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RPG Unknown/Hiatus Malise and the Machine - Public Demo Available Now!


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censuur said:
How about actually reading the post you're replying to, rather than just making shit up to your own convenience. You've addressed none of the points raised and are once more beating up a strawman of your own making that has no relevance or bearing to this discussion. Are you really this hopeless? Shall I just give up and let you wallow in the quagmire of your own making? Do you just have no interest in solving the problems you've created and prefer to just swat at phantasms for your own satisfaction?
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YES. Please, go away dude.
 
Well I supported this when this was still pay per large update and cancelled it when this turned into montly subscription fearing my investment wouldn't get me better results. While I am not salty enough to go full "Divine Arms" towards you I can understand all the backlash you are getting. The problem is all your work, sweat and tears into your product might be genuinely true and sincere, but for all we know it's all bloated and false. Not saying this is a scam of any sorts and truly I still believe in this project, but the only thing I have is that I have to take your word for it without any proof and this sort of practices will get people triggered.
 
I love how you're completely ignoring me, who's trying to give you a helpful suggestion, and provoking the guy who's actually hating on you...
 
I'm poking my nose where it doesn't belong, but is this another one of those cases that someone is mad that people are not investing in them because all of the evidence of progress is hidden until people invest?
 
Eromancer said:
That's the problem. There is abundant evidence that proves otherwise. Three to four Patreon posts a month. You are actively choosing to believe otherwise simply because you don't want to support the project, and instead choose to harass us and sling false accusations.
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Im Pretty sure you would get more Beloved *Patreon* Funding if you would make every 1-3 Month a small update what the Heck you are doing there.
Not Communicating(PR) to the not actively choosen will not help to Support the Project Beyonde its Momentan Funding, maby you wouldnt need to put that 1k Dollars from your own Pocket.

People do NOT "Haras" your Project because they hate it or want to be negative about it. people who do not care do NOT POSTE at ALL.
Its the People who CARE poste there concerns here you have to UNDERSTAND THAT.

You Sound really LOADED as FUCK when i compair your First Posts with the Latter once. I really do NOT want you to Feel Bad or something thereof.
As i was here on the First Day of your anouncing with Demos and Shit, Awesome art and Promises. I only see 3 Years Later there isnt much Progress here its not even a Demo out there(was).
I didnt even know you guys made an Overhaul of the Already more then awesome game.

with Regards and Hope for an Speedy Development *because i will and WANT to buy the Full Game
 
Eromancer said:
Yup, sooner than that!
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Alright, I wish you luck accomplishing this goal. I feel you need to get a working demo using the new engine up and running as fast as possible if you want to avoid the Divine Arms fate. I would also recommend bimonthly sprints with clearly defined goals culminating in a released version for the patrons. A couple of such sprints would put you back in the poster's good graces, I believe.
 
Noble 6 said:
I'm poking my nose where it doesn't belong, but is this another one of those cases that someone is mad that people are not investing in them because all of the evidence of progress is hidden until people invest?
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Short answer: Yes. That and failing to see how that is a problem.
 
mayaktheunholy said:
Short answer: Yes. That and failing to see how that is a problem.
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While the Solution would be super easy, Enlit3D does it with his Patreon the whole time, let Patreons see your Progress first, afterwards open it up to the Public, same for Demos, newest version for Patreons a Version behind for Public.

Problem solved...
 
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I'll see you guys when v0.06 is ready.

EDIT: Until then, you know where to find me~
 
I dont get it why is he so Pissed?
People here are trying to get constcructive Critizism and Answers after so many many Month of waiting:(
 
Androsar said:
I dont get it why is he so Pissed?
People here are trying to get constcructive Critizism and Answers after so many many Month of waiting:(
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The Patreon Scammer is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a New Breeding Season and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”
 
Androsar said:
I dont get it why is he so Pissed?
People here are trying to get constructive Critizism and Answers after so many many Month of waiting:(
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He's trying to make US look bad for asking questions he doesn't want to hear, all while escalating the tension, even with people who are arguing in good faith. Seems to me like he's just playing a shtick, feigning to take offense. Then bystanders will go "Oh boy here comes the Patreon Police again" while the dev vanishes (with a damn Rick and Morty gif to top it off WEW lad) without actually resolving the issue.

Captainstarfish said:
The Patreon Scammer is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a New Breeding Season and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”
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Well, i dont think he makes more Profit with this Act.
Its really counterproductive.
The Resolve would be so easy, would have been a lot better if he would post some progress(in game)
*money in the patreon Casher*

Acting childish on the 24 of november and just beeing pissed on possible consumers of the tech-porn they are alegedly posting on patreon
*no money or even worse, lose some patreons who didnt like the behaviour*

Well i think he is really frustrated himself :/
 
Vanity said:
While the Solution would be super easy, Enlit3D does it with his Patreon the whole time, let Patreons see your Progress first, afterwards open it up to the Public, same for Demos, newest version for Patreons a Version behind for Public.

Problem solved...
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I'm pretty sure he understands the concept, but to my knowledge, the progress "proof" behind the paywall is just text reports. If people don't believe his words here, that would hardly change if they see those posts.
At the end of the day, plenty of users seem to trust the project. And if it happens to be all fiction, they'll just drink a cup of fresh water and move on.
 
stoper said:
progress "proof" behind the paywall is just text reports. If people don't believe his words here, that would hardly change if they see those posts.
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There are plenty of pretty pictures too. There's enough there that I feel they're definitely 'working on the game', just maybe not so much 'working towards a demo'. I mean, they ARE working towards a demo, just not a whole lot being said or shown.

if it happens to be all fiction, they'll just drink a cup of fresh water and move on
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Exactly... at least, in my case anyway. Can't speak for all the backers.
 
Why are you people still trying to reason with developers on patreon? You pay, they'll stay. Simple as that. What is the mystery behind it. You are paying them in advance for something that isn't promised. Stop your bitching and speak with your wallets. I'm so tired of saying this.
 
Papanomics said:
Why are you people still trying to reason with developers on patreon? You pay, they'll stay. Simple as that. What is the mystery behind it. You are paying them in advance for something that isn't promised. Stop your bitching and speak with your wallets. I'm so tired of saying this.
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True, true. Though it doesn't hurt to warn people if you think they are being scammed. Patreon gives all the power to the creators, they can manipulate their pages any way they like and there's no option to report shady behavior and warn people on the site. Just look at that Impure guy and see what's happening there.
 
Papanomics said:
I'm so tired of saying this.
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Then stop saying it lmao
True enough, a fool and his money are soon parted, but that doesn't mean there's no point in discussing it. At the very least it'll create some pressure and encourage some to back out, or just force closure to the development-limbo altogether.
 
I've wanted to criticize the new rendering style for a while, but I've been distracted.



*The original is far more readable, for gameplay purposes and personal purposes. She is much better distinguished from the background and her face and expressions are easier to read. This is probably also going to be true with the enemies interacting with her - It'll be harder to see what's happening with all those heavy shadows around.

*The original style is also, I imagine, faster to produce. If you're going to creep the scope graphically, I'd rather you do it by adding animation *instead* of adding realism. You can't do both, it'll take way too long.

*The original style is also further from the uncanny valley. You might have to add more to the skin textures and whatever other polish to keep her from looking like plastic, and that's even more time.


But I'll still fap to this either way.
 
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