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question tho, is that black healer worth it? or am i good with 2 cc gold healers and 1 cc silver healer. Its either i farm for her or i farm that new level for silver mages to awaken my first units
Yes, Liana is worth it. Her skill removes and protects you from status ailments, which is invaluable, since few characters have status ailment immunity.

They reduced her cost from the advertised 300 down to 250. Getting her to -2 Cost will cost you 650 revival crystals, which is pretty expensive. While Liana has been useful for me at mincost, I don't think it's a good idea to attempt any of her 50% cost reductions. I did calculations when she was 250, and each attempt costs 10~ SC for a rank 200 player. If you fail one, then you lose the equivalent of 50 days of the +5 Cost buff from the shop, which is better value than a single cost reduction for her. I doubt you'll find yourself in a situation where you'll run into more than 10 separate maps spread apart chronologically that you absolutely need a 3-5 cost reduced Liana that would make it more worthwhile to cost reduce her versus purchasing the shop buff, and that's if you have the luck of the devil and get the cost-reduction on your first try (I failed 5 50% reductions when I was attempting Spica's mincost, and 4-5 for Aria's -2 Cost during her first revival event, so that kind of bad luck needs to be considered).

Those goblin warbeasts, that remind me of Mûmakil, are a pain in the ass. I have Echidna, B. Iris, and Louise buffing Anya, and it's a crapshoot whether or not she can tank 2 of those things at the same time. I have to rely on Berenice holding the first one that comes ahead of the cyclops with the sledgehammer without losing my cool and activating B. Iris's skill prematurely so I can keep them bunched together in the top lane for 140 seconds so Patra, Echidna, and Nanaly can cripple them before the defensive skills expire. I'm curious if they have very high HP, or if they also have high defence or magic resistance. Almost thinking that the map might be easier if the top shelf was completely converted to a kill-lane, which is difficult since I need so many characters out to catch the earlier shadows.

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AW Monkey Sage Faa looks like she's wearing nipless (二プレス; pasties).
 
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My Shiho is -3
MUST.
FARM.

I am so glad I decided to 1500 crystals Liana during her oryginal event. First, I have to farm only Shiho now.
Second: Liana is my main healer since long time. Her skill is awesome, making her bossy like Fedora for a short time. Then there is this paralize, which I don't use often but use it nontheless. Last time: for previous subjugation, I healed paralised prince.
Plus, she got awesome skill AW which makes her really pretty amazing. Since I skill AW Liana I don't take 3 healers with me anymore. My main healing party is AW76 Liana, AW46 Sedis, AW50 Pippin/Seria (depends on situation).

Liana has black stats, skill after 5 seconds and gives hp to everyone upon deployment. She is one of my mains I take ALWAYS with me.

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AW Monkey Sage Faa looks like she's wearing nipless (二プレス; pasties).
Did I miss something? @@

I just ate Faa and skill AW'd Ricca (she was 5/10 skill and min cost). I hope it was good decision, after all it is Ricca-chan <3 Now I can come back and 3 star golem story mission. Anyone have on shortcut this video where Ricca wrecks everything?
 
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@Anelai:
Look at the event banner for Faa's AW illustration.

There's multiple AW Skill Ricca strategies. Some of them are designed for free players that need to use Paladin Yurina to tank the mithril golem.

(Ricca Army)
(Ricca and Necromancer)

Inoshishi, Clissa Da and Claudia's illustrator, has this to say about the new enemy type being goblins riding Inoshishi warbeasts


"なにこのイノシシつよい…" (What? These Inoshishi are strong...)

Inoshishi Versus Inoshishi-san. Inoshishi abuses Prince for a month in retaliation for all of the abuse she received over the years.

EDIT: Inoshishi also drew this (semi-not-safe-for-work) illustration of Nendroid Sybilla:
(Inoshishi thinks penises are crème-filled pastries.)
 
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I think lianas only good if whatever boss your fighting is so weak that it wont one shot your rogue/ monk whatever your using to evade the bosses paralysis basically if by chance they get paraylzed lianas the back up to unparaylze them and hopefully that will buy enough time for that boss to die before they get parazled again. with a normal tank I cant imagine being able to kill things with alot of hp that can paraylze like those bone dragons within about 15 seconds since thats the immunity time liana gives unless you have an oped team like Draa.

I think I even tried using urr to kill the bone dragons before and she would just die because they would blast her first upon summoning and then finish her with a basic attack.
 
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ehh if its only for those particular situations then il guess i will just bite the bullet and lose the 3 star then farm her
 
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The reason they reduce the cost of liana.... (300->250 1st / 200 2nd+)
Is because the amount R. crystal u got is less than the usual 100/12 map...

