Best text hooking tool?

[Henlove77]

I usually used VNR because it's ease of use and nice overlay, but I've been having some problems with it and I swapped to the ITHVNR + TA combo. I used it for 3-4 days until, again, I got some issues with it (multi-thread problem). Trying reinstalling both but I keep getting the same issues

I was thinking to swap to others like ChiiTrans/AGTH/Etc? What do you guys find the most optimal choice for the new games's text hooking? I mostly play RPG Maker games with some Wolf games in between

 

[SteelPeel]

Re: Best text hooking tool?

Chiitrans has been my go to when VNR doesn't work it's ridiculously easy to use/set up

 

[djweish]

Re: Best text hooking tool?

Lately I usually stick with VNR. It does have some issues (slowdown if I have certain threads displaying, the occasional crash), but I especially like the built in OCR that lets you mouse over any text that isn't hooked or text baked into images to let you translate it on the fly.

 

[zipetya]

Re: Best text hooking tool?

What issues are you having with ITHVNR+TA? Anyhow.

Sometimes I'd prefer to play in fullscreen, so I use VNR most of the time for said overlay option - making TA window 'always on top' and semi-transparent just doesn't really compare.
Can confirm the very occasional crashes, though. The lag issue mostly happens when threads that are infinitely repeating characters are selected - and VNR is trying to eliminate repetition.

Can't say any good things about the OCR it uses, though. More times than not, it can't grab shit. Guess it depends on the font and background. And if the background is moving.

VNR is a little bit on the bloaty side, I have to admit.

ChiiLite is an alternative you say? Any means to make something other than VNR (including maybe Chii) appear in a nice-looking mostly transparent textbox, on fullscreen?

 

[doob420]

Re: Best text hooking tool?

What issues are you having with ITHVNR+TA? Anyhow.

Sometimes I'd prefer to play in fullscreen, so I use VNR most of the time for said overlay option - making TA window 'always on top' and semi-transparent just doesn't really compare.
Can confirm the very occasional crashes, though. The lag issue mostly happens when threads that are infinitely repeating characters are selected - and VNR is trying to eliminate repetition.

Can't say any good things about the OCR it uses, though. More times than not, it can't grab shit. Guess it depends on the font and background. And if the background is moving.

VNR is a little bit on the bloaty side, I have to admit.

ChiiLite is an alternative you say? Any means to make something other than VNR (including maybe Chii) appear in a nice-looking mostly transparent textbox, on fullscreen?

Pretty much my thoughts. VNR is bloaty, but pretty good. I haven't had crashing issues, but do occasionally have issues where it just does not hook or translate. Chiitrans2 or TA is usually my backup.

But what actual issues are you having, and also what OS are you running (Win 7, 8/8.1(eww), 10, OSX/macOS (EWW!))?

I just had my main computer lose it's shit and be unable to find the boot partition, and let my coworker talk me into Win 10 (I work for an IT company and had a professional fix it) on a trial basis. I will soon find out how these translation programs work, as well as the games themselves. After more than a year of running Win 10 on my laptop, I am guessing pretty well, but we shall see.

*Edit*
Also, did you fully uninstall VNR? There's a script you need to run to fully uninstall it. Otherwise your settings remain, and could cause issues.

And even if so, I've run into issues with VNR on my older Win 7 machines where I could not update it or it would not translate a thing.

 

[Drix]

Re: Best text hooking tool?

Can't say any good things about the OCR it uses, though. More times than not, it can't grab shit. Guess it depends on the font and background. And if the background is moving.

You can still do some tricks like using select + desktop and fiddling with the filters after. Or increasing the capture area as sometimes it doesn't like if the capture is too small.
If its a normal font you can probably get something.

OCR is a lifesaver in more complex games without a lot of hook threads.

The problem with VNR is that it its online and will eventually shut down. And source code isn't on something like GIT and very hard to compile and its linked to the online functionality which would have to be cut so its very unlikely some other coders will pick it up.

 

[Bryanis]

Re: Best text hooking tool?

Seeing this thread remind me of how often there question on the FAQ or random thread about translating tool.
Aren't there a sticky about the various translating tool and hot to use them by now ?
That would help lot of peoples and avid lot of repetition of question / answer.

 

[pleaserefrainfromjudging]

I find AGTH is best for RPG maker games made prior to RPG maker MV. You just create a link for the game, then find the path to AGTH and copy and paste that path into the front end of the "path" of the link, and then add "/C" between the two paths. (/c tells it to put it in the clipboard)

Then whenever you run the game from that link, AGTH fires up automatically.


If it's made with RPG Maker MV, then Libellule has a tool, which is on a thread somewhere on this site. It permanently modifies the game's .exe file, so it will start hooking text whenever you start it.