DLsite Reviews Can't Be Trusted.

[Kyrieru]

Re: DLsite Reviews Can't Be Trusted.

Coming from a company that changed their terms of service when they were called out on breaching their own rules, this is hardly surprising.

 

[dartred]

Re: DLsite Reviews Can't Be Trusted.

Coming from a company that changed their terms of service when they were called out on breaching their own rules, this is hardly surprising.

wait what? please, tell me the story behind this. this has got to be good.

 

[redx]

Re: DLsite Reviews Can't Be Trusted.

look at the ratings. you can already tell you can't trust anything from them.
but i pretty much read the comments here to see if i'd like it worked everytime so far.

 

[jappetto]

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This remind me PC Gamer, where if you post a mex whit an idea opposite to the idea of the editors , your message will be deleted .
Try it lol.

 

[Manamana]

Re: DLsite Reviews Can't Be Trusted.

Don't tell me you people were expecting some manner of moral standard from a company that peddles in rape games and violations of intellectual property.

"It's about ethics in chinese tentacle rape porn!" Keep your outrage culture BS out of my porn, please.

If someone sells eggs, it doesn't mean that he's a chicken, you know.
There is no link between people selling games about rape and their business morality (or even their basic morality). In fact it isn't even about morality, it's more about trust.
Amazon sells adult games in Japan, and I doubt that they delete or change comments like english dlsite.
In fact I think that even japanese dlsite has better standards than that.

 

[Silvar]

Re: DLsite Reviews Can't Be Trusted.

Does DLSite do this to try to reduce any criticism towards a product, as a means of controlling the "hype" with the product? Kind of like what Warner Brothers did with "Shadows of Morder" when launched and LPed on Youtube?

Or is DLSite doing this to restrict communication and constructive criticism from Western gamers on Eastern games? I mean, if they did this with the Maniax site than it seems more like they want to control the "word of mouth" as much as possible on the products in their store -- fair enough (even though kind of icky). But, if this is only done on the English side, then could it be a way to prevent feedback towards Eastern game developers?

 

[Manamana]

Re: DLsite Reviews Can't Be Trusted.

But, if this is only done on the English side, then could it be a way to prevent feedback towards Eastern game developers?

I doubt that, it's even the other way around: the Japanese community is far better informed on the pros and cons of Japanese games than the Western community.
No, as always the best thing to do is to choose the simplest explanation : english dlsite is run by amateurs.

 

[super_slicer]

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Haha, I like how no-one's responding to the morons that are all like "it's PORN guys who cares about their sleezy business practices ".
Yes, I know I just did, but it was in the hope that they would finally realize that they're being intentionally ignored.

edit : jesus christ manamana if you talk to them they'll think their opinion matters! Delete it now! before they see it!

TBH this kind of business practice is all too common anymore, so I'm not surprised. I'd say to put your trust into third-party sites, but even those are losing their credibility (see various mainstream gaming sites for what I mean). At this point you're pretty much left with asking about it in a forum that isn't associated with any of the businesses that might be making profit off of the item reviewed.

 

[Manamana]

Re: DLsite Reviews Can't Be Trusted.

edit : jesus christ manamana if you talk to them they'll think their opinion matters! Delete it now! before they see it!

Sorry, I had the urge to answer that one
I'm an optimist, and I hope that someday they'll understand that selling games with rape doesn't make the seller an evil raper without morality doing shady business.

TBH this kind of business practice is all too common anymore, so I'm not surprised. I'd say to put your trust into third-party sites, but even those are losing their credibility (see various mainstream gaming sites for what I mean). At this point you're pretty much left with asking about it in a forum that isn't associated with any of the businesses that might be making profit off of the item reviewed.

It depends on the platform, but yeah forum with people you can trust is your best bet.

 

[erobotan]

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Guys, just leave DLSite alone ...

We perverts are always under constant fire barrage from SJW and feminist. At our current situation I don't think it's wise to tear down the one and only site who sells porn to the western market uncensored (yea i know japanese do mosaic but I don't mean that kind of censor, what I mean is when they remove stuff, changing age, redrawing the character, etc). Their sales is already terrible with PIRACY and stuff so let this slide, please.

We perverts need join hands together!

If you want to know what the game looks like:

• check the screenshots
• download the demo
• search youtube
• or ask around in this forum lol

 

[Kyrieru]

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wait what? please, tell me the story behind this. this has got to be good.

Well, for starters, when they pay you for game sales they use incorrect exchange rates (aka give you less), and take the difference themselves.

In their terms of service, at one point it said that it could be off by 5, at most. However, after looking at the exchange rates at the time, and their terms of service, I realized that it was off by more than 10, to the point where they were taking hundreds of dollars with each sales report.

When I emailed them about it, they gave me a slightly better rate (but still stealing money), and changed their terms of service so that they could make it off by even more than it said before. As it stands, if you make $1000 you can bet that they'll be stealing at least $100 from you.

As an example, looking back at Christmas sales, they sent me $1346
However, if you look at the exchange rates at the time, they shaved off $126.

