RPG RPG Maker [うさぎめしや / usabox] MaiDenSnow Eve / MaiDenSnow Eve ～さる前夜祭～ (RE115762, RJ115762)

[tidelwave21]

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can someone please upload a decrypted version of Game.rgss3a I can't seem to get the decrypter to work. I go to extract the decrypter program out of the rar file and then winrar says there is no file in there even though it shows that there is.

 

[Harleyquin13]

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Wanted: Crafting recipe to obtain 4-socket rapier that involves a 3 red-socket rapier found in the field. I'm not willing to sacrifice my 3-slot falcon stake in exchange for a 4-slot rapier.

Level 57 in the waterway and still no 4-slot rapier or limbfire
On the plus side, I found enough madness essences this time round to fill up the hitherto empty slots in my goth suit and sailor suit.

 

[Kohakuren]

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Assuming you have the latest version with 2 manual patches in patch folder.
1) Did you have futanari?
2) Did you kill belle afterwards or let her leave satisfied?

Although neko ears/usagi ears are tied to lycan & doctor curing you, the neko tail is tied to impregnating belle instead.
You need both despite neko tail being "not implemented" (it actually is implemented)

orz.. I got 19/nov/13 of English site. have never visit official site after all, so no manual patches were applied. My pc got futanari. Belle bestow it out just before she leaves so I didn't have a chance. From my understanding, She must be impregnated and gains lycanthrope to unlock ears and tails? So just lycanthrope is no good then.

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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Just lycanthrope is no good apparently, (that's for getting the animal essence)
Impreg is 100% though, just have to cum inside of her and your good to go.

@Harley: 4-socket rapier that involves a 3 red-socket rapier

You CANNOT get a clean slot rapier from a 4-red socket rapier. But instead, you can go for an over-slotted rapier.

Say if you have a Mithirl (or Lv2 Para, Lv3 Dex, etc) essence that are unattainable using normal essence is a 1R/0F/1T rapier (1 red, 0 free, 1 socket in total) that you brought from the drawf.
1) Mithirl 1R/0F/1T rapier + 1R+/1F/2T rapier = Mithirl 1R/1F/2T
2) Mithirl 1R/1F/2T rapier + 2R+/1F/3T rapier = Mithirl 1R/2F/3T
3) Mithirl 1R/2F/3T rapier + 3R+/1F/4T rapier (Your current rapier) = Mithirl 1R/3F/4T Over-slotted rapier

Depending on how many free slots you have, you can start at any of the 3 steps.

Note: The above formula works for any item.
Note 2: Any red slots that are available, must be what you want, since they cannot be removed.
Note 3: Any of the higher total slots rapiers can be wasted to do a step above it. For example, you can use a 2R/1F/3T to slot expand a 1R/0F/1T, but the result is still 1R/1F/2T
Note 4: It is easier to craft a over-slotted equipment than max-slotted equipment if you know how. (The how is in the above recipe)

 

[Kohakuren]

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Just lycanthrope is no good apparently, (that's for getting the animal essence)
Impreg is 100% though, just have to cum inside of her and your good to go.

Okay, i have download the manual patches. Will now go find her, cum inside, then let her go XD. Good grief I haven't done any changing to futanari and lycanthrope save.

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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Rants:

Spoiler

Will now go find her, cum inside, then let her go

You know, that totally sounds like the content of a doujin. But here, we are doing it for the sake of a cosmetic option. The process is just something to complete and get out of the way. What happened to the goal of h-games, searching for H-scene for the sake of a H-scene?

*mob drops full-slotted item*

Screw the H-scenes, give me my full-slotted gothic brassier already!

Anyways, the veteran players of this game are more interested rare drops than the h-scenes. It shows exactly how this game fails to be "H" (but PC's really cute) and succeeds as a grinder. I tend to have fun with the later, but I still laugh at the fact that many others are in the same situation.
This game is all about customization + random generated dungeon + deep crafting system + rare & unique drops + the very cute PC + the frustrating fact of what you want never drops.

 

[Harleyquin13]

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Just lycanthrope is no good apparently, (that's for getting the animal essence)
Impreg is 100% though, just have to cum inside of her and your good to go.


