oh, silly me. So yeah, without skill, Hores would do better on tanky enemies, but small fries have low defense to begin with, so I stand by my second point. 1/2 attack dealing scratch at 300 defense goes for both of them anyway.
That attack speed loss though... it's like Charlotte could do all of Hores' work in half the time.
Oh, silly me. So yeah, without skill, Hores would do better on tanky enemies, but small fries have low defense to begin with, so I stand by my second point. 1/2 attack dealing scratch at 300 defense goes for both of them anyway.
That attack speed loss though... it's like Charlotte could do all of Hores' work in half the time.
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The thing is... I'm a collection whore too
My team is more or less balanced and with a lot of different units but I lack the duelists to deal with black onis and liches T_T
The thing is... I'm a collection whore too
My team is more or less balanced and with a lot of different units but I lack the duelists to deal with black onis and liches T_T
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Why am I so obsessed with 300 defense? Lich, Efreet, and a lot of other end game bosses has 300 defense.
The reverse is also true, if both take same number of hits to kill, then Charlotte is better.
Reading the below is a waste of time.
Actually, only Charlotte does scratch damage (27 damage), Hores does 46 damage at AW1. (Same difference xD )
Why am I so obsessed with 300 defense? Lich, Efreet, and a lot of other end game bosses has 300 defense.
If Hores 2 shots goblins, and Charlotte 3 shots, Hores is better than Charlotte.
The reverse is also true, if both take same number of hits to kill, then Charlotte is better.
Reading the below is a waste of time.
AW1
Charlotte: 469 * 1.19 = 558 / 2 = 279 - 300 = scratch damage
Hores: 583 * 1.19 = 693 / 2 = 346 - 300 = 46 damage
AW90
Charlotte: 577 * 1.19 = 686 / 2 = 343 - 300 = 43 damage (x1.2 = 51)
Assuming Hores's AW growth rate attack is same as Carry
Hores: 776 * 1.19 = 923 / 2 = 461 - 300 = 161 damage
Requires Charlotte attacking 3 times faster to do more damage than Hores
Going back to skill activation, attack ignores armor.
Charlotte: 686 * 1.2 / 2 = 411 damage (x1.2 = 493)
Hores: 923 * 1.2 / 2 = 553 damage
Requires Charlotte attacking 12% faster to do more damage than Hores. Which she does, hence she's better during skill activation.
Charlotte: 469 * 1.19 = 558 / 2 = 279 - 300 = scratch damage
Hores: 583 * 1.19 = 693 / 2 = 346 - 300 = 46 damage
AW90
Charlotte: 577 * 1.19 = 686 / 2 = 343 - 300 = 43 damage (x1.2 = 51)
Assuming Hores's AW growth rate attack is same as Carry
Hores: 776 * 1.19 = 923 / 2 = 461 - 300 = 161 damage
Requires Charlotte attacking 3 times faster to do more damage than Hores
Going back to skill activation, attack ignores armor.
Charlotte: 686 * 1.2 / 2 = 411 damage (x1.2 = 493)
Hores: 923 * 1.2 / 2 = 553 damage
Requires Charlotte attacking 12% faster to do more damage than Hores. Which she does, hence she's better during skill activation.
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Updated the post in my signature with the spoiler drop rates. The 50/5 map is better than Phalanx 2 for platinum fairies if anyone is interested in those and Nenya more than Ricca. The plat armour drop rate is pretty poor compared to past events that dropped them (guess they wanted to make the Monday map relevant with its 0.8 drop rate per 24stam, which wasn't too impressive compared to the event maps with 0.72 and other assorted goodies).
@TieSKey:
I wouldn't mind seeing a screenshot of your team members. Though this is mainly something to sate my curiosity.
Updated the post in my signature with the spoiler drop rates. The 50/5 map is better than Phalanx 2 for platinum fairies if anyone is interested in those and Nenya more than Ricca. The plat armour drop rate is pretty poor compared to past events that dropped them (guess they wanted to make the Monday map relevant with its 0.8 drop rate per 24stam, which wasn't too impressive compared to the event maps with 0.72 and other assorted goodies).
It's a percent. A character with 10 magic defence reduces magic damage by 10%. For example, Carrie will take 450 damage instead of 500 from a regular lich.
@TieSKey:
I wouldn't mind seeing a screenshot of your team members. Though this is mainly something to sate my curiosity.
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Thx for the drop info as always.
U asked for it, don't repent
Edit: fixed image tag
Thx for the drop info as always.
U asked for it, don't repent
Sorted by lvl.
A lot of silvers (Calliope and Elaine), Stray, a spare Bera and a useless plat Karma on the very bottom.
A lot of silvers (Calliope and Elaine), Stray, a spare Bera and a useless plat Karma on the very bottom.
Edit: fixed image tag
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Tried 60/5 map 4th time and got 1 Plat HA and 1 plat Fairy. While i do not get Nanya which is what i want i am still happy.
Tried 60/5 map 4th time and got 1 Plat HA and 1 plat Fairy. While i do not get Nanya which is what i want i am still happy.