Well its not complaining, but its actualy +ve because they took that 1 item drop spot into rainbow fairy :D and cuz of certain luck i got 2 xtra RF already other than the 1st 100% drop rate. :cool:

Due to this revival i already got my Liana AW ASAP and now she waiting to be CR + max skill and aw skill left :p

Best liana stat @ AW1 (Check the red line)
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Edit: Question: Since Liana is black i'm thinking to use the liana copy from trading post as substitute for plat can, now my question is at what lvl is great for her combined with additonal 3 black fairy OR should i forget the idea and just use plat cans as usual ?
 
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I think lianas only good if whatever boss your fighting is so weak that it wont one shot your rogue/ monk whatever your using to evade the bosses paralysis basically if by chance they get paraylzed lianas the back up to unparaylze them and hopefully that will buy enough time for that boss to die before they get parazled again. with a normal tank I cant imagine being able to kill things with alot of hp that can paraylze like those bone dragons within about 15 seconds since thats the immunity time liana gives unless you have an oped team like Draa.


I have no idea what the you mean there D:

@Petite, I must have missed Faa AW picture, Today I checked update via my phone. I really like this pic but... Am I the only one seeing connection between this and Princess Leia? @@

Thank you for videos! Unfortunately none of them is the one I was thinking of. There was this one video where Ricca shredded completed golem before it reached to any of the tanks. Someone of you posted it here. I will look for this video in m free time (so not soon).

Now I noticed you also talked about subjugation. I will check it out after my Shiho is -5 or at least -4

@Altrius: gz on AW Liana! Although I would not use her as often as I do with such high cost as yours..........

My Shiho eating progress:
Shiho 0: CC35 -3/3

Dinner 1 and 2: CC44 -3/3
Dinner 3, 4, 5: CC55 -3/4
 
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Anyone have idea how strong the elephant in Subjugation mission?

I swore they have lots and lots of HP
 
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@Altrius: gz on AW Liana! Although I would not use her as often as I do with such high cost as yours..........

Thanks, Well she will definitely getting CR-2 in this revival + i might want to try 1 more copy for 50% CR depend on how much SC i need to spend for next stampt. (While farming Rainbow fairy as a bonus :p)

Additionaly I need to use Liana for far range healer and that regen is also a bonus (paralysis healer in some case), so time to start spending some SC on her...

Wishful thinking: If i manage to get tons of rainbow fairy time to max skill G.iris / Claire / Bernice / Raichi / Sedis
Note to self: item collection event should be soon, can't spend too much SC
 
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well I misspelled paralyze twice but other than that should be easy enough to understand liana's 15 second ability is only good if you have an evasion type tank or the only one 50% nullfication unit in the game( I think she the only)? or have overpowered damage that 15 seconds is all you need to kill a boss
 
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well I misspelled paralyze twice but other than that should be easy enough to understand liana's 15 second ability is only good if you have an evasion type tank or the only one 50% nullfication unit in the game( I think she the only)? or have overpowered damage that 15 seconds is all you need to kill a boss

If u want to stretch abit on that duration....
Lets say the enemy need to atk you 3x (dracolich for example)
You can 1st take 2 hit, then Liana skill up for 15s duration immune to paralyst.
Then when the skill gone the boss need to hit you 3x again to paralysis you... this will stretch the duration of geting paralysis longer.

Additionaly 1 of the best way of paralysis immunity on ur unit is their skill duration will not get cancelled.
 
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It cost me some of my sanity but this is worth the 3 SC I've spent to farm Rural Gate for 450k gold:
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I'll say it's worth it because I really wanted Cornelia in fighting form and I want to be able to use her immediately.

@Altrius
We should also be getting some chocolate next month. :p
 
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I must say it is a real pleasure to have multiple events going on at the same time.

Even at the low level my little DMM account is at, having the choice and variation is just plain nice.

Hitting a wall in one place is never an issue as there is always a different place to have fun and a fresh map.

Also the resource accumulation is really good too, the multiple events chips into the growing loot pile with bonus rewards and what not :)

One question though. the yellow crystals, I assume they work as DC and is kept between events even if one does not manage to accumulate the 250 that Liana costs?
 
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I must say it is a real pleasure to have multiple events going on at the same time.

We are mostly happy when there is nothing goin on and we can chill ;D

One question though. the yellow crystals, I assume they work as DC and is kept between events even if one does not manage to accumulate the 250 that Liana costs?

You are correct. Yellow Crystals are revival crystals and are meant to any revival event. Previous dragon Crystals were for Aria/Anya/Echidna only. These on the other hand you can spent on any "active" revival you wish.

@exkale, you should tell me in a month or two how do you feel with Cornelia skill AW. I am still using her regular skill because I wasn't sure what I want more. Same with Anya skill AW, but if I change Anya skill then I am definitelly leaving Cornelia with her regular one. Cornelia is awesome black but I think you wont see it as clearly as I because you have Jelius and Grace...
 
