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Re: Magic Castle RePure Aria Paradise

After a long time being lurker. Now i can post in the forum:D.

Ok, so long story short, i'm now continuing anticor work with .exe file (very much appreciated his translation). The problem is i don't know any Japanese, and my English isn't good either:eek: . Kerriden's helping me to correct my errors and some hard stuffs, but it's seem he's quite busy and i think i shouldn't trouble him much because the event.dxa is not completed yet

Progress

Item:
Name + Description done

Princesses:
Name done
Description: it's hard to translate

Princesses' power/ability
Name + Description done

Familiar contract
Name + Description done

Location
Name done (most of them are abbreviations, a text file has been included to explain them)
Description: i think i'll pass this.

Working on
Princesses dialog when H encounter with familiars
Here is the links

Code:
dropbox.com/s/v52lfipuj6cdv5m/Repure.zip
Code:
mediafire.com/download/vu2t5xk189tvck2/Repure.zip

i'll try to update each week ;)
 
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Re: Magic Castle RePure Aria Paradise

After a long time being lurker. Now i can post in the forum:D.

Ok, so long story short, i'm now continuing anticor work with .exe file (very much appreciated his translation). The problem is i don't know any Japanese, and my English isn't good either:eek: . Kerriden's helping me to correct my errors and some hard stuffs, but it's seem he's quite busy and i think i shouldn't trouble him much because the event.dxa is not completed yet
Yanno, I don't trust your links.
 

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Re: Magic Castle RePure Aria Paradise

Yanno, I don't trust your links.
Why not?
I used the drop box one with no problems.

Also, does anyone know if there is a list of the different combinations of contracts/fusions?

For example, using 2 half-orc contracts gets you 50% chance of not taking damage instead of 25%, so a direct upgrade.
Using 2 Arachne contracts change the wall stick to something translated to spideweb with a untranstated status description, you still stick but I wonder if it does something else as well.
 

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Kerriden's helping me to correct my errors and some hard stuffs, but it's seem he's quite busy and i think i shouldn't trouble him much because the event.dxa is not completed yet
All right, here's a list of things you can equip in the familiar slots. No promises that all of these are actually in the game.

ウィルオーウィスプ ◆霊召喚 契約者の周りを飛び回り、火炎弾の援護攻撃を行う。攻撃時や被弾時に消耗。火炎吸収。物理攻撃すり抜け。霊魂を浄化する攻撃で完全に消滅する。
Will o' the wisp (Ghost Summon) Files around the summoner, shooting flaming bullets as covering fire. Consumed on every shot and when hit. Absorbs fire. Immune to physical attacks. Completely annihilated by soul purification attacks.

ホワイトウィスプ ◆霊召喚 契約者の周りを飛び回り、無属性弾の援護攻撃を行う。攻撃時や被弾時に消耗。電撃吸収。物理攻撃すり抜け。霊魂を浄化する攻撃で完全に消滅する。
White Wisp (Ghost Summon) Files around the summoner, shooting non-elemental bullets as covering fire. Consumed on every shot and when hit. Absorbs shock. Immune to physical attacks. Completely annihilated by soul purification attacks.

ゴースト ◆霊召喚 契約者の周りを飛び回り、攻撃時に無属性弾の援護攻撃を行う。物理攻撃すり抜け。霊魂を浄化する攻撃で完全に消滅する。
Ghost (Ghost Summon) Files around the summoner, shooting non-elemental bullets as covering fire when you attack. Immune to physical attacks. Completely annihilated by soul purification attacks.

エレメンタル ◆召喚 契約者の周りを飛び回り、敵の『小弾』を吸収する。無敵だが一定時間で召喚不能状態になる。ただし敵弾吸収で稼働時間が回復する。
Elemental (Summon) Files around the summoner, absorbing small bullets from enemies. Although invincible, becomes unable to be summoned after a fixed period of time. However, operating time recovers by absorbing enemy bullets.

紅茶妖精 ◆召喚 契約者の周りを飛び回り、まれにMPを回復してくれる。被弾時に消耗。
Tea Fairy (Summon) Files around the summoner, occasionally recovering MP. Consumed when hit.