 

[Swisher223]

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The only other site/company that changes reviews that I know of is from Tigerdirect. They don't remove criticisms about the product but will remove any negative feedback regarding the service they've provided.

For this case, I think they're shooting themselves in the foot by editing reviews of paying customers and losing their trust. Could have had the same wanted outcome without the possible negative repurcussions had they just made fake reviews, which a lot of companies are doing nowadays.

 

[imercenary]

Re: DLsite Reviews Can't Be Trusted.

Well, for starters, when they pay you for game sales they use incorrect exchange rates (aka give you less), and take the difference themselves.

In their terms of service, at one point it said that it could be off by 5, at most. However, after looking at the exchange rates at the time, and their terms of service, I realized that it was off by more than 10, to the point where they were taking hundreds of dollars with each sales report.

When I emailed them about it, they gave me a slightly better rate (but still stealing money), and changed their terms of service so that they could make it off by even more than it said before. As it stands, if you make $1000 you can bet that they'll be stealing at least $100 from you.

As an example, looking back at Christmas sales, they sent me $1346
However, if you look at the exchange rates at the time, they shaved off $126.

Not to defend DLsite, but thats just how currency exchange works. Try withdrawing foreign currency from an ATM machine. You'll get slapped with a foreign ATM machine fee AND a foreign exchange fee AND you'll probably get a slightly lower than market exchange rate. (And yes, I travel quite a bit and get slapped with these fees ALL the time. There are "ways" to mitigate it *cough*pay more fees*cough* but you can't win.)

Now if you were a multinational corporation that deals with multiple currencies (and the weight to swing around with it) you could bitch slap DLsite into their place ("Yes, the Euro, Yen and GBP have different exchange rates, so give it to me in Euros, Yens and GBPs. No, I don't want you to convert it into USDs, I'll take care of it."), but if you're not... well. YOU LOSE.

 

[Kyrieru]

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Not to defend DLsite, but thats just how currency exchange works. Try withdrawing foreign currency from an ATM machine. You'll get slapped with a foreign ATM machine fee AND a foreign exchange fee AND you'll probably get a slightly lower than market exchange rate. (And yes, I travel quite a bit and get slapped with these fees ALL the time. There are "ways" to mitigate it *cough*pay more fees*cough* but you can't win.)

Now if you were a multinational corporation that deals with multiple currencies (and the weight to swing around with it) you could bitch slap DLsite into their place ("Yes, the Euro, Yen and GBP have different exchange rates, so give it to me in Euros, Yens and GBPs. No, I don't want you to convert it into USDs, I'll take care of it."), but if you're not... well. YOU LOSE.

ATM machines are a different matter entirely. The same costs do not apply when you do a transaction through online banking, or within your own bank. Even then, fees are minimal by comparison. It has nothing to do with how currency exchange works.

Dealing with Paypal, on the other hand, does have wonky exchange rates because they do the same thing as DLsite (it's a know problem with Paypal). However, even paypal will only be off by around 3 as opposed to DLsite, which is often off by 10.

I'd blame them less, if it weren't possible for DLsite to just pay circles in YEN, which would avoid the entire problem entirely. Given that they don't, even when asked, I'm pretty sure that the $4000+ they've made from me in exchange rates has something to do with it.

Of course, the fact that they take more than half of the profit from sales before any of that BS doesn't exactly instill confidence in their benevolence either.

 

[defcab]

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This probably isn't an issue with DLsite itself, but Curious Factory who act as an intermediary for non-Japanese stuff.

It wouldn't surprise me if they're pulling this shit without DLsite's knowledge, in which case the best course of action is to get someone to interpret and bring this up with the main DLsite office.

 

[Kyrieru]

Re: DLsite Reviews Can't Be Trusted.

This probably isn't an issue with DLsite itself, but Curious Factory who act as an intermediary for non-Japanese stuff.

It wouldn't surprise me if they're pulling this shit without DLsite's knowledge, in which case the best course of action is to get someone to interpret and bring this up with the main DLsite office.

Yeah, that's true.

Dlsite still takes a lot from Japanese Circle's profit (from what I've seen in the Japanese circle agreement), but it's true that the exchange rate stuff would be the fault of curious factory.

I always forget to differentiate between the two -__-

 

[azurezero]

Re: DLsite Reviews Can't Be Trusted.

Yeah, that's true.

Dlsite still takes a lot from Japanese Circle's profit (from what I've seen in the Japanese circle agreement), but it's true that the exchange rate stuff would be the fault of curious factory.

I always forget to differentiate between the two -__-

i always thought they were just another department of the same company

 

[iamnuff]

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the very idea of "editing" someone's review sort of defeats the purpose.

 

[stashar]

Re: DLsite Reviews Can't Be Trusted.

the very idea of "editing" someone's review sort of defeats the purpose.

I'm 100% sure this is a cultural miscalculation. We Americans have a rabid obsession with "free speech" that other cultures / countries do not necessarily have.

 

[Ericridge]

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I'm 100% sure this is a cultural miscalculation. We Americans have a rabid obsession with "free speech" that other cultures / countries do not necessarily have.

Scariest part is this is probably the true reason why reviews gets edited.