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Trapped in the Underdark ~ Out of Character discussion


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Key is she appears mostly normal and I poked Naira to make sure she'd also be played as .. well, a more lewdified version.

could have sworn rakshasa were LE before, oh well.

Anyway, Naira, dun forget you get a full attack (2 x claw +1 x bite, -5 penalty on the bite)
You could also take improved natural attack for either claw or bite, up to you.

either way, Approved, looking good. I can give you an own introduction with Sylvie going to fetch her, or, considering the backstory, she might come and check out the commotion on her own, while I do the sleepytimes? ^^

With that all six pcs are assembled and Ventus will begin introductions and share her rules soon.
 
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Yeah, I technically have a monstrous form too but I think generally I'm going to keep humanish appearances for RP convenience.

Also, Rakshasa paragons apparently count their bite as a primary attack, so would it still incur the -5 penalty?

I like the introduction idea, but if you gotta go do sleepy times soon, I'll take care of things myself and you can fill in the rest whenever you have time.
 
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It's only a -5 if you bite while attacking with a weapon. Natural Attacks, for people who are new to the game, work as follows.

A natural attack, typically Bite, Claw, and Slam, though others exist, is diffrent from standard attacks. You do not get iterative attacks with natural weapons. You can have +20 BaB and you still get one bite attack per head with a bite that you've got. On the flipside, with 20 heads with bites, you can have a BaB of +1 and still get 20 attacks.

Natural attacks are split into two types. Primary and Secondary. They're similar to Primary and Offhand for Two-Weapon fighting.

Primary natural attacks are at full accuracy and deal their damage plus their full strength bonus. Single primary attacks add strength and a half, like for two handing. Some creatures do it anyways.

Secondary attacks take -5 to hit (Unless you have Multiattack, lowering the penalty to -2), and always deal 1/2 strength damage.

A primary attack becomes a secondary if you use a weapon with it. This allows you to get all your iteratives and your natural attacks, assuming they aren't occupying the same "hand." Can't claw and sword swing with the same hand after all.

Rakshasa are LE for the record, but Yaksha can be any alignment, but have a bias towards non-good due to their possessive and greedy, predatory natures.
 
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Zilrax said:
It's only a -5 if you bite while attacking with a weapon. Natural Attacks, for people who are new to the game, work as follows.

A natural attack, typically Bite, Claw, and Slam, though others exist, is diffrent from standard attacks. You do not get iterative attacks with natural weapons. You can have +20 BaB and you still get one bite attack per head with a bite that you've got. On the flipside, with 20 heads with bites, you can have a BaB of +1 and still get 20 attacks.

Natural attacks are split into two types. Primary and Secondary. They're similar to Primary and Offhand for Two-Weapon fighting.

Primary natural attacks are at full accuracy and deal their damage plus their full strength bonus. Single primary attacks add strength and a half, like for two handing. Some creatures do it anyways.

Secondary attacks take -5 to hit (Unless you have Multiattack, lowering the penalty to -2), and always deal 1/2 strength damage.

A primary attack becomes a secondary if you use a weapon with it. This allows you to get all your iteratives and your natural attacks, assuming they aren't occupying the same "hand." Can't claw and sword swing with the same hand after all.

Rakshasa are LE for the record, but Yaksha can be any alignment, but have a bias towards non-good due to their possessive and greedy, predatory natures.
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Yeah, I did some quickie research on natural attacks, and one of the reasons I decided to omit non-natural weapons was to avoid the -5 to hit for my natural attacks.

From what I understood, my bite and claws should come at full bonus (being primary attacks), but I never get additional BAB attacks as a consequence.

And yeah... Yaksha and Rakshasa Paragons didn't say anything about an LE requirement. I assumed since they aren't real rakshasa, they have some differences in things like alignment/powers/appearance.
 
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Pervy said:
Yeah, also, Ventus provides you with your equipment, usually, its not like you can kill her ghostly servant. *chuckles* Anyway, I guess we can presume Jezz having a bit of amnesia due to being hit with whatever restraining magic, Sylvie will pick her up.
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So when we're not on a mission, what's Ventus' clothing policy for her slaves?

Also, does Ventus have a bed? Like with enough snuggle room for her favorite bedwarmers (bedcoolers? i dunno what you'd call an undead version of that job)
 
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Naira said:
Yeah, I technically have a monstrous form too but I think generally I'm going to keep humanish appearances for RP convenience.

Also, Rakshasa paragons apparently count their bite as a primary attack, so would it still incur the -5 penalty?
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Ah didn't know that. You can keep her CE btw, though yeah, shouldn't be extreme chaotic.

So when we're not on a mission, what's Ventus' clothing policy for her slaves?

Also, does Ventus have a bed? Like with enough snuggle room for her favorite bedwarmers (bedcoolers? i dunno what you'd call an undead version of that job)
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Will answer Ic as for bedcoolers.. heh, thats an amusing thought. .. should ask her Ic if you are interested in the.. position. :p
 
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I don't know if Dasyra is quite perverted enough to ask for that position, even though she wouldn't find it too bad. Dasyra knows from the slave auction that Ventus was the one she'd go for with her inhibitions cut off, as does Ventus for that matter. She is wondering if she'd be invited to the bedroom or preferred in a more menial role.
 