You CANNOT get a clean slot rapier from a 4-red socket rapier. But instead, you can go for an over-slotted rapier.

Say if you have a Mithirl (or Lv2 Para, Lv3 Dex, etc) essence that are unattainable using normal essence is a 1R/0F/1T rapier (1 red, 0 free, 1 socket in total) that you brought from the drawf.
1) Mithirl 1R/0F/1T rapier + 1R+/1F/2T rapier = Mithirl 1R/1F/2T
2) Mithirl 1R/1F/2T rapier + 2R+/1F/3T rapier = Mithirl 1R/2F/3T
3) Mithirl 1R/2F/3T rapier + 3R+/1F/4T rapier (Your current rapier) = Mithirl 1R/3F/4T Over-slotted rapier

Depending on how many free slots you have, you can start at any of the 3 steps.

Note: The above formula works for any item.
Note 2: Any red slots that are available, must be what you want, since they cannot be removed.
Note 3: Any of the higher total slots rapiers can be wasted to do a step above it. For example, you can use a 2R/1F/3T to slot expand a 1R/0F/1T, but the result is still 1R/1F/2T
Note 4: It is easier to craft a over-slotted equipment than max-slotted equipment if you know how. (The how is in the above recipe)

I'll need to look harder, the fixed red-slot in the resulting 4-slot rapier for me has to be one of stun/paralyze/darkness/elemental damage or I won't accept it.

4-slot rapiers and limbfires exist since others here have found them. I'm just really really really unlucky!!!!

 

[Kohakuren]

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Rants:
You know,

My words causes misunderstanding here. I'm no good English speaker. Well, I got it at last. Thank a lot. No sign of full slots clothes all the way to 25th floor that's a let down. Do each clothes have specific location to be found?

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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Well, I got it at last. Thank a lot.

No problem. In terms of clothing, no specific location, they are found any where. It's just my imagination says that they usually drop in the dungeon near where you got them from. (Like forest has a higher chance for sailor fuku and rabbit uniform)

stun/paralyze/darkness/elemental

Getting a lv1 of them is easy. Getting lv2 is much harder. But just camp drawf, he will give it to you sooner or later (or get it through a lucky drop)
You are only dealing with socket expands, so its straight forward. If you include advanced crafting so you can get a specific weapon that's much harder.

 

[Harleyquin13]

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I've done all the steps for getting the animal essence.

As the screenshots show, quite a heavy price to pay for the ability to unlock rabbit ears, a few additional appearance features and the all-important stray cat.

Futanari is lethal when taking on a monster lair. Because there's a 25% chance for the ailment to deal damage, the PC will climax for absolutely no reason whatsoever regardless of how far her pink bar has progressed.

Be prepared with extra divine judgment/sleep scrolls when making your way to the water wheel for treatment.

I can't remember if the first mental state (powerless bitch) can be treated at the church. If it can be treated, I'll need some time before morale recovers sufficiently.

According to the readme, each type of treatment is supposed to unlock a memory. However these do not seem to be activated yet as of current version.

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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Aha! That's the first time I see the rabbit version of it. I always get the cat version of it from belle.

The mental state can be recovered by gaining more morale and is the easiest one to fix. Morale can be easily gained from killing monsters. Fixing bad habits require you to have positive morale, or else its just going to make your bad habits worse.

OTOH, due to strict play, after I get the animal essence I have to go to PC's room and restart the game. And I might need a second animal's essence so that I can slot-expand my gothic brassier. (If I ever found a 3 essence gothic brassier that is)

 

[Harleyquin13]

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Aha! That's the first time I see the rabbit version of it. I always get the cat version of it from belle.

The mental state can be recovered by gaining more morale and is the easiest one to fix. Morale can be easily gained from killing monsters. Fixing bad habits require you to have positive morale, or else its just going to make your bad habits worse.

OTOH, due to strict play, after I get the animal essence I have to go to PC's room and restart the game. And I might need a second animal's essence so that I can slot-expand my gothic brassier. (If I ever found a 3 essence gothic brassier that is)

I think I got the rabbit version because my preferred underwear is the bunny suit. You normally use slit undies so that's probably why there's a difference in which animal form you get.