ノーム ◆召喚 コインを自動的に回収してくれる。被弾時に消耗。『矢』は効かない。
Gnome (Summon) Automatically collects coins. Consumed when hit. Immune to arrows.

ピクシー ◆召喚 契約者の周りを飛び回る。約1秒毎に自分も含めた出撃中の使い魔2体のHPを1回復させる。被弾時に消耗。
Pixie (Summon) Files around the summoner. Recovers 1 HP for itself and your second familar approximately once per second. Consumed when hit.

ダークピクシー ◆召喚 契約者の周りを飛び回る。約0.5秒毎に自分も含めた出撃中の使い魔2体のHPを1回復させる。被弾時に消耗。
Dark Pixie (Summon) Files around the summoner. Recovers 1 HP for itself and your second familar approximately twice per second. Consumed when hit.

セラプー ◆召喚 矢による攻撃を時々行う。また召喚者がダメージを受けると必ず反撃する。被弾時のみに消耗するが、氷結、電撃以外は効かない。
Seraph (Summon) Sometimes attacks with arrows. Will counterattack when summoner takes damage. Is only consumed by being shot. Immune to everything but freezing and shock.

スライム ◆子供 飛び跳ねながら移動し、虫系の敵を自動的に捕食する。被弾時に消耗。
Slime (Child) Moves by bouncing up and down. Automatically preys on enemies of the insect family. Consumed when hit.

ゴールデンスライム ◆子供 飛び跳ねながら移動し、虫系の敵を自動的に捕食する。被弾時に消耗。
Golden Slime (Child) Moves by bouncing up and down. Automatically preys on enemies of the insect family. Consumed when hit.

ウイッチドール ◆子供
Witch Doll (Child)

サキュバスたん ◆子供 サキュバスとの子供のような何か。勝手に戦ってくれる。一定のダメージを受けると召喚不能状態になる。
Succubus-tan (Child) Something like a child with a succubus. Attacks on her own. Becomes unable to be summoned after taking a fixed amount of damage.

パールたん ◆子供 パールさんとの子供。『小弾』や物理攻撃を防ぐが、魔法には弱い。被弾時に消耗。攻撃はしない。
Pearl-tan (Child) Pearl-san's child. Defends against small bullets and physical attacks, but weak to magic. Consumed when hit. Does not attack.

ドールたん ◆子供 ドールさんと一緒に作った小さな人形。召喚者の攻撃方法を真似る事ができる。被弾時のみに消耗。氷結、電撃、矢は効かない。
Doll-tan (Child) A small puppet created together with Doll-san. Can mimic the summoner's method of attack. Only consumed when shot. Immune to freezing, shock, and arrows.

マジカルブック ◆召喚 無属性攻撃を行う魔術道具。しゃがみ+攻撃動作で設置場所を変更できる。召喚や配置換えで消耗。攻撃を受けても消耗しないが、火炎属性の攻撃で完全に消滅する。
Magical Book (Summon) Sorcerous tool that uses non-elemental attacks. Use crouch + attack to change where it is set up. Consumed when summoned and moved. Not consumed by being hit, but will be completely annihilated by fire attribute attacks.

ウサ子の守り ◆召喚 契約者の周りを飛び回り、敵の『小弾』を消去、まれに攻撃する。一定のダメージを受けると召喚不能状態になる。
Rabbit Child Protector (Summon) Files around the summoner, eliminating enemy's small bullets and occasionally attacking. Becomes unable to be summoned after taking a fixed amount of damage.

プリズムネイル ◆召喚 魔性形態専用。紋様状の使い魔を召喚、触れた敵をロックオンする。ロックオン時は最大8本のホーミングレーザー攻撃を行う。
Prism Nail (Summon) Exclusive to devilish form. Locks on to an enemy you touched while summoned and shoots up to 8 homing lasers.

ダンタリオンビット ◆召喚 契約者の周りを飛び回り、攻撃を行う人工精霊。一定のダメージを受けると、召喚不能状態になる。
Dantallion Bit (Summon) An artificial spirit that files around the summoner and attacks. Becomes unable to be summoned after taking a fixed amount of damage.

アルラウネ ◆契約 混乱を無効化する。
Alarune (Contract) Nullifies confusion.

