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Re: The Last Sovereign [Updated 7/15]

I support Qum D'umpe X Robin, although it does feel like giving Robin a (pink) puppy.
 
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Hmm, does anyone know how you get the shining sword in the slums? I've finished the rest of the content, but the old man outside still won't let me in - he just keeps asking me if I've meddled enough.
 
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All I know is that after a bunch of stuff is completed (don't know the exact requirements) he acknowledges your work and asks you to help him 'evict' the person holed up in the shack. Just progress towards the last event and it should open up.
 
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I am at the last event - as far as I'm aware, the only thing I have left to do is talk to Jenine to finish the update. I'm getting a bit concerned that I missed something and will have to go back and replay the section.

The only thing I can think of is that I read somewhere you can report the unman preacher in the outskirts to Sarai, which I didn't/couldn't do (and the game isn't letting me do now).
 
Re: The Last Sovereign [Updated 7/15]

It might also be due to you not performing well enough in the battle or not doing well enough on the quests. A lot of the shining swords so far have fairly specific requirements and are very missable.
 
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So has anyone had any dealings with the mage talking about seer crystals at the order of thaumaturgy? I imagine it takes you having assigned Robin to research them but I'm hoping someone can tell me what that leads to.

It's one of those things I'm still considering changing in my absurd min/max save since I originally picked researching orcs and ended up with an army way past all the margins for optimal results.
 
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So has anyone had any dealings with the mage talking about seer crystals at the order of thaumaturgy? I imagine it takes you having assigned Robin to research them but I'm hoping someone can tell me what that leads to.

It's one of those things I'm still considering changing in my absurd min/max save since I originally picked researching orcs and ended up with an army way past all the margins for optimal results.

Can buy a material for Robin's custom equipment if you have visited Premium Steel again and asked Robin about it. Can't find other uses yet.
 
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I'm guessing you'll need to have invested in Premium Steel twice for that as well. Premium steel right now still just offers me to invest the second tier for 75.000 pron.

Seems a bunch of things are dependent on previous choices this time around, I heard some talk about an unman religious figure in the outskirts that I imagine requires passing the motion for more unpeople.

Well, either way it looks like I'll need to reconsider some choices made prior to the Ardford summit since my orcish forces were already extremely overpowering (was at least 3 points above maxes on both size and quality >_>) so I should probably have Robin research something else.

That is of course, unless it turns out Robin's research also affects the stats of the orcs Balia cooks up (she does mention Robins help), which I currently have at 8 Strength 7 Intelligence and 7 Discipline (with 6 samples, Orcent, Stark, The Impaler and the one from not doing orc extermination)

I'm also partly wondering if Essence Shielding research does anything this update, whether or not in affects Ginasta in any capacity for example.

And of course I struggle to decide whether or not to continue on with Essence Shielding or Yhilini Magic at this point, it seems like it's a bit late to be doing Yhilini magic and Essence Shielding seems more appropriate so that's what I went with, but I imagine researching Yhilini Magic would provide some kind of benefit in the upcoming order trials.

Incidentally, am I missing something here? The Ginasta fight seems to be completely unbeatable with her healing 600 health every round and ~1900 health + debuff removal every 2 rounds, and this is with a party that defeated even the worst demons the cult throws at you.

Hmm nevermind, turns out she's just extremely resilient to physical damage, team of Robin, Varia and Carina just barely managed it >_>
 
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Re: The Last Sovereign [Updated 7/15]

Nice to see all the speculation, of course, but I'm dropping in to answer one question:


If I gave you the impression that Robin is anywhere near 13, that's my bad. =P She's 19 at the start of the game, so she's 20+ by this point. There isn't a full body portrait of her, aside from the waist-up image like everyone has. Anyway, underage content is not really among my interests, so rest assured that Robin is an adult physically and mentally.

As for your other question, Simon was 55 at the start of the game and 57 as of the most recent update.

I sort of assumed she was younger than that too, though not to the point where i'd call her 13.

As for the Robin/Simon stuff that people keep talking about, I think having someone with a totally diffrent relationship to him is great.

Doesn't mean we can't have scenes with Robin anyway though, right? She could find a nice guy of her own, or girl. It doesn't have to be her dad.

Frankly. I'd like to see a scene where she takes a little private time to unwind. Possibly with the help of some succubus equipment like a vibrator or a rotor.


That reminds me actually, I didn't play the latest part. I've got bunch of catching up to do, since I decided to start over.
 
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I mean, I guess, but I don't imagine schlicking or banging some random, utterly irrelevant NPC dude is really a remedy for wanting to bang a long-standing crush. Also I was slightly trying to avoid spoilers since it's literally only been three days, but I guess that's out the window now. Incest incest, is the best, put your daughter to the test.


Okay, so, it might've been that I just totally missed a buncha shit. Is there only 70% worth of stuff to pump discretionary funding into right now? I assume the next couple chapters will make me regret spending on everything I could right off the bat, but yeah.