You mentioned the differing stages of lycanthropy and rabbit form, the first rabbit form debuff is massively painful as it is especially since I was also suffering from futanari at the time. Just how bad is the 2nd stage of Belle's animal debuff?

Shortly after I asked my question on the mental state, I got my answer. I actually regressed to stage 2 but killed a few monsters and brought it back up again. It's going to be a long road to kill monsters in the hopes of finding that clean 4-slot limbfire and rapier.

As for stray cat, I'm sure you know what it looks like but the stats are a significant upgrade from the goth suit. I'm very sure the hardest difficult levels have stand-alone level 3 versions of the stat boost essences so my essence configuration is probably temporary.

 

[Monceber]

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Just how bad is the 2nd stage of Belle's animal debuff?

Very painful, I'd say. Not only debuff from it reaches around -100% total (whooping -40% on endurance), but it also adds -100% weakness to Pregnancy (which actually helped a lot when I was trying to get red star drops from pregnancy) and Passion beat, I think. But, duh, if only second phase's duration was shorter (like, 2/3 of current) or first phase was longer, I'd never cure lycanthropy. It got +20% Agi, and for my build it's very noticable increase (got about 100+ Agi with it).

over-slotted equipment

A lil' bit confused by this wording, what do you mean by it? Like item with red essence which slots were expanded via alchemy?

Futanari is lethal when taking on a monster lair.

Yep, that's pretty much common trait for futa/oversensitive. And not only ailments, but normal attacks on PC, as well as her ranged attacks (throwing included). One time I lost at the very end of clearing Monster lair because some Vine decided to deal 400+ sexual damage with a single attack.

Btw, about enhancement scroll. Most likely you know this already, but it seems like at >+10 it's not actually a random chance, but a set rule. I've noticed, that using these scrolls decrease the cost of upgrading at dwarf, so my guess is that they just add some set amount of exp to gear. At low enhancement levels (1-9) this amount is enough to level stuff, but at higher levels you need a several of these scrolls to make an upgrade.

 

[Harleyquin13]

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A few questions for those who have successfully restarted at least once:

1. In most playthroughs, it's a straight choice between the Crossfire P8 and the Burial Blade. No player can get both in one run correct?
2. If Futanari is enabled, is it still possible for the PC to get stuck with the super-sensitive ailment and futanari together? If the former is contracted, can the doctor at the water wheel do something about it?
3. If a restart is done clearing the PC's sexual record, do previous weaknesses (for example extra damage from breast fondling) persist in the new run or are they removed entirely?
4. When restarting, is it just the equipment that's in the storage chest that carries over or is the PC's inventory also preserved for the new run?
5. I'm still not sure what "red-star" essences refer to, is it a new addition to the hell mode difficulty?
6. What's the repair costs like in hell mode? Is it a flat rate regardless of the extent of equipment degradation or does it scale according to how much repair is required?

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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I'm very sure the hardest difficult levels have stand-alone level 3 versions of the stat boost essences so my essence configuration is probably temporary.

Don't count on it, I heard it drops only pregnancy? or my guess at monster floor where you have colored variation mobs.

A lil' bit confused by this wording, what do you mean by it? Like item with red essence which slots were expanded via alchemy?

No. Let's say for example, you have a 4 slotted sailor fuku with 2 red essences. Just so happens the red essence is Lv3 HP and Lv3 Agi. This has the same effect as your current sailor fuku.

However, now you have 2 slots free. You can add another 2 essence, say Lv2 Dex and Lv1 Dex. Resulting in another passive that is normally impossible. These 2 slots are over-slots, and the sailor fuku is considered an Overslotted Sailor fuku (Overslot II actually)

1. In most playthroughs, it's a straight choice between the Crossfire P8 and the Burial Blade. No player can get both in one run correct?
Correct
2. If Futanari is enabled, is it still possible for the PC to get stuck with the super-sensitive ailment and futanari together? If the former is contracted, can the doctor at the water wheel do something about it?
Removing futanari should take care of super-sensitive.
3. If a restart is done clearing the PC's sexual record, do previous weaknesses (for example extra damage from breast fondling) persist in the new run or are they removed entirely?
They are removed entirely. Considered as part of the PC's history. (You regain them if you load your previous history)
4. When restarting, is it just the equipment that's in the storage chest that carries over or is the PC's inventory also preserved for the new run?
Everything is perserved except levels.
5. I'm still not sure what "red-star" essences refer to, is it a new addition to the hell mode difficulty?
We have no idea when and where it drops, but we have guesses. (Refer to above post)
6. What's the repair costs like in hell mode? Is it a flat rate regardless of the extent of equipment degradation or does it scale according to how much repair is required?
My previous statement was incorrect, apparently repair cost is going to be greatly increased.

