Trapped in the Underdark ~ Out of Character discussion
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Or, crazy idea, you actually try to roleplay these things out, rather than asking me for a step by step.
Or, crazy idea, you actually try to roleplay these things out, rather than asking me for a step by step.
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Well, i've been given zero information on the subject, other then it simply existing. So, I thought it would be smart to ask how I could learn more about it, so... you know, I could roleplay it out.
Well, i've been given zero information on the subject, other then it simply existing. So, I thought it would be smart to ask how I could learn more about it, so... you know, I could roleplay it out.
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Trying to get in the mood past all the arguing.
Trying to get in the mood past all the arguing.
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I'm sure she can find a way to breed it, she is a demon after all.
And if it's a vampire, vampires can make dhampirs so... Yeah.
Course that'd be terrifying cus Vampires in base dnd/pathfinder are overpowered as hell for their cr. And kinda schizophrenic in their abilities too. They're sorta a grab bag of like 12 diffrent vampire myths. I use a lower powered more scaling one that's a bit more focused mythologically and is more viable for pcs to use without being ridiculous personally when I run.
I'm sure she can find a way to breed it, she is a demon after all.
And if it's a vampire, vampires can make dhampirs so... Yeah.
Course that'd be terrifying cus Vampires in base dnd/pathfinder are overpowered as hell for their cr. And kinda schizophrenic in their abilities too. They're sorta a grab bag of like 12 diffrent vampire myths. I use a lower powered more scaling one that's a bit more focused mythologically and is more viable for pcs to use without being ridiculous personally when I run.
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If Dasyra became a vamp, I'd have her be too busy thinking about sucking to really notice OPness.
Grab bag powers sound fun. Randomize it up!
Would need to ask Ventus for permission before impregnating her new personal toy.
If Dasyra became a vamp, I'd have her be too busy thinking about sucking to really notice OPness.
Grab bag powers sound fun. Randomize it up!
Would need to ask Ventus for permission before impregnating her new personal toy.
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Heh, sucking. *chuckles*
But yeah, with all this talk Ventus might be jealous of anyone using her elf-toy overly.
Heh, sucking. *chuckles*
But yeah, with all this talk Ventus might be jealous of anyone using her elf-toy overly.
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Well not random powers in the sense of vampire comes with random abilities, but random in that it just grabbed abilities from 12 distinct myths of vampires and slapped them toghether willy nilly. And it's kind of an overpowered mess because of it.
And yeah Vel sorta figured on the possessiveness. See how it goes.
Well not random powers in the sense of vampire comes with random abilities, but random in that it just grabbed abilities from 12 distinct myths of vampires and slapped them toghether willy nilly. And it's kind of an overpowered mess because of it.
And yeah Vel sorta figured on the possessiveness. See how it goes.
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Alrighty then, I guess Ash will just use Restoration and see if that works. If not, I hope it goes away on it's own, otherwise I have a permanent -4 to all mental stats. Which... is honestly crippling.
Alrighty then, I guess Ash will just use Restoration and see if that works. If not, I hope it goes away on it's own, otherwise I have a permanent -4 to all mental stats. Which... is honestly crippling.
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Penalties are temporary and cannot drop a stat below 1.
Damage can drop a score to 0 with various effects. It heals at a rate of 1 from each score after each 8 hour rest. Various modifiers and methods can increase this rate.
Drain is permanent until removed by magic such as Restoration, Greater Restoration, Heal or other means.
Penalties are temporary and cannot drop a stat below 1.
Damage can drop a score to 0 with various effects. It heals at a rate of 1 from each score after each 8 hour rest. Various modifiers and methods can increase this rate.
Drain is permanent until removed by magic such as Restoration, Greater Restoration, Heal or other means.
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Okay, yeah. That's a lot less complicated than I thought it'd be. Thank you. However,
"-4 to all mental stats"
With this being the only thing i'm going off of, I don't really know what to do other than just wait...
Okay, yeah. That's a lot less complicated than I thought it'd be. Thank you. However,
"-4 to all mental stats"
With this being the only thing i'm going off of, I don't really know what to do other than just wait...
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Alright fine, you see, Dabomb, not doing this to annoy you , some players like the mystery.. Zilrax approach would work the best, but heres what happened.. which,.. I kinda think was obvious, but anyway.
Asheroth has been captured and tortured by drow, in an attempt to brainwash her into a slave, while she was very resistant at first, that caused some damage from the capture, and some damage to her mental scores from.. well the brainwashing attempt. Simplest way to quickly insert you into the campaign.
You can't use spellcraft at all because no one is casting things, you could figure out you are wearing an enchanted slave collar with a high knowledge:Arcana and you can restore yourself with a lesser restoration, though you'd propably need at least 3 castings, so you need to prioritize. Just take a peek at how Corruptive spirit is dealing with a similiar situation.. waking up int drained and trappedish.
This campaign is concepted around the idea of having stronger characters, but throwing them into a situation where they have to struggle.. I pick stronger characters because.. well, for one, stronger slaves ar kinkier, for two, it gives you more options to deal with more dangerous challenges.. plus, I can use a larger scope, for example mindflayers aren't really ment for players under.. coincidentially the level you started at. Same for a lvl 5 blackguard with the deathknight template, .. and look at the CR of the average succubus, such a strange coincidence, its almost as if I had planned for alternative foe options. *chuckles*
Anywhooo if you aren't sure on things, perhaps, sometimes thats because your character isn't ment to know for sure either, to create intrigue and stuff
Alright fine, you see, Dabomb, not doing this to annoy you , some players like the mystery.. Zilrax approach would work the best, but heres what happened.. which,.. I kinda think was obvious, but anyway.
