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I'm not even surprised that Pfizer is doing this, or that someone decided this was the straw that broke the camel's back for someone, and they wanted to expose it. What does surprise me is that the guys who put together the vaccine seem to be okay with this. I mean, how hard would it be for those guys to refuse to work and then collectively go to the local news and the competition and expose that shit? Ethics be damned when a dollar is to be made, I guess.
Pfizer has apparently done this sort of thing before multiple times with other 'products', and used lawsuits and legal force to try to force people to stay quiet(Not unusual for pharma companies either). There have been threats to doctors who said their stuff was bad, and at this point it's pretty sure that if any of their staff quits due to ethical objections they need to find an entirely new job. Other pharma companies can be just as bad, or worse, and if they quit they're in debt due to their education as a specialist with no way of clearing that debt.

Business has a lot of experience with abusing the legal system to keep their secrets hidden, or just faking tests to declare something safe when it isn't.
 

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And there's what trusting people gets you.
 

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Pfizer has apparently done this sort of thing before multiple times with other 'products', and used lawsuits and legal force to try to force people to stay quiet(Not unusual for pharma companies either). There have been threats to doctors who said their stuff was bad, and at this point it's pretty sure that if any of their staff quits due to ethical objections they need to find an entirely new job. Other pharma companies can be just as bad, or worse, and if they quit they're in debt due to their education as a specialist with no way of clearing that debt.

Business has a lot of experience with abusing the legal system to keep their secrets hidden, or just faking tests to declare something safe when it isn't.
I mean, the phrase "FDA-approved"doesn't mean anything. It just means the FDA has decided that the side effects aren't harmful enough to warrant withholding something. There definitely needs to be stronger rules with respect to how these companies conduct themselves in the future. The problem is going to be how much they can intimidate their employees into being quiet.

Let me pull up the dozens of anecdotal cases where anti-LGBTQ+ persons were caught doing something immoral so we can continue this shit-flinging contest.

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Allegedly, several Republican senators and FOX News were in on it, as well. It would explain the slant in messaging from that side in recent months.



Putin's rebuttal is a timid "he who smelled it, dealt it."
 

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Yay partisan left accusing the partisan right of colluding with Russia is a thing again! If at first you don't succeed 🤣
I wonder we're getting a re-run .
 
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Two things on that one
First, Trump was at the least entertaining sometimes with either his stupidity or the stupidity he inspired in others
Second, CNN isn't really news, it's entertainment

So if their top star leaves, is it any surprise that they lose viewers?
 

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Of course, say what you want about the man but you can't deny he draws an audience and they're also coming off election drama high. As are all msm. My point was that they're just serving up the last nothing burger they can flavor red or blue that got them views.
 

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A cargo ship got stuck in the suez after drawing a giant dick pic on the map
 

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Of course, say what you want about the man but you can't deny he draws an audience and they're also coming off election drama high. As are all msm. My point was that they're just serving up the last nothing burger they can flavor red or blue that got them views.
For posterity, what you're saying is, if an intelligence committee has evidence that says Russia worked with outlets like FOX, it's "fake news." However, if a highly-questionable source claims to have Hunter Biden's laptop, allegedly approached multiple senators (none of who have colluded the story), and the FBI (who, again, haven't actually colluded the story and have, to my knowledge, not seen the alleged contents of), and only Trump's very unreliable lawyer was seen as a trustworthy individual to present this thing to, then it's a 100% true and we shouldn't question it at all?

Do you not see the double standard, bud?



A cargo ship got stuck in the suez after drawing a giant dick pic on the map
Was the cargo ship full of sex toys? This story can only get better if it was full of sex toys. Or, uncensored Japanese porn.

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Now, I'm not saying there is a "guilt by association" situation going on here, but I really have to wonder how many white supremacist flags were being waved there and how many people were looking around and asking themselves "seems a bit white, doesn't it?" But, as I said, that doesn't necessarily indicate there is necessarily a connection between the capitol riots and white supremacists, right?


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Bit out of the loop there. Unsurprising since you've gotta work hard to keep the russiagate dream alive.
 

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Was the cargo ship full of sex toys? This story can only get better if it was full of sex toys. Or, uncensored Japanese porn.
Take your pick for things to make it better-
It claimed strong winds blew it off course into the shore, blocking the canal. No other ships had problems with this wind
The same ship rammed a stationairy German tug in 2019, again citing strong winds
Flies the Panama flag, so you'd think they knew how a canal works
Only one excavator and like two men working on digging it out. Maybe this is standard procedure, but it sure sounds like a blockage like this would be a higher priority than two men and a digger
All of international shipping going around the cape because it's still blocked

 

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Now, I'm not saying there is a "guilt by association" situation going on here, but I really have to wonder how many white supremacist flags were being waved there and how many people were looking around and asking themselves "seems a bit white, doesn't it?" But, as I said, that doesn't necessarily indicate there is necessarily a connection between the capitol riots and white supremacists, right?
Oh noes, not the confederate and libertarian flags!!!!!
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Flies the Panama flag, so you'd think they knew how a canal works
The flag a ship sails under doesn't mean much, other than what laws apply on the vessel
Panama doesn't give shipboard workers much in the way of worker's right, which is why so many ships sail under it.

The ship was actually owned by the Japanese and all the crew were... *drum roll* Indians.
 

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Oh noes, not the confederate and libertarian flags!!!!!
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I mean, should we even give a shit if they are what the left labels as white supremacists anymore? They've devalued the term so much by using it for their heretic hunts that it basically means someone who's not part of the hive-mind at this point. Better yet, is being bigoted the ultimate sin? Personally I'm more worried about actions like murder or rape than someone thinking less of people because of their skin color or using racial slurs. Maybe prioritizing misdeeds by the amount of measurable negative impact is just old-fashioned thinking though. I think from now on it's a good idea to disregard anyone that whines about wacism as they're simply attempting to generate victimhood bucks and that's a currency I don't accept.
 