ハイアルラウネ ◆契約 花粉によるダメージと誘惑効果を無効化する。
High Alarune (Contract) Nullifies temptation and damage from pollen.

ハーフオーク ◆契約 物理タイプの体当たりダメージを25%の確立で無効化する。
Half Orc (Contract) Nullifies physical body blow damage 25% of the time.

ハーフオーク・ハイ ◆契約 物理タイプの体当たりダメージを50%の確立で無効化する。
Half Orc High (Contract) Nullifies physical body blow damage 50% of the time.

アルケニー ◆契約 壁ジャンプ時に貼り付き効果を付与する。
Arachne (Contract) Allows you to stick to walls when wall jumping.

パチパチ ◆契約 しゃがみ状態の時に体当たり攻撃を無効化する『ガード』スキルを習得。床ブロックに乗りやすくなる『端っこ立ち』を習得。
Ogre? (Contract) Acquire guard skill that nullifies physical body blow attacks while crouched. Acquire 'edge standing' that makes getting on to floor blocks easy.

ラミア ◆契約 魔性形態の後方攻撃の威力を上昇させる。
Lamia (Contract) Raises power of rear attacks in devilish form.

ハーピー ◆契約 スキル『むっちりボディ』の効果を無効化する。落下によるミス判定を無効化。純愛形態で『ウインドセイバー』を習得。
Harpy (Contract) Nullifies effects of 'chubby body' skill. Nullifies "miss judgement" due to falling. Acquire wind saber in pure love form.

フレイムハーピー ◆契約 スキル『むっちりボディ』の効果を無効化する。落下によるミス判定を無効化。スキル『火炎耐性』習得。
Flame Harpy (Contract) Nullifies effects of 'chubby body' skill. Nullifies "miss judgement" due to falling. Acquire flame resistance skill.

巨乳エルフ ◆契約 物理タイプの体当たりダメージを 50%の確立で無効化する。無垢形態に装備すると…
Giant Breasted Elf (Contract) Nullifies physical body blow damage 50% of the time. If equipped while in pure form...

レッドウィッチ ◆契約 しゃがみ時に25%の確立で敵の『小弾』を無効化する。男性形態で装備時は100%無効化できる。
Red Witch (Contract) Nullifies small bullets while crouching 25% of the time or 100% while in male form.

ソードファイター ◆契約 しゃがみ状態の時に物理攻撃を無効化する『ソードガード』スキルを習得。回復スキルを変化させる。
Sword Woman (Contract) Acquire sword guard skill that nullifies physical attacks while crouching. Changes recovery skill.

サキュバス ◆契約 スキル『グレイズシフト』付加。男の子形態装備時は『精力回復』を習得。
Succubus (Contract) Adds skill Glaze Shift (?). Acquire energy recovery when equipped in male form.

マーメイド ◆契約 水中で小弾を自動回避できる。『ウォーター・グレイズ』スキルを習得。『ブレス防御』スキルを習得。
Mermaid (Contract) Automatic evasion of small bullets underwater. Acquire water glaze skill. Acquire breath defense skill.

パールたん ◆契約 水中での空気残量の減少速度が3/4になる。飛び道具を無効化する『アローガード』スキルを習得。
Pearl-tan (Contract) Lowers underwater breathing rate to 3/4ths. Acquire arrow guard skill that nullifies projectiles.

パールさん ◆契約 水中での空気残量が減少速度が半分になる。スキル『むっちりボディ』と同効果付加。物理攻撃を無効化する『ソードガード』スキルを習得。
Pearl-san (Contract) Lowers underwater breathing rate to half. Adds same effect as chubby body skill. Acquire sword guard skill that nullifies physical attacks.

ドールさん ◆憑依 しゃがみ時に敵の『小弾』を80%の確立で無効化する。しゃがみ時に敵の大魔法のダメージを1に減らす。
Doll-san (Possession) Nullifies small bullets while crouching 80% of the time. Reduces damage from enemy big magic to 1 while crouching.

マカイゾー ◆憑依 突進系の攻撃が強化される。
Makaizo (Possession) Strengthens dash-type attacks.