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Slightly late to the party, but one more huge difference between Charlotte and Hores, is that the former has a skill with short duration / short cooldown, whereas Hores has around double the duration / double the cooldown and double the initial delay.
I have been using Charlotte instead of a princess (which I don't have) and 12 seconds of skill was usually enough to take the high def target I aimed at (only time that didn't work well was on final Sorano event map, with Efreets). With her relatively high cost Hores can sometimes not get the skill up in time, and most likely you will get to use it only once per battle.
Slightly late to the party, but one more huge difference between Charlotte and Hores, is that the former has a skill with short duration / short cooldown, whereas Hores has around double the duration / double the cooldown and double the initial delay.
I have been using Charlotte instead of a princess (which I don't have) and 12 seconds of skill was usually enough to take the high def target I aimed at (only time that didn't work well was on final Sorano event map, with Efreets). With her relatively high cost Hores can sometimes not get the skill up in time, and most likely you will get to use it only once per battle.
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TGSmart posted their interim announcement. Here's where the 4 themes currently stand. Vote for Theme B~♪
1st: Theme B (8702 votes)
2nd: Theme D (6573 votes)
3rd: Theme C (4946 votes)
4th: Theme A (3972 votes)
I'm glad Theme B is in the lead. It's fortunate they didn't make just one of these themes ロリ/貧乳 (Loli/DFC); that character would've received the highest concentration of votes from a very special core of Aegis players. Vote for Theme B~♪
In any case, I would like to remind everyone that you can vote for the theme you prefer once a day
EDIT:
I just realised something that I never thought about: is it possible to get skill-ups and cost downs if you don't get a level-up when you feed units to each other (not rainbow/time fairy)? I don't recall ever getting a cost-down for Hector and Russel in any of the instances they didn't receive a level up, and I can't find any information on the wiki on whether a level up is necessary.
TGSmart posted their interim announcement. Here's where the 4 themes currently stand. Vote for Theme B~♪
1st: Theme B (8702 votes)
2nd: Theme D (6573 votes)
3rd: Theme C (4946 votes)
4th: Theme A (3972 votes)
I'm glad Theme B is in the lead. It's fortunate they didn't make just one of these themes ロリ/貧乳 (Loli/DFC); that character would've received the highest concentration of votes from a very special core of Aegis players. Vote for Theme B~♪
In any case, I would like to remind everyone that you can vote for the theme you prefer once a day
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. Vote for Theme B~♪EDIT:
I just realised something that I never thought about: is it possible to get skill-ups and cost downs if you don't get a level-up when you feed units to each other (not rainbow/time fairy)? I don't recall ever getting a cost-down for Hector and Russel in any of the instances they didn't receive a level up, and I can't find any information on the wiki on whether a level up is necessary.
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Of course that's not the only instance, most of event units, I end up running out of platinum fairy before maxxing, hence it happens semi-often.
Predicted B winning since day 1.
1st: Theme B (8702 votes)
Level up is not necessary, Proof was based on Shiho, I was out of platinum fairy so I played the RNG game with single feeds to Shiho to max skills/cost down.
Of course that's not the only instance, most of event units, I end up running out of platinum fairy before maxxing, hence it happens semi-often.
Predicted B winning since day 1.
1st: Theme B (8702 votes)
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Could anyone take a look at my current team and give me some advice on which unit i should invest in order to clear the last Story map ?
Could anyone take a look at my current team and give me some advice on which unit i should invest in order to clear the last Story map ?
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The fact that u can feed a unit to a max level one supports this as the only purpose would then be to gain skill lvls or cost reductions.
The fact that u can feed a unit to a max level one supports this as the only purpose would then be to gain skill lvls or cost reductions.
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If u are talking about the map with 2 or 3 liches, then the answer is Chloe or Anya.
Could anyone take a look at my current team and give me some advice on which unit i should invest in order to clear the last Story map ?
If u are talking about the map with 2 or 3 liches, then the answer is Chloe or Anya.
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First of all - third healer. It is very hard to do this map with just 2 unless your party is super buff. Secondly - need better AoE, so Noel, Pales and maybe even Vallery. Annihilating the final push before Liches is the crucial part of this map. Finally - magic tank, probably in form of Chloe. You might even want two. On Royal Castle Recapture (the map with one lich) you can place your magic tank in backrow, where he is safely handled by three healers. On this map however you want a magic tank in first row, to get first few volleys and a second in backrow, near healers (as you likely want 3 out of 4 front ranged spots filled with mages).
Final word of advice - set different goals for now. Final story mode map is beyond comparison harder then anything else in campaign, your team is sort of long way off from being able to conveniently handle it and there is no special reward (other than a great sense of achievement). Attempting it now would be a waste of resources. I will add that I have cleared this map few months after clearing all other missions.
Having said that - you need a third healer either way, so as a long term goal this is what you can work on.
Could anyone take a look at my current team and give me some advice on which unit i should invest in order to clear the last Story map ?