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Take your pick for things to make it better-
It claimed strong winds blew it off course into the shore, blocking the canal. No other ships had problems with this wind
The same ship rammed a stationairy German tug in 2019, again citing strong winds
Flies the Panama flag, so you'd think they knew how a canal works
Only one excavator and like two men working on digging it out. Maybe this is standard procedure, but it sure sounds like a blockage like this would be a higher priority than two men and a digger
All of international shipping going around the cape because it's still blocked

Is that the Kamchatka?

The flag a ship sails under doesn't mean much, other than what laws apply on the vessel
Panama doesn't give shipboard workers much in the way of worker's right, which is why so many ships sail under it.

The ship was actually owned by the Japanese and all the crew were... *drum roll* Indians.
Okay, so it is the Kamchatka. All reports stated it sank with no survivors, but that barely means much when a ship as cursed as that is involved.

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>I mean, should we even give a shit if they are what the left labels as white supremacists anymore?

I personally believe we should remain ever-vigilant for those kinds of people. If they have ideas that are harmful to others, yeah, we should be concerned enough to point them out in a crowd and seek to make the general populous aware of them and what they stand for.

>They've devalued the term so much by using it for their heretic hunts that it basically means someone who's not part of the hive-mind at this point.

And people like you have fallen into the trap of adopting the same strategy, that being to call anyone who says something that follows the mainstream narrative or doesn't buy into shitty conspiracies by shitty lawyers as "lefties." The fact you don't recognize this about yourself would make it humorous if not for the fact that it's actually damaging any decent discussion about actual issues.

>Better yet, is being bigoted the ultimate sin?

I would say it's not the biggest, but it's easily a likely starting point to bigger sins. Everything starts somewhere. Bigotry just begets further bigotry, which often evolves into actions against the focus of the bigotry. We're all going to have our perceptions of something, whether it be a chocolate bar or a group of people. The effort shouldn't be to condemn those who are different or intolerant, but seek to educate the intolerant ones and help the different ones find their place. And, in the case of those intolerant who present strawmen arguments and cherrypick those situations that aren't the norm, we acknowledge them at every turn and point out their bullshit. It's not about forcing anyone to adhere to the narrative as much as it is discouraging intolerance while setting a standard for society. Maybe the new standard should be a pro-acceptance movement of all persons so long as they don't seek to harm each other? I'm sure we all can get behind that, yes?

>Personally I'm more worried about actions like murder or rape than someone thinking less of people because of their skin color or using racial slurs.

If it were limited to racial slurs and opinions of a group, then there would be little to talk about. Unfortunately, it's not just slurs and cognitive discontent. Or, do you actually believe that guy in Atlanta only had a "bad day" despite posting that he would be killing all Asian's on his facebook? And, that's not even a rarity right now. It's just the most appalling in the current political climate. It's an easy story that involves a minority population in the US, and is relevant to the current crisis going on right now. Asian's were killed by a man with a history of anti-Asian facebook posts. Anyone who is anyone can see that this story got pushed ahead of every other racially-motivated crime of the week because it was the most volatile. It would resonate with an audience, no matter who was watching.

The media being obviously manipulative aside, it doesn't dismiss the fact that the crime was motivated by bigotry and not because the guy was having a bad day. Although, if you want to insist that nobody in the US is ever racist, then we can spin this and say that people in the US are all one bad day away from going Arthur Curry, and we should nuke them to high Hell so we don't risk an international crisis. Does that help you, champ?

>Maybe prioritizing misdeeds by the amount of measurable negative impact is just old-fashioned thinking though.

You're not saying that, though. You're saying we should disregard elements in our society who might graduate from racial slurs and thinking ill of others, to full-out slaughter and persecution. I mean, sure, and we can have 200 more Columbines and whatever dumb name the Atlanta thing gets, and you'll be merry and say the issue is just not enough emphasis on the people committing these crimes. There needs to be a process of observation and risk-assessment, then intervention when necessary. As it stands, the US has such a piss-poor record of getting beyond the observation part that it's impressive that the entire country hasn't descended into anarchy at this point. Although, given the clearly sarcastic tone of most Republican politicians as of late, it wouldn't surprise me if that's a very probable situation in the very near future.

In other news...

Apparently, things such as "excessive force" have been broadened. It's a mixed bag, so we'll have to see if it sets a precedent or establishes a new norm for police behaviour.

It also cuts the time people have to request an absentee ballot, as well as limiting where ballot drop boxes are placed and when they can be accessed. I do have to say, it does seem incredibly sus that this also follows what was allegedly a record turnout of black Georgian's voting in the last election. It's all hearsay at this point, but it does strike me as a bit odd that a sweeping regulation like this was somehow crucial for Georgia to pass.
 

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Both the rapper DMX and Queen Elizabeth's husband Prince Philip have passed away today. R.I.P

 

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Quite the honey trap ( I think that's the right term, or is it catfishing? ). O'keefe has a pretty clear vendetta against CNN and isn't going to stop until he gets blood. What's next? Video of Zucker admitting he's using CNN to incite low-grade warfare to his wife when suddenly she pulls off a mask and it's really James O'keefe ?
 
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Not like anyone still watches CNN at this point
It's got a worse rep than Fox by now
 

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If the trend keeps, in 4 years this shit award show will have less than a million viewers and then they'll have to fill the timeslot with something else, right? I'm not even sure who watched that nonsense before it was woke.
 
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