And @Sierra: Yeah, I guess one of the biggest issues with it is just the word 'daughter' I guess. And that having a little loli prodigy blasting the shit out of stuff makes her way cooler. It's kinda a bummer that her actual spell list is so standard and doesn't really reflect the kinda experimental wizarding someone well-versed in theory could get up to, but it looks like she's about to get a character arc, so hey, maybe she'll get some shiny new stuff.

There's also the issue of VX's sprites I guess. Like, I remember the PS1 RPG Maker had 2-tile-tall sprites, but these ones are mega-chibi-mode so it's a little bit hard to present certain things like, well, age, I guess.

I mean, the children sprites are obviously children, and Robin's sprite is about the same size as Simon's, so that's a pretty obvious indicator she's not underage... but, y'know, with how tiny and icon-like the sprites are, it's kinda easy to subsume that indicator in favor of having a capable, badass loli daughter, I guess.

MV gets away with it because it has those in-battle sprites, I guess.


Also, there's kinda one scenario I've been imagining awhile, because I'm not sure how it would turn out, which is if a male character got infected like Carina or Aka did. Now, I kinda imagine that that sorta smut is both neither your nor most of the game's intended audience's bag, but I really kinda wonder how Simon would handle it. Like... he's pretty well on the side of good, and I thhhiiiink he mentioned having experimented non-fruitfully in the old days, urged on with his waifu. But how would he and the other guy react to it, would the decision to save or not save them be affected by how important they were (random commoner or soldier vs talented mage or prince, like), stuff like that.

Though, that's all assuming men are affected the same way, I guess. It would be a reasonable assumption that they aren't.


But yeah, I was really digging the platonic thing Simon and Robin had going. I'm not opposed to delicious incest or anything, and it isn't an unreasonable development, considering Simon is sogood, but I'll miss having someone who wasn't there for banging. Uh, besides the green chick, she doesn't count.

Wait, so wouldn't that mean she's the last slot in the combat-character harem? Aw man, I was kinda hoping that would be Riala or something.
 
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Re: The Last Sovereign [Updated 7/15]

Nice update, love it. Will have to replay it more carefully later to understand some options a little better.

So far it looks like researching the Orcs on the first opportunity wasn't really helpful, so I'm considering going back and trying the other 2 options, and then asking Robin to research the orcs in the tunnels.

Dunno how I feel about "you know who" possibly taking the last Combatant Harem slot. I was kind of hoping Ginasta would take it. But you never know, some plot twist may happen in the future or maybe more slots could be added.

The Unpeople Vote starting to look like it may actually somehow work in our favor with helping Dari. This got me thinking, would it even be possible to somehow revert the process and make her normal again?
 
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Robin having a "boring" spell list just seems to reflect the fact that she isn't a combat oriented mage at all, and doesn't spend much time working out new combat spells or refining old ones.

So far it looks like researching the Orcs on the first opportunity wasn't really helpful

It affects the stats of your orcs that Balia makes for you during this chapter (she explicitly mentions Robin's help) though I'm not sure how relevant that's going to be.

I'm actually getting the feeling that the choice in research doesn't really matter so much as it's flavor and that all three choices kind of balance out in the end, but since changes are still very much in progress that's rather hard to confirm.

The Unpeople Vote starting to look like it may actually somehow work in our favor with helping Dari. This got me thinking, would it even be possible to somehow revert the process and make her normal again?

How so? I 'won' every vote so I have no clue what passing on unpeople changes. It's already been hinted at that Simon could potentially reshape Dari but the specifics of that aren't a priority.

As for Ginasta, I'm thinking that if she does join she might not be a member of the Harem (Simon seems to want more normal relations anyway) and as for Riala I get the impression she'd just fall under the 'ruler' tab when we leave her to rule what's left of the Incubus Emperor's domain when we trample him. Still, Riala is a bit of an enigma (being extremely old for a succubus and still utterly potent and we still don't really know how she got the shard) so it's hard to tell. Just wish we get to rescue her sometime soon >_>
 
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Well I have 2 saves, one of them with the Unpeople Vote passing. In this save, in the aftermath of the battle for Yhilin, there's a Shady Unperson on the outskirts trying to recruit people that triggers some sort of investigation from Dari. In the other save this Shady Unperson doesn't exist so there's no investigation triggered.

About the Orc Investigation: Played again with another choice, I chose Essence Shield this time. It looks like it's helpful in the Battle for Yhilin, but more importantly, the Orc scores that Balia gives are exactly the same: 8 7 7. And if you chose Orc Research in the tunnels you can still research the "other" option with Balia, so it's really looking like a complete waste to have Research Orcs as your first research.
 
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That's good to know, looks like I'll have to go back and decide between Essence Shielding and Yhilin mages.