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Everyone is invited to the bedroom. Wooo!
 
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So we got to pick our stuff only to now have to sell our stuff. Lovely.
 
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Lorelai will pay the whole price if need be. I can get by on fairly mundane stuff all considered.
 
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cross_grave said:
So we got to pick our stuff only to now have to sell our stuff. Lovely.
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Yeah and you had to write your characters only to now have to roleplay with them, what a bother.
 
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Just saying I'd have preferred to get some mileage out of the item first.
 
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There's the alternative that we go rob some people to pay for it.
 
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cross_grave said:
Just saying I'd have preferred to get some mileage out of the item first.
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Alright, yolo.

this is ment to be a test of character, for your character. Remember the bondage circle with a payback round you did? This is Ventus equivalent of that team building exercise. That you OOC failed it is kind of amusing to me, but should be concerning to you. It's literally all imaginative values.

Penis.
 
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It's not too surprising. In fairness it was kinda tacky of her to put the slaves she bought in position to have to pay for their own slavery, even if just as a test. In the ooc sense taking away items, while it can happen, rarely goes well over with players as it takes away their other effective experience track. They're rather reliant on them after all. And while you might not arbitrarily take things from players... Not every GM believes in that. Not stuff like Sundering and whatnot, that's valid. But things like undetectable rogues and whatnot with unnoticeable slight of hand checks.

Course, a creative jerk gm can do many things without taking items away. I had a gm cus he was annoyed with my CN character not wanting to give a rod of wonder to the CN rogue who was sure to use it rather than do something useful, fused it with my character and so it activated whenever I cast a spell. And he printed off a 1000 dice table to use it. So most the time when I cast something it was more likely to be a hindrance. And I was a sorceror.

Or the time because my fighter was beating up all the rogue mafias the gm had as villains, he made my plate armor into a bomb and forced me to choose between letting nobles getting forced into slavery for a few hours or him exploding my armor because the rogues couldn't hit me. And made it into a scry beacon. Oh and made it so my whole character background was a lie.

So, you know, this sort of leeryness tends to be founded on past experience. Maybe not with you, but everyone brings their experiences with them when they go places. I tend to give the benefit of a doubt on this sort of thing initially so a test is what I figured was happening. But not everyone does that and I can understand the concern from players who've been burned in the past. Don't take it personally, it's a well known touchy subject with players. Death is fixable, gear not so easy.
 
Re: Trapped in the Underdark ~ Out of Character discussion

Pervy said:
Alright, yolo.

this is ment to be a test of character, for your character. Remember the bondage circle with a payback round you did? This is Ventus equivalent of that team building exercise. That you OOC failed it is kind of amusing to me, but should be concerning to you. It's literally all imaginative values.

Penis.
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I am the type of person that, when faced with having to do something, will often procrastinate or complain, but do it anyway. I also tend to always assume the worst first. The fact Lily has no items she can part with without taking a hit to her abilities somehow doesn't help. Yeah, I know, neither trait is exactly a virtue. Still, you'll note I did put up an item into the figurative pot. As for this rumored other method of paying off debt, I have no idea what it's going to be, how successful it will turn out or whether PC's will be ok with it. Dungeon crawls for treasure are one thing, stealing is another.
 
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Zilrax said:
It's not too surprising. In fairness it was kinda tacky of her to put the slaves she bought in position to have to pay for their own slavery, even if just as a test. In the ooc sense taking away items, while it can happen, rarely goes well over with players as it takes away their other effective experience track. They're rather reliant on them after all. And while you might not arbitrarily take things from players... Not every GM believes in that. Not stuff like Sundering and whatnot, that's valid. But things like undetectable rogues and whatnot with unnoticeable slight of hand checks.
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I could literally spawn two rustmonsters and go to town within your CR braket. Then again, I think I never really got annoyed enough with a playergroup to get nasty.. after all we meet to have fun, I rarely do get annoyed by someone overoptimizing their character, but in those cases I just show them how much nastier a DM can optimize something. *chuckles*

Also, you aren't paying for your own slavery, you are already enslaved and don't own goods, technically and Ventus simply respects your equipment, or simply recognizes you are more useful with than without gear.
 
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Not sure how this was meant to be a test, but it will be annoying if legitimately asking about an alternative is a way of failing it. Asking questions to know your options is a good thing.

And looting a dungeon is stealing by another name. Stealing from villains who got gold evilly is different to stealing from people who got it honestly.
 
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Oh of course. The dead don;t need much of their valuables generally. This is specifically a Lorelai issue.

Wee Jas is a goddess of order and law. So obedience to the law and such. Going from a minor LN cleric of Hextor to a cleric of Wee Jas was fairly easy in that sense.

Busting into peoples homes and taking their stuff is not her idea of legal proceedings. Though barging in to stop bad things, and confiscating their stuff because they lost rights to it is more valid.
 
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Well, beyond a certain point of 'we can't steal from target X' you leave C and E territory and go towards exalted.
 
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