First of all - third healer. It is very hard to do this map with just 2 unless your party is super buff. Secondly - need better AoE, so Noel, Pales and maybe even Vallery. Annihilating the final push before Liches is the crucial part of this map. Finally - magic tank, probably in form of Chloe. You might even want two. On Royal Castle Recapture (the map with one lich) you can place your magic tank in backrow, where he is safely handled by three healers. On this map however you want a magic tank in first row, to get first few volleys and a second in backrow, near healers (as you likely want 3 out of 4 front ranged spots filled with mages).
Final word of advice - set different goals for now. Final story mode map is beyond comparison harder then anything else in campaign, your team is sort of long way off from being able to conveniently handle it and there is no special reward (other than a great sense of achievement). Attempting it now would be a waste of resources. I will add that I have cleared this map few months after clearing all other missions.
Having said that - you need a third healer either way, so as a long term goal this is what you can work on.
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After spending 7 sacred crystals, I finally got Aria to -2 cost after feeding 4 copies to herself. Now I can forget about these awful Dragonewt Invasion maps, and their awful drops, and focus on the things that truly matter.
After spending 7 sacred crystals, I finally got Aria to -2 cost after feeding 4 copies to herself. Now I can forget about these awful Dragonewt Invasion maps, and their awful drops, and focus on the things that truly matter.
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http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=584917&postcount=2911
The online preorder is currently full, but you can make a reservation in case someone cancels. During the previous winter Comiket, they only provided a black silhouette for Minerva, so there's a possibility that they might do this again for the black summoner.
No information on the black summoner; just a sample image of some of the goods:
http://www.ulmf.org/bbs/showpost.php?p=584917&postcount=2911
The online preorder is currently full, but you can make a reservation in case someone cancels. During the previous winter Comiket, they only provided a black silhouette for Minerva, so there's a possibility that they might do this again for the black summoner.
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Hater. But in all seriousness we have been getting a lot of "petite" characters as of late. I voted twice and will vote again (For B). I feel kind of bad for C because I think it's a pretty good design, but in comparison, monster girl....soooo, B.
Grats on finishing this part of Dragonewt as well. I'm at 290 Dragon Crystals so I'm almost done as well. Drania is so close I can taste her~
Hater. But in all seriousness we have been getting a lot of "petite" characters as of late. I voted twice and will vote again (For B). I feel kind of bad for C because I think it's a pretty good design, but in comparison, monster girl....soooo, B.
Grats on finishing this part of Dragonewt as well. I'm at 290 Dragon Crystals so I'm almost done as well. Drania is so close I can taste her~
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Someone supposedly dug this out from the source code.
Skill Level-Up Percentages:
Compared to a regular unit with the same skill, a rainbow fairy's success rate is a 50% increase from 2/5>3/5, a 100% increase from 3/5>4/5, and a 400% increase from 4/5>5/5.
Someone supposedly dug this out from the source code.
Skill Level-Up Percentages:
Regular Unit: 100%, 50%, 25%, 5%
Rainbow Fairy: 100%, 75%, 50%, 25%
Skill 1/5: 2/5, 3/5, 4/5, 5/5
Skill 1/10: 2/10, 3/10-5/10, 6/10-9/10, 10/10
Skill 1/16: 2/16, 3/16-8/16, 9/16-15/16, 16/16
Rainbow Fairy and Unit Comparison:
Rainbow Fairy: 100%, 75%, 50%, 25%
Skill 1/5: 2/5, 3/5, 4/5, 5/5
Skill 1/10: 2/10, 3/10-5/10, 6/10-9/10, 10/10
Skill 1/16: 2/16, 3/16-8/16, 9/16-15/16, 16/16
Rainbow Fairy and Unit Comparison:
Skill Blue (i.e. 2/5>3/5):
2 units: 75%
Skill Orange (i.e. 3/5>4/5):
2 units: 43%; 3 units: 57%
Skill Max (i.e. 4/5>5/5):
4 units: 18%; 5 units: 22%; 6* units: 26%, 12 units: 45.9%, 20 units: 64%
*Event Unit (70/7 map); 6 sacred crystals (14stam rank 120~139): 0.56** rainbow fairies (30/3 Spirit Rescue Mid-tier 28 trips)
**1.12 with Seria (platinum bandit); 1.4 with AW Seria
2 units: 75%
Skill Orange (i.e. 3/5>4/5):
2 units: 43%; 3 units: 57%
Skill Max (i.e. 4/5>5/5):
4 units: 18%; 5 units: 22%; 6* units: 26%, 12 units: 45.9%, 20 units: 64%
*Event Unit (70/7 map); 6 sacred crystals (14stam rank 120~139): 0.56** rainbow fairies (30/3 Spirit Rescue Mid-tier 28 trips)
**1.12 with Seria (platinum bandit); 1.4 with AW Seria
Compared to a regular unit with the same skill, a rainbow fairy's success rate is a 50% increase from 2/5>3/5, a 100% increase from 3/5>4/5, and a 400% increase from 4/5>5/5.
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