Not sure if I really want to have more abomination unpeople made just to get some scenes with Dari though, and I imagine what she'd be investigating is simply not going to be a factor when you reject the vote.

But who knows, maybe in the end it turns out those unpeople will only be used as shock troops against the Incubus Emperor and you'd get no negative consequences (beside maybe losing affection with your succubi)
 
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Robin having a "boring" spell list just seems to reflect the fact that she isn't a combat oriented mage at all, and doesn't spend much time working out new combat spells or refining old ones.

I suppose. Still thoughhh.
 
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Whoops, let this thread go a while. I meant to reply to some things, though, so I'll do that now.

Downloaded the game looking for sex scenes.

Got a lot of text, humor, and an actual interest in fixing the game world. Simon is probably my favorite character in sex games now. Granted, I'm only up to Stineford now, but so far I'm really loving the story. Great work!
Thanks! Always makes me happy to hear from people who like what I'm going for in this game!

Okay, so, it might've been that I just totally missed a buncha shit. Is there only 70% worth of stuff to pump discretionary funding into right now? I assume the next couple chapters will make me regret spending on everything I could right off the bat, but yeah.
You'll get another increment of discretionary funding every time you finish a section this chapter, actually. Next time you return to Ari-Yhilina you'll have another 100% on top of whatever you left to spend on the new opportunities.

Wait, so wouldn't that mean she's the last slot in the combat-character harem? Aw man, I was kinda hoping that would be Riala or something.
The number of unknown slots is equal to "harem characters introduced + one placeholder" (more or less). So the fact that there's only one empty slot in the combat part of the harem menu doesn't mean there's only one more person in that category.

I'm actually getting the feeling that the choice in research doesn't really matter so much as it's flavor and that all three choices kind of balance out in the end, but since changes are still very much in progress that's rather hard to confirm.
You'll get to research everything in the end, and I hope to balance the choices, but there are differences meanwhile. Selecting "Yhilini magic" early got you a bonus point during the battle, for example, that you won't be able to get later.
 
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The number of unknown slots is equal to "harem characters introduced + one placeholder" (more or less). So the fact that there's only one empty slot in the combat part of the harem menu doesn't mean there's only one more person in that category.

C'mon guys, this should be obvious :p, moreover thanks to the fact that Sierra did stated this, granted it's not here but on the blog.

You'll get to research everything in the end, and I hope to balance the choices, but there are differences meanwhile. Selecting "Yhilini magic" early got you a bonus point during the battle, for example, that you won't be able to get later.

Wait, doesn't that mean indirectly there are best research choices for every opportunity?

Man, balancing them all so none of them felt like a bad wasted choice surely sounds hard, i wish you good luck Sierra, and of course thank you for such an awesome update! :D Stay healthy!
 
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Wait, doesn't that mean indirectly there are best research choices for every opportunity?
My goal is for any choice to be "best" only according to your save and which parts of the game are important to you. For example, in this case:
- Orc research increases your army size and quality, which affects multiple aspects of the battle.
- The essence research gives you the chance to destroy the mage tower during the battle.
- The Yhilini magic research choice grants some invisible points that help more during the aftermath.

Though you'll get the main benefit of all the choices in the end, my goal is for you to get some unique benefits based on the one you selected first.

Other than that, thanks for the kind words. ^-^
 
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So I'm replaying the game because of the changes to Qum's RP if you whore her, which I did initially. I gotta say the 15k ProN you miss from not whoring her (5k + return of investment from Megail) REALLY hurts the early stages of investments.

The investments I made so far: Yhilini Arms Dealer, Premium Steel, Yhilin Bank, Gift to Megail, Mine Processing and Bridge Repair.

The -15k means that I had to give up investing on the Iron Cudgel and the Stineford Magic Shop when compared to my old save.

Without a doubt this will also have a big impact later on with future investments and other game mechanics. Feels really punishing to be honest.

Wouldn't it be possible to somehow rebalance this a little bit? Let's say, make the Yhilini Arms Dealer a little bit cheaper on the pockets (down to 95k from 100k). Some players will choose to whore Qum for the extra money anyway, so to compesate reduce what you gain from whoring her a little bit (2,5k ProN, 7,5k after return from Megail). It's still less overall ProN from what you'd obtain originally (2,5k less to be exact). Doesn't need to be necessarily these numbers or these mechanics readjusted, just a suggestion.

Or maybe make the old lady owner of the whorehouse offer to sell you that 5k laundered ProN for some ridiculous price (let's say 15k sx) if you choose to not whore Qum.
 
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Re: The Last Sovereign [Updated 7/15]

Love the update Sierra, but I'm having an issue with finding Rick's mother. I've checked the wiki (due to frustration) and talked to everyone except for one npc that's trapped in the section above the Succubus Merchant. Fits the description of said missing npc but impossible to reach. Been running at every wall trying to figure out how to get there.

Thanks Sierra.
 
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