スーパーパチパチ ◆契約。
Super Ogre (Contract)

雪女 ◆憑依 氷結属性の攻撃に強くなる。『氷結耐性』スキルを習得。無垢形態装備で『フリーズアロープラス』を習得。
Snow Woman (Possession) Strengthens freeze attribute attacks. Acquire freeze resistance skill. Acquire Freeze Arrow Plus in pure form.

スノーレギオン ◆憑依 氷結属性を完全に防ぐ。『氷結無効』スキルを習得。無垢形態装備で『フリーズアローエアロ』を習得。
Snow Legion (Possession) Completely prevents freeze status. Acquire freeze nullification skill. Acquire Freeze Arrow Aero in pure form.

フレッシュドリー ◆契約 雷属性の攻撃に強くなる。設置技の攻撃方法を変化させる。
Flesh Dolly (Contract) Strengthens thunder attribute attacks. Changes installation technique attack method (?).

ダークピクシー ◆契約 雷属性の攻撃に強くなる。風属性の攻撃を強化できる。
Dark Pixie (Contract) Strengthens thunder and wind attribute attacks.

スタースキュラ ◆電波 ダッシュ中に敵の『小弾』を回避する『ダッシュ・グレイズ』習得。水地形完全無視。
Star Scylla (Wave/Psychotic) Acquire Dash Glaze: evade enemy small bullets while dashing. Completely ignore water terrain.

シャドウシフター ◆憑依 回避スキル『シャドウ・シフト』を習得。さらにアライメント型のドアの開放値を半分にする。
Shadow Shifter (Possession) Acquire evasion skill Shadow Shift. Additionally, halves level required to open alignment doors.

テスタメント ◆魔法 純愛形態専用。通常攻撃が『ホーリーアロー』になる。回数制限があるが。魔力の泉で使用回数が回復する。
Testament (Magic) Exclusive to pure love form. Regular attacks become Holy Arrow. There is a limit on its use, but it can be recovered by using magical power springs.

フレアバースト ◆魔法 魔性形態専用。通常攻撃が『フレアバースト』になる。回数制限があるが。魔力の泉で使用回数が回復する。
Flare Burst (Magic) Exclusive to devilish form. Regular attacks become Flame Burst. There is a limit on its use, but it can be recovered by using magical power springs.

猪突猛進 ◆魔法 無垢形態専用。ダッシュ時に前方に風属性の壁を纏い体当たりする。回数制限があるが。時間経過で使用回数が回復する。
Recklessness (Magic) Exclusive to pure form. Clads you in a wall of wind when dashing forward. There is a limit on its use, but it can be recovered by using magical power springs.

アルマコットの想い ◆上位契約 『火炎無効』を習得。純愛形態と男の子形態ではカード技『サモン・アルマコット』を使用できる。
Alma Kotto's Love (High Ranking Contract) Acquire flame immunity. Can use card technique Summon Alma Kotto when in pure love or male form.

さくらの想い ◆上位契約 火炎弾で霊魂タイプの敵を倒せるようになる。攻撃時まれに『デスシックル』または『オーレリアン・デトネイション』が発動。
Sakura's Love (High Ranking Contract) Become able to kill spirit type enemies with fire bullets. Occasionally invokes Death Sickle or Aurelian Detonation when attacking.

ミルの想い ◆上位契約 ライフ残量が半分以下の時、攻撃がブラッドショットになる。ライフが0になったとき一度だけ身代わりになる。ライフ補充で再使用可能。
Milu's Love (High Ranking Contract) When below half life, attacks become Blood Shot. Sacrifices herself for you once when your life hits 0. Reusable after you refill your life.

マリエの守り ◆上位契約 水中で空気残量が減少速度が1/10になる。水属性攻撃無効。攻撃時にまれにアクアバーストが発動。
Marie's Protection (High Ranking Contract) Lowers underwater breathing rate to 1/10th. Nullifies water attribute attacks. Occasionally invokes Aqua Buster when attacking.

へルルの想い ◆上位契約 。 。
Queen of Hell's Love (High Ranking Contract)

ミライの想い ◆上位契約 。 。
Mirai's Love (High Ranking Contract)

淫魔の心 ◆特殊 女の子形態に装備すると…
Succubus's Heart (Special) If equipped while in female form...
needs a little editing but there you go for Familiar contract
 

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Re: Magic Castle RePure Aria Paradise

Why not?
I used the drop box one with no problems.

