ACT Enty Active [Zell23] Forest of the Blue Skin

[RadeonX1950]

Re: Zell23 game "Forest of the Blue Skin"

I only know of three countries that block pornhub and two of them have the same name.

I'm assuming it's RoChina/PRoChina or RoKorea/DPRoKorea but I really, really want to guess US+British Virgin Islands

Keep guessing, comrades

 

[B00marrows]

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Interesting game mechanic discussion over the past few pages...
GoR - "failure of design" is a very harsh term that was used, but I do personally think it's not the ideal way to integrate H-content.ly)

Less of a failure of design, more of a failure in game design.
I hate GOR. I think of it as a failure of the adult gaming market.

The issue is right there in the name "GAME OVER rape".
Any gamer knows that "game over" is not a good thing, its not something a gamer wants or should strive for and thus it is a failure of game design to me.

FOBS to me, gets away with it. There may be a bit of porn for dying/failing. But the actual reward is for succeeding.

It may be harsh but im tough on what i love and that is video games and porn.

Repure Aria/Sequel - great

Loved and purchased the sequal, never tried the original. Might do at some point.

 

[Briger]

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Less of a failure of design, more of a failure in game design.
I hate GOR. I think of it as a failure of the adult gaming market.

The issue is right there in the name "GAME OVER rape".
Any gamer knows that "game over" is not a good thing, its not something a gamer wants or should strive for and thus it is a failure of game design to me.

arguable in the case of mgq this more often then not a punishment then a reward to a lot of people

 

[KiWolfGirl]

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I'm not sure what you mean, but I don't even use adblock there. However, I have to use a VPN cause pornhub is blocked in my country.

I mean someone recently got kicked off youtube and started uploading his videos there and I can't click one with out 3 other windows opening up with dicks all over the web page.

 

[redx]

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Less of a failure of design, more of a failure in game design.
I hate GOR. I think of it as a failure of the adult gaming market.

The issue is right there in the name "GAME OVER rape".
Any gamer knows that "game over" is not a good thing, its not something a gamer wants or should strive for and thus it is a failure of game design to me.

FOBS to me, gets away with it. There may be a bit of porn for dying/failing. But the actual reward is for succeeding.

It may be harsh but im tough on what i love and that is video games and porn.


Loved and purchased the sequal, never tried the original. Might do at some point.

losing in a game =checkpoint or title screen which is why its bad.
losing in a Hgame= Rape scene
they aren't the same. your thinking game design and thinking H-games should have it but it rarely makes sense for your main character to get raped on win. we aren't always here to see the victory screen that comes later.

 

[ɹǝʞoſ]

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your thinking game design and thinking H-games should have it but it rarely makes sense for your main character to get raped on win. we aren't always here to see the victory screen that comes later.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[AGamerPassingBy]

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Well, i for one actually prefer if H-games actually implemented Non-H-Games mechanics and make it work.
But i do agree that it isn't always logical having your character be raped instead being the rapist as a reward for victory.


If you ask me, the middle ground for this is making that you have to actually lose in a certain way to initiate GOR, or even better, multiple GORs on a single encounter depending on how/what you did before you lose. So, in a way, you're losing but actually winning, because in the end you managed to make the enemy do exactly what you want. Plus, that way players can't totally give up on the gameplay if they want to get it.

 

[Bupkis]

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Bruh, when gameplay is fun that's great. But when I play these games I'm not going in with the intent of doing anything other than beating the meat when that time comes. Jumping through a million hoops just to get to that end bit kills it.
In GOR games there's a difference. You lose to low level thing, cool. But now I want to see the monster that comes after that, then the one after that. Etc etc.
Being forced to slog through games that more often than not don't hold up on the gameplay side of things? Fuck that.

 

[AGamerPassingBy]

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Bruh, when gameplay is fun that's great.

Can people even disagree to this?

Well, i myself usually resort to CG galleries available online, extract the pictures, or uses other people's save files if the gameplay wasn't really fun.