Asheroth has been captured and tortured by drow, in an attempt to brainwash her into a slave, while she was very resistant at first, that caused some damage from the capture, and some damage to her mental scores from.. well the brainwashing attempt. Simplest way to quickly insert you into the campaign.
You can't use spellcraft at all because no one is casting things, you could figure out you are wearing an enchanted slave collar with a high knowledge:Arcana and you can restore yourself with a lesser restoration, though you'd propably need at least 3 castings, so you need to prioritize. Just take a peek at how Corruptive spirit is dealing with a similiar situation.. waking up int drained and trappedish.
This campaign is concepted around the idea of having stronger characters, but throwing them into a situation where they have to struggle.. I pick stronger characters because.. well, for one, stronger slaves ar kinkier, for two, it gives you more options to deal with more dangerous challenges.. plus, I can use a larger scope, for example mindflayers aren't really ment for players under.. coincidentially the level you started at. Same for a lvl 5 blackguard with the deathknight template, .. and look at the CR of the average succubus, such a strange coincidence, its almost as if I had planned for alternative foe options. *chuckles*
Anywhooo if you aren't sure on things, perhaps, sometimes thats because your character isn't ment to know for sure either, to create intrigue and stuff
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Don;t make succubi angry. It says cr 7 but it's not very accurate because they're one of those enemies with above average dcs and you need very specific spells to accomplish defeating. At will Ethereal Jaunt means if you can;t go ethereal too, she can stalk you forever and make you miserable.
And I can;t cast that so for the love of your paladin holiness DON'T MAKE XIRCE ANGRY. Or do. I mean it's not Kaila's problem
Don;t make succubi angry. It says cr 7 but it's not very accurate because they're one of those enemies with above average dcs and you need very specific spells to accomplish defeating. At will Ethereal Jaunt means if you can;t go ethereal too, she can stalk you forever and make you miserable.
And I can;t cast that so for the love of your paladin holiness DON'T MAKE XIRCE ANGRY. Or do. I mean it's not Kaila's problem
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CRs are nonsense anyway, mainly because they are geared for a specific set up, in for example, a social setting you can like.. double a succubus CR.
Don;t make succubi angry. It says cr 7 but it's not very accurate because they're one of those enemies with above average dcs and you need very specific spells to accomplish defeating. At will Ethereal Jaunt means if you can;t go ethereal too, she can stalk you forever and make you miserable.
And I can;t cast that so for the love of your paladin holiness DON'T MAKE XIRCE ANGRY. Or do. I mean it's not Kaila's problem
CRs are nonsense anyway, mainly because they are geared for a specific set up, in for example, a social setting you can like.. double a succubus CR.
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Cr is more effective than you'd might expect, there's just some outliers. And social situations aren't really what CR is engineered for so... Yeah they would be useless for that. Be like using a hammer to cut wood.
It's best for balancing encounters to a certain degree. Like you need a cr 8 encounter. It;s worth x amount of xp. So you can apply monsters and traps to the encounter for an xp total equal to that cr.
Now mind you party make up can make some encounters easier or harder, as can build and system mastery and several other factors. Previous example of earth elemental jumps to mind.
But it tends to be reasonably reliable for what an average and generally well built party of 4 people can handle.
Though templates are really REALLY bad for warping that. Most templates are not accurate or in some case horribly warping. Skeletal Champion is notoriously broken in it;s cr work. It works fine for basic humanoids. But apply it to something like say, an Erinyes and you get a cr 3 with dr/10 and can spam 5d8 damage spells from flight forever. It actively makes powerful monsters cr lower while making them stronger. Terrible design.
Advanced is another bad one. It's supposed to boost cr by 1. At low levels it'll crush pcs very easily. At high levels it makes little to no diffrence cus all it provides is some numbers, not capabilities.
But yeah, there's no real rating for chatting up demons. Generally I work with the system of if you can work out a resolution without conflict that's basically defeating them.
Cr is more effective than you'd might expect, there's just some outliers. And social situations aren't really what CR is engineered for so... Yeah they would be useless for that. Be like using a hammer to cut wood.
It's best for balancing encounters to a certain degree. Like you need a cr 8 encounter. It;s worth x amount of xp. So you can apply monsters and traps to the encounter for an xp total equal to that cr.
Now mind you party make up can make some encounters easier or harder, as can build and system mastery and several other factors. Previous example of earth elemental jumps to mind.
But it tends to be reasonably reliable for what an average and generally well built party of 4 people can handle.
Though templates are really REALLY bad for warping that. Most templates are not accurate or in some case horribly warping. Skeletal Champion is notoriously broken in it;s cr work. It works fine for basic humanoids. But apply it to something like say, an Erinyes and you get a cr 3 with dr/10 and can spam 5d8 damage spells from flight forever. It actively makes powerful monsters cr lower while making them stronger. Terrible design.
Advanced is another bad one. It's supposed to boost cr by 1. At low levels it'll crush pcs very easily. At high levels it makes little to no diffrence cus all it provides is some numbers, not capabilities.
But yeah, there's no real rating for chatting up demons. Generally I work with the system of if you can work out a resolution without conflict that's basically defeating them.
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My apologies, I wasn't trying to be a pain, I was just genuinely confused on what was happening.
So, to avoid metagaming, I'll roll an Arcana check. Oh, and i'll also cast dtect magic, since I have that.
Edit: Oh yeah, what the hell happened to my familiar? Do you want me to handle that, or do you have something in mind?
My apologies, I wasn't trying to be a pain, I was just genuinely confused on what was happening.
So, to avoid metagaming, I'll roll an Arcana check. Oh, and i'll also cast dtect magic, since I have that.
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24Edit: Oh yeah, what the hell happened to my familiar? Do you want me to handle that, or do you have something in mind?
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