Most likely you know this already, but it seems like at >+10 it's not actually a random chance, but a set rule. I've noticed, that using these scrolls decrease the cost of upgrading at dwarf, so my guess is that they just add some set amount of exp to gear. At low enhancement levels (1-9) this amount is enough to level stuff, but at higher levels you need a several of these scrolls to make an upgrade.

Its definitely not adding exp to gear. Reason I know this is because I upgraded my crossfire P8 from +10 to +14 using just scrolls and nothing else. I stored it in the trunk and try to upgrade it each time after a dungeon run. Each time it fails I reload the game and go into another dungeon run. This succeeds at times and failed at other times, all without change of weapon exp. Hence upgrading itself it random. The RNG is reset each time you exit an dungeon
Its nice to know a scroll decrease upgrading cost though.
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Mission Accomplished: Beat every single mob in game (including bosses) enough times to have the stuffings (essence) beaten out of them.
Reward: A complete essence drop list from every mob in game

 

[Harleyquin13]

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Don't count on it, I heard it drops only pregnancy? or my guess at monster floor where you have colored variation mobs.


No. Let's say for example, you have a 4 slotted sailor fuku with 2 red essences. Just so happens the red essence is Lv3 HP and Lv3 Agi. This has the same effect as your current sailor fuku.

However, now you have 2 slots free. You can add another 2 essence, say Lv2 Dex and Lv1 Dex. Resulting in another passive that is normally impossible. These 2 slots are over-slots, and the sailor fuku is considered an Overslotted Sailor fuku (Overslot II actually)


Its definitely not adding exp to gear. Reason I know this is because I upgraded my crossfire P8 from +10 to +14 using just scrolls and nothing else. I stored it in the trunk and try to upgrade it each time after a dungeon run. Each time it fails I reload the game and go into another dungeon run. This succeeds at times and failed at other times, all without change of weapon exp. Hence upgrading itself it random. The RNG is reset each time you exit an dungeon
Its nice to know a scroll decrease upgrading cost though.
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Mission Accomplished: Beat every single mob in game (including bosses) enough times to have the stuffings (essence) beaten out of them.
Reward: A complete essence drop list from every mob in game

No reason for stronger essences being a pregnancy exclusive, Monciber who's likely in hell difficulty has a different drop list from both of us for the Arachne. I'm guessing the difficulty level also unlocks what type of essence is available.

"Overslot" equipment is a really clunky way of naming a piece of equipment that is far stronger than most equipment with equivalent number of maximum slots because of pre-existing rare essences. The drawback of course is the fixed nature of the level3 stat essences. In regular RPG terms, I'd think of these special equipment with red level3 essences as "unique items".

Coloured variation mobs?! I can only imagine what that must be. My personal record on dungeon crawls is just 56 in the waterway and that's through exploration with the aim of finding the correct door and extending my stay for as long as my equipment allows.

Agreed on the "scroll not adding to XP to gear" proposition. I just finished a run where 2 armour scrolls upgraded my +14 cardinal robe to a +16 on consecutive occasions. The observation regarding upgrade costs is nice if it's true, but I find that the RNG element for scroll upgrades past level +10 just about levels out the amount of etc. required at the blacksmith.

Congratulations on the essence list, but how do you keep track of your progress? Does it have something to do with the stars that appear after each essence description in the bestiary?

