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[lurker]

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A completely unknown necropolis was found in the Valley of Kings in Egypt. They discovered 50 new mummies.

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What gets me is that they discovered it in one of the valley's most thoroughly-searched corners, meaning that for decades it's been right beneath their feet and nobody knew.

Clearly it hadn't poked it's head up and screamed 'Boo!' yet.

 

[XSI]

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NASA: North Korea is on fire

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Pretty sizeable chunks of it anyway

 

[lurker]

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Meanwhile, in Korea:

'We have recently invented a new air conditioning system for the country!"

 

[Gaara29]

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Part of me keeps thinking "How did this even happen?" despite knowing a good answer given by the article and the fact that this is North Korea we're talking about here.

 

[XSI]

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Islamic extremists kidnap whole busloads of girls with the intent to sell them

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In Africa, of course. Slavery is still very much real
Sucks really badly for everyone involved

 

[MrMe]

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Good to know the originators of the slave trade have still got it

 

[XSI]

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Do you use toothpaste? Soap? Sunscreen? Shampoo? Have plastic toys?
And you're male?
Well. Oops

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Chemicals in those may be destroying your sperm
And they may have been doing it for a long time now

 

[Hentaispider]

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[lurker]

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H.R. Geiger, creator of awesome creepy like the xenomorphs, has met his end, alas.

And it wasn't even was a chestburster. Shame.

 

[XSI]

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Firefox is now putting in closed source DRM control

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Completely unacceptable to me, utter failure. Will wait for the pirate/DRM free version and distribute it to as many users as possible

Also looking for a good new open source browser to use

 

[Nunu]

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You say that it's unacceptable XSI, but I think mozilla actually have a good point.

And that point is that a person making a website can just tell their site to not display on mozilla. Whoops too bad, now all the major services just dont work on the browser. So the alternative to having managed content is not having that content at all. You can see their reluctance but they literally dont have another option.

 

[Lurker_01]

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Gonna throw a link from another website with a vision of the situation

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btw XSI

Spoiler

if you love old style(pre-australis) firefox you could use

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[Gaara29]

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You say that it's unacceptable XSI, but I think mozilla actually have a good point.

And that point is that a person making a website can just tell their site to not display on mozilla. Whoops too bad, now all the major services just dont work on the browser. So the alternative to having managed content is not having that content at all. You can see their reluctance but they literally dont have another option.

Yeah I kind of agree. I mean, yeah, it sucks, but it's the lesser evil here. Then again, I try to look at the bright side.

Also, as a person who loves trying different browsers(and software in general)out, I'll check out Palemoon. Chances are definite I'm sticking to FF, but I just love trying out things I never have. So, thanks for that bit of info, Lurker. It looks pretty neat.

 

[Hentaispider]

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You say that it's unacceptable XSI, but I think mozilla actually have a good point.

And that point is that a person making a website can just tell their site to not display on mozilla. Whoops too bad, now all the major services just dont work on the browser. So the alternative to having managed content is not having that content at all. You can see their reluctance but they literally dont have another option.

Even if it's unavoidable in the long run - which I'm anything but sure it is - it seems premature to do it now, since I'm fairly certain it's not yet problem anywhere.

 

[XSI]

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So the alternative to having managed content is not having that content at all. You can see their reluctance but they literally dont have another option.

Then I'll pick no content at all and just not use any website that pulls that
If they have to put DRM like that in, then chances are it's not worth watching/getting the content anyway
And if it is, there's plenty of people like me, but then some with actual computer skills who will pirate it and then share

Out of principle, I completely refuse allowing any DRM in browsers I use

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if you love old style(pre-australis) firefox you could use

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Yeah, I found that one looking for open source browsers. I'll wait until Firefox actually puts in the DRM stuff before I switch over though

Also, some more news:

NSA puts Israel's safety above the US' safety

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This after Israel has already done enough to the US that a US war declaration and invasion would be considered merciful

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Enjoy your capped internet, USA

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Sure, they're high caps...For our current standards. As technology moves on, files get bigger, and eventually these caps will be too low to properly function with them

 

[Gaara29]

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Then I'll pick no content at all and just not use any website that pulls that
If they have to put DRM like that in, then chances are it's not worth watching/getting the content anyway
And if it is, there's plenty of people like me, but then some with actual computer skills who will pirate it and then share

Out of principle, I completely refuse allowing any DRM in browsers I use



Yeah, I found that one looking for open source browsers. I'll wait until Firefox actually puts in the DRM stuff before I switch over though

Also, some more news:

NSA puts Israel's safety above the US' safety

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This after Israel has already done enough to the US that a US war declaration and invasion would be considered merciful

And
Enjoy your capped internet, USA

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Sure, they're high caps...For our current standards. As technology moves on, files get bigger, and eventually these caps will be too low to properly function with them

I admit, I'm still partly confused about the DRM thing. From what I saw in the article it's some required thing to allow people to connect to, say, Hulu or Netflix. I get what DRM itself is, but is it gonna be like that for FF? Maybe I'm not reading things right here.

For the second thing about capped internet, I'm actually interested in discussing this.

First off, ISPs can be way worse than that depending on where you live. I once knew a guy who had all the money he could want or need but he lived in an area where the best ISP was a place that had dial-up tier speeds. Had to leave his Xbox 360 on overnight to download an add-on for a game, stuff like that. Where I live you will find that Century Link and Comcast are the best ISPs you can get. Every other ISP in this area is a satellite internet provider with allotted bandwidth ranging from 20-50 GB a month, and you can(and I have...)get people on the phone that sound like you're literally talking to a stereotypical foreign indonesian type guy out in a straw hut in the middle of nowhere.