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Yeah , this many event is like an ecstasy for Me
Compare to the suck other *ver*
I probably cannot have Liana , due to My low Lv
Also cannot do the Faa Event

But this is...... really.... something else:D

I'm considering to quit next month
I rather play the JP one instead
 
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@Anelai
It's early for me to say since my Cornelia is not max level like yours, but I believe that her Skill AW is better overall. The duration is the most important part since it allows her to tank for a long time when it is needed. The problem with the regular skill is that it only lasts 15 seconds, even if it really is a powerful skill that affects the whole map. With her Skill AW, I can use her as a very durable lightning-rod vs Lich enemies. Even without the boost from Grace, she can still have 50 MR and that still reduces the damage from a Lich significantly. She doesn't feel like a tank without the Skill AW.

To me, Cornelia's regular skill is like a "Press in case of an emergency" button. It is used to save your whole team from wiping if things get out of control and you want everyone to take less damage. You also need to be able to take advantage of those 15 seconds well, which means being able to put out DPS in that time before everyone takes full damage again. It would be great if it lasts a long time similar to B.Iris' skill.

In my opinion, you should at least change her skill when you are very confident about your team's power. Anya can remain the hard-tank for enemies like the Mithril Golem while Cornelia can be the MR tank for enemies with heavy magical damage. If an enemy with high MR is an issue, then there is always the AW Prince to use since he has the ability to deal significant physical damage with his high defensive power. Cornelia will also actually become a more useful tank with her Skill AW. Without it, she is a high stat fighter with a short duration emergency button.

Even if I got 2 other Premium Black-rarity units, I want to max out Cornelia the most. I will be using everything I can to get her to AW99 even if that means not using anything for Estelle and Grace. She is going to be an important unit for me since she offers me something other tanks can't do, which is 55 seconds of hard-tanking. Jelius is there too, if I need multiple MR lightning-rods like in Memento's event.

Also, AW99 Cornelia can tank the Mithril Golem while using her Skill AW for 55 seconds with a Curse User nearby. The closest unit that can match her duration is Jelius at 45 seconds with his regular skill.
 
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As someone who almost never uses a heavy armor, I also support AW skill Cornelia. Without her AW skill she's a sturdy front-line fighter, but isn't tanky enough to handle big threats. Her AW skill pushes her there. The skill before AW is a nice emergency button but it's the kind of thing you click when you've made a mistake and are hoping for a reversal since 15 seconds is not usually enough time to deal with big threats.

It gets kind of funny if you also have Black Iris. The two can rotate their skills to give Cornelia almost permanent defense x2-x2.5, permanent if you have a rearguard tactician. Or you can use both at the same time and make her practically immune to all physical damage for 55 seconds.
 
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Anyone have idea how strong the elephant in Subjugation mission?

I swore they have lots and lots of HP
Inoshishi Warbeast Stats:
HP:80000
AT (Melee):3200(202f); AT (Range) :250(81f)
DF:2500; MR:10
Includes 0.8 Revision

That makes using an alchemist pointless. Their ranged attack is absolutely pathetic, and can be easily countered with a Feng Shui Devout. However, even with mages, including DPS ones like Patra and Moldevort, it looks like it would be pretty hard to kill them all before they make a complete circuit because their path lets some of them avoid the reach of ranged units placed in the top half of the cliff. Even holding them for 140 seconds with Berenice and having Echidna, Patra, and Nanaly (who can deal 500 chip damage with her skill) only ends with 3 of them being severely crippled. Getting 500 each trip is an utter pain that I'm considering just doing 400 subjugation trips just to save on real time spent on the map. EDIT: Yeah, I'm going to do 400 trips now, I would only save 25 charisma continuing to do the god-tier map. Would rather have it so I can dump my units and afk.




 
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Inoshishi Warbeast Stats:
HP:80000
AT (Melee):3200(202f); AT (Range) :250(81f)
DF:2500; MR:10
Includes 0.8 Revision

What a pain in the ass enemy no wonder I can't kill the last 3 of them :/
 
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Inoshishi Warbeast Stats:
HP:80000
AT (Melee):3200(202f); AT (Range) :250(81f)
DF:2500; MR:10
Includes 0.8 Revision
2.5k is not paper. >>

500/500 with AW thief done myself, Spika, Desperia, Aneria did a nice number on those mobs with waltz + Uzume. Even Leda became useful for killing the last 3 red crystal mob at the left.
Spam enough magical dps and pray works. Managed 2/3 of the way of the circuit, never reached my backup plan-Prince. Though arguably, I should have brought Eshusya instead (but chose not to)

For the record, exkale already cleared it with AW thief, since I was busy with 100/2. Hard mode is fun at times (frustrating at others)
 
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