Also, does anyone know if there is a list of the different combinations of contracts/fusions?

For example, using 2 half-orc contracts gets you 50% chance of not taking damage instead of 25%, so a direct upgrade.
Using 2 Arachne contracts change the wall stick to something translated to spideweb with a untranstated status description, you still stick but I wonder if it does something else as well.
The dropbox link did, the mediafire link didn't work for me. I don't know about a list of contract-combinations, but yeah for example 2 Arachne gives something else too...
And this is good, because there are still unknown things :) (to keep us interested). Although I don't know when but there will DEFINITELY be new version(s), since:
1) The explaining picture of the joystick buttons setup is displaced.
2) The difficulty modes still can be switched anytime. (Okay, maybe this is intentional like in Nightmare Sphere)

On Hard mode
some mobs are stronger, like for example the "Flesh Dolly" - the blue dressed, jumping doll - who was a good reason enough for me to play through this mode :). It's really cool when she jumps. Some bosses are stronger too (though maybe it's just my imagination). Maybe it needs a bit harder.
 
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Yanno, I don't trust your links.
Yeah, if you paranoid :p, you could just use/buy some anti-virus programs.

Also, does anyone know if there is a list of the different combinations of contracts/fusions?
I don't see it in-game. Maybe we have to figure it out

For example, using 2 half-orc contracts gets you 50% chance of not taking damage instead of 25%, so a direct upgrade.
Using 2 Arachne contracts change the wall stick to something translated to spideweb with a untranstated status description, you still stick but I wonder if it does something else as well.
Here you go, i don't know how to translate this, too confusing
Spideweb (letter "r" is missing, i know :p)

一部のマップでの落下によるミス判定を無効化。壁際でジャンプキーを押すと壁を蹴って移動できる。ジャンプキーを押しっぱなしで壁に貼りつく事ができる。

Google: Disable miss determination due to falling in some maps. Can be moved to kick the wall and press the jump key in the wall. It is possible to stick to the wall hold down the jump key.

Power translator: I destroy a misjudgment by the fall in some maps. I reject an obstacle when I push the jump key by the wall and can move. I keep on pushing the jump key and can stick to the wall.

Atlas: Nullify the Miss judgment because of the fall by a part of map. It is possible to move by kicking the wall when the jump key is pressed on the wall side. The jump key can be clung to the wall by pressing.

Bing/MS: Examine whether the impact on some maps to disable. You can move the press jump at the wall and kicking the wall. You can jump to hold down the numbers on the wall.
"Nullify the misjudgment by the fall" or "Nullifies miss-judgement due to falling": this ability is in the contract with Harpy too, but i don't know how it work. I tried to jump down some map with no ground, and still die like normal :confused:, i thought it's some kind of auto-stick to walls when jumping down, but no luck
The rest: Wall jump, wall kick, and wall stick we all know

needs a little editing but there you go for Familiar contract
Ironically i found Dargoth's post after finished translation familiars contracts. :eek:

The dropbox link did, the mediafire link didn't work for me.
Thank you.
Could someone else confirm the MF link doesn't work? If yes, i'll move the file to other host
 

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Just remember clicking on a MF link here will lead to a blocked/deleted file page. Copy/paste the link to your address bar on the other hand will get you to the file.
 

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...Thank you.
Could someone else confirm the MF link doesn't work? If yes, i'll move the file to other host
Checked the MF link and it works fine for me.
Maybe it's a local issue?
Just remember clicking on a MF link here will lead to a blocked/deleted file page. Copy/paste the link to your address bar on the other hand will get you to the file.
Yes, I copied/pasted it, but it didn't work at that time (the page simply didn't load even after a couple of tries)... but now it works. So pardon me, please :)
 

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Sorry been away, been dealing with work issues.

I'll restart translation, although I can't say how quick it will be. Current plan is a release focused on clearing up the rest of the in game text along with a couple h scenes, and then a final release covering the rest of the h scenes.
 