But even Century Link had a problem. The thing is, I used to think terribly of Comcast because a friend of mine once told me how he regularly got messages over the net from them or letters and whatnot to stop illegal downloads. I thought they'd be strict and controlling, whereas CL never gave a crap about anything I did.

The problem was that even though CL provided me with unlimited bandwidth, they gave me a max of 1.5 MB in speeds, which I usually didn't even reach unless under the most optimal network conditions at a given time, and the bill fluctuated every month. Some it would be in the area of sixty something dollars, others it'd be almost $80. And all those extra charges were literally labeled on the bills as "Extra Services" that we weren't told anything about. Comcast doesn't pull that shit and they give me faster speeds at the cost of sticking with a 300 GB a month bandwidth cap for around what I paid CL monthly on average. But again, that's infinitely more preferable in my book than paying around $90 to an ISP for satellite internet with a 40 GB monthly cap that they assure me is probably not going to run any online MMOs well on beforehand. And I've yet to have any conflict with them over anything.

As far as the cap goes, right now 300 GB a month is quite sufficient for me. To be honest, I can't think of any person that wouldn't be able to put up with that as enough on a monthly basis unless we're talking someone who downloads massive stuff through torrents 24/7 or a large family that runs everything, including TV through Netflix, on their internet. Granted, he was old, but I once talked about this very thing with a pretty old guy who worked as an apartment manager for some guy down south of me. Said he uses one of those decent cost but low bandwidth ISPs and all he really uses it for is email.

Granted, I acknowledge that this is all me shoving my personal experiences and opinions into it, but I just don't think it's too big a deal. I heard that some branches of Comcast elsewhere in the U.S. provide unlimited bandwidth monthly, but just as well there are branches that currently provide less bandwidth than what that article is describing. Looking at the article, again bringing in personal experiences, $10 for fifty gigs is actually pretty excellent a deal because some satellite providers will charge you a dollar a gig(no seriously, I looked into them before deciding on Comcast...they flatout described this asinine token thing to me that was a dollar a gig).

In short, this'll be a minor blow at best to the areas that have unlimited bandwidth(PLEASE do not quote me on this, this is just what I heard from a good friend of mine out of state, he said they never had a cap for him and his family), yet a major improvement for the areas that have 300 GB monthly or maybe even less(I'm assuming that, depending on where one lives here).

And while I'm whoring out my own personal stories, I don't even hit the 300 GB a month cap myself despite regular, just not constant, large downloads.

 

[XSI]

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US internet stuff

I will admit that I don't know much about US internet, but if an ISP would try what I linked in the article in Europe, they would quickly lose all their costumers and then either close down and change policy

Over here, 50mb/s and no cap is considered a normal, perhaps even low speed to have for your internet(I personally have 50mb/s, but I could have gotten up to 150mb/s without paying a fortune). I've heard a lot of horror stories about US internet and to be honest, even those stories about "It's not that bad" sound to me like "It really is that bad, but at least there's still internet"

So what might be good news for the internet in the US, sounds like an awful limitation to someone in Europe

 

[Gaara29]

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I will admit that I don't know much about US internet, but if an ISP would try what I linked in the article in Europe, they would quickly lose all their costumers and then either close down and change policy

Over here, 50mb/s and no cap is considered a normal, perhaps even low speed to have for your internet(I personally have 50mb/s, but I could have gotten up to 150mb/s without paying a fortune). I've heard a lot of horror stories about US internet and to be honest, even those stories about "It's not that bad" sound to me like "It really is that bad, but at least there's still internet"

So what might be good news for the internet in the US, sounds like an awful limitation to someone in Europe

That's actually funny, because that would be the opposite over here. To many here in the U.S., to have 150 MB speeds(or even just 50 MB/s speeds)AND unlimited bandwidth would be like some kind of godsend or massive advancement.

I was just speaking in regards to my personal views and what people use the internet for in general, though. Some only use it to check email and use an instant messenger. Some just use it for Facebook and the like. I use it to download anime, games, live action stuff, and all kinds of other stuff from e-books to just porn on top of surfing and I usually never even reach the cap they've set for me. I think the most I ever got was the first month I had Comcast, I had no internet for a year because of an old bill I had to pay off and a massive backlog of stuff to grab, and I still didn't hit the cap by the end of the first month.

I'm not arguing against your personal views at all when I say this, but some users over here would look at your speeds and unlimited bandwidth and think "Dear lord, what could anyone need that much for". Even I think there's no real problem, but that's because I'm a total data whore and I keep track of the general estimated file size of anything I download in bulk(common size of a 720p episode of anime or the likely size of a game's ISO for example). Even without a bandwidth cap I always kept track of everything, so it's not like it's any different now. At the same time, though, I acknowledge that it's great to have all that freedom in regards to your internet.

Probably the most I can say as an honest response to you is that it is what it is over here and people just try to make the best of it. At the very least this'll be an improvement over what some people here already have.

 

[Tassadar]

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I will admit that I don't know much about US internet, but if an ISP would try what I linked in the article in Europe, they would quickly lose all their costumers and then either close down and change policy

Over here, 50mb/s and no cap is considered a normal, perhaps even low speed to have for your internet(I personally have 50mb/s, but I could have gotten up to 150mb/s without paying a fortune). I've heard a lot of horror stories about US internet and to be honest, even those stories about "It's not that bad" sound to me like "It really is that bad, but at least there's still internet"

So what might be good news for the internet in the US, sounds like an awful limitation to someone in Europe

ISP companies own the lines in the US. We don't get alternatives unless we pay out of pocket for new lines, which is really expensive and often not available at all, or go to a different service entirely, which usually means a downgrade and a long period without any access at all while the new service sets itself up.

 

[Nunu]

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That basically is the internet in australia. Y'all complain about what i have to deal with every day.