 

[Harleyquin13]

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I think I've figured out what everyone is referring to when talking about "red-star essences". When analysing essence drop probabilities in the bestiary, some entries show up with stars to their right. Going by my own experience, I can safely conclude the following:

No star: Monster will drop this essence often, even on easy difficulty.
Colourless star: Monster probably drops this essence from normal difficulty onwards.
Yellow star: Uncommon/rare essence drop (example would be darkness 2 from the Iron Jack, I've killed hundreds of these now with redemption on and have yet to see one)
White star: I'm guessing something similar to the Yellow star essences in terms of rarity and difficulty required.
Red star: This is the one the veteran players here are puzzling over. My guess is that these will only be made available in 大魔境 mode, possibly as a combination with pregnancy. To date, I've seen essences like spirit3 etc. appear as fixed, red essences in equipment and weapons. To make up for the increased difficulty in hell mode, the developer decided to open up all possibilities to give players a fighting chance.

I've seen one essence in the bestiary which I've never even seen before. Check the corruption's entry (#55) and the 死1 essence named "Bone". Another feature is that previously boss-exclusive level3 elemental essences are highlighted with a red-star for specific non-boss enemies (for example fire3 for the red ram which as of normal difficulty current version is only available from the minotaur boss).

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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No reason for stronger essences being a pregnancy exclusive, Monciber who's likely in hell difficulty has a different drop list from both of us for the Arachne.

Same list as mine. It happens after you upgrade to the November version. Except his playing in english.

The drawback of course is the fixed nature of the level3 stat essences. In regular RPG terms, I'd think of these special equipment with red level3 essences as "unique items".

Overslot =/= Unique, something with red essence is unique, overslot is not about red essence. Its about having extra slots available for use due to slotted red essence.

Yellow star, White star.

Gold star and silver star. With Gold star being the rarer. You can see in item compendium that gold star is higher ranked than silver star. Stars has nothing to do with difficulty level. At least the bestiary doesn't change when you switch difficulty level.
I haven't seen a single red star essence drop. After averaging 150 kills on every mob except boss and rare mobs (like initiate, red sheep, etc) In fact, I killed 583 spider summons and 400 plant summons without ever seeing a red star essence drop.

 

[Harleyquin13]

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Same list as mine. It happens after you upgrade to the November version. Except his playing in english.

Overslot =/= Unique, something with red essence is unique, overslot is not about red essence. Its about having extra slots available for use due to slotted red essence.


Gold star and silver star. With Gold star being the rarer. You can see in item compendium that gold star is higher ranked than silver star. Stars has nothing to do with difficulty level. At least the bestiary doesn't change when you switch difficulty level.
I haven't seen a single red star essence drop. After averaging 150 kills on every mob except boss and rare mobs (like initiate, red sheep, etc) In fact, I killed 583 spider summons and 400 plant summons without ever seeing a red star essence drop.

I still refer them to uniques, since the only difference is a more powerful combination of essences due to the strength of the pre-installed red essence. Regardless, the ideal types are just like buying the lottery.

Both of us have yet to seriously start on hell mode yet (your restart was back on normal was it not?) so I'm quite sure red star drops are exclusive to hell mode. It's true the bestiary does not change, but the level resetting and increased repair costs means high-level essences are the only way players have for readdressing the balance. The funny thing is there are some silver star essences which I've yet to see drop on my save whereas at least 2-3 gold star equivalents have been picked up.

 

[Dragonpaladin]

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But the term unique has already been taken by Burial Blade and Crossfire P8

Both of us have yet to seriously start on hell mode yet (your restart was back on normal was it not?)

Yes I am still in normal mode, I need to get a second animal essence. On the other hand, the reason why I said that it won't be a drop from hell mode is because the author stated that you cannot get it as a regular drop. (Think wording was, you cannot get the essence normally) (Refer to post by Monceber)

high-level essences are the only way players have for readdressing the balance.

Actually, the fact you can upgrade your items a lot easier in hell mode makes it worth it.

The funny thing is there are some silver star essences which I've yet to see drop on my save whereas at least 2-3 gold star equivalents have been picked up.

The other way around for me, silver I can get drop once per 10 essence drops. Gold? Once or twice per walk through. Think of gold as silver dropping from drawf and bandit. Its not happening.
One of the main reason I think gold star is rarer is because bosses only have silver star, but no gold star. It means that gold star's chance is low enough that it just isn't reasonable to farm. (And we know players farm bosses for elemental 3 drops, and succeeds most of the time. Though I still don't have thunder or earth 3 yet.)
The other main reason is because of the attached screenshot for two-handed sword. There's an obvious no star -> blank star -> silver star -> gold star type of hierarchy.