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Full Save (According to site, v1.09, but I am using it with .23, so far no issues)

Direct Link: sagaoz.net/savedata/dojin/repurearia-109_rn(DOT)zip

Website:
sagaoz.net/savedata/dojin/d9ra(DOT)htm

Text to CTRL F: らくえんまじょうリピュアリア
楽園魔城リピュアリア
(ダウンロード版)

Replace (DOT) by a . Sorry I don't have 15 posts. :(

This has the infamous mirror hall cutscene unlocked. It is slightly more complete than the one posted by a user with an avatar with fire on it (don't worry bro, your save was awesome too).

I'd like to thank Kerriden for his awesome translation, as well as Anticor, who worked on one (the same?) as well. Also, to everyone else who helped. Good work!
 
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Sr guys, a bit busy and now i'm facing problem with the translations, i'll try to explain it shortly:

dc花粉をつけるだけなのに なぜ、最後までするのじゃ!!ee

dcあの花粉のせいなのか!? あのせいで○が変な気分に…ee
Note the "ee", the game will read these "ee" as the end of these sentenses.
Bing translate:

dcI just find pollen why, until the end of it!!ee

dcBecause of that pollen?! The mood is weird because of that…ee
The problem is: when translate to English, the game mess up the letter "e" as the end of the sentence. Then, in game, these 2 sentences will become

I just find poll

Because of that pollen?! Th
There is a way to counter this problem, using the letter "e" in Japanese font (hex byte 82 85) rather than the letter "e" in ASCII code page (hex byte 65). But unfortunately, the e (82 85) not always works, game still mess up if using too much e (82 85) or too much e (65); like in the 2nd sentence you still can see 3 letters "e". :confused:

I'm going to ask kerriden about this because i'm pretty sure he dealt with them a lot when translating the event.dxa file. Just hope this isn't a trial and error thing because i can't test each translated sentence in-game to make sure it's show properly:eek:

FYI, the sentences end with "ee" covered all the princesses' dialogs when H-encounter with familiars, and the dialogs of the Shop girl

Anyway, new version :).

Process:
My Room options: done
Food (name+descriptions):done
Food effect(Name+descriptions):done
Bars, Inns name: done
Familiars' sex attack:done
Code:
mediafire.com/?agyesi9d4shoc93
Code:
dropbox.com/s/v52lfipuj6cdv5m/Repure.zip
 

Anticor

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Re: Magic Castle RePure Aria Paradise

Hey there guys I'm finally back after a long crazy first half of 2014. I heard a lot of work has been done on this by Kerridon and that Artificial picked up on the UI translations, that's great! I'm excited see how much has actually been finished while I've been away. :)

Also I'm pretty sure Kerriden found a way to solve the E issues by using E instead of E? It's been a while I don't remember exactly how he fixed it. Would love to know how again, though.
 
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Re: Magic Castle RePure Aria Paradise

Welcome back!

Yeah, I replace some e's with the double width version... it's kind of messy, but I already told artificial how I do it. If my explanation was comprehensible, that's a different question.

My last release was some pages back if you wanted to check it out. The main story was pretty much all done, with work continuing on finishing up all the stuff that's left over.
 

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Hey there guys I'm finally back after a long crazy first half of 2014.
Thank god you're back. I'm really need someone to help me out :)

If my explanation was comprehensible, that's a different question.
Don't worry, your explanation is easy to understand :D

//Sorry guys, since Artificial Academy 2 released (AA2 for short; you guys can call me AA for short typing too ;)), i didn't do much :p. File in previous post is recent one. I'll continue with anticor but the harder work is on his side now :D
 

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Re: Magic Castle RePure Aria Paradise

This may sound newbish, but is there a way to extract or someway I can listen to the awesome BGM(s) of this game in mp3? Or someway to convert .dxa to mp3 or something similar?
 

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Okay. The most recent post on the creator's blog makes me consider getting the 3d game he's making.
 

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Re: Magic Castle RePure Aria Paradise

This may sound newbish, but is there a way to extract or someway I can listen to the awesome BGM(s) of this game in mp3? Or someway to convert .dxa to mp3 or something similar?
Yeah, you need a pgram called dxadecode
should be able to find it on the net somewhere
 
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