 

[B00marrows]

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Bruh, when gameplay is fun that's great. But when I play these games I'm not going in with the intent of doing anything other than beating the meat when that time comes.

Thats completely agreeable.
I too have issues with games that fail to get the the sex quick.

Being forced to slog through games that more often than not don't hold up on the gameplay side of things? Fuck that.

Think of it like this:
Play up to monster 1, succeed. Unlock monster 1 for sex. Fuck monster 1 or continue to monster 2.

Play up to monster 1 fail/die, get sex. Reload/restart from before the fight go around monster 1 and continue to monster 2.
Which path seems more like a game and which feels backwards?

There are far too many "games" that are uninteresting, long, unprogressive or just plain backwards. They are just unplayable.

They aren't the same.
Your thinking game design and thinking H-games should have it but it rarely makes sense for your main character to get raped on win. we aren't always here to see the victory screen that comes later.

They are supposed to be games right? H-"games". But they fail on the basic fundamentals of games?
(just a side note, remember this is just my opinion)

Also, being raped doesnt have to be a failure state, FOBS proves that.

 

[Abandonedacc]

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They are supposed to be games right? H-"games". But they fail on the basic fundamentals of games?
(just a side note, remember this is just my opinion)

Also, being raped doesnt have to be a failure state, FOBS proves that.

At some point of MGQ i totally forget about the pron and i just rushed trought the history missing a lot of h-scenes, so yeah. (even worse when you go with the "Gud goy" attitude and skip all the optional battles, huge mistake...)

Some times i wish MGQ should have a variant of the battlefuck system from ROBF, at least paradox its not just game over rape with the affection system, but some scenes need to fall in monster temptation to see and those dont get archived in the monsterpedia for some reason.

 

[B00marrows]

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At some point of MGQ i totally forget about the pron and i just rushed trought the history missing a lot of h-scenes, so yeah. (even worse when you go with the "Gud goy" attitude and skip all the optional battles, huge mistake...)

Yeeeeep
Going back to "unlock" the failure porn was killer, i lost all enthusiasm and ended up just deleting the game.

 

[KenosKohler]

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Ahn, hi, i've been doing some research about the game to waste my time and because i'm really in love with this Zell's project and i've found some things that i wanted to show you. Maybe you've seen before, dunno, but i'll let it here anyway.

There's this area that we can't access and there's nothing but a useless portal and i think there will be two more portal in future:

Spoiler

There's some sprites in the game i've never seen in there:

Spoiler

And there's some more sprites, like one with skill icons that doesn't even exist. (just for now, maybe)

I've made this trainer just to waste my time and see those things in the game:

Spoiler

I didn't put all the game sprites and sounds here because i didn't know if it was worth the time, because i don't know if you guys would like to see something like this. (Some people may think it's kinda shit to rip the game sprites and hack it). I just want to let it clear that i don't want to destroy the game, make it unfun or something like this, i've played it 100%, i'm curious and wanted to know if there's some secret extra places/monsters/etc.

But if you want, i can zip everything i have and put it here. The sprites, wavs and the trainer too.

 

[RadeonX1950]

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There's some sprites in the game i've never seen in there:

Spoiler

And there's some more sprites, like one with skill icons that doesn't even exist. (just for now, maybe)

I've made this trainer just to waste my time and see those things in the game:

Spoiler

But if you want, i can zip everything i have and put it here. The sprites, wavs and the trainer too.

Did you see sprites in FOBS ver1.06? (link to my post about it)
Anyway, I'm interested about the trainer.

 

[Stubborn Chocolate]

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You managed to extract the sprites? Without any background? How? ;-;
Call me a noob if you may, but I've tried messing with the .txt, .actbin files, ect., But I've never got a clear sheet with just the sprites like that. Did you extract them yourself? Or is that a software you're using in that screenshot? btw, welcome aboard

 

[megamanxzeroaxel]

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Quite a large discussion of game mechanics seems to have taken place during my absence,I would have liked to join but I'm not that good in getting my point through without say...making a huge block of text.

On other news Zell's blog has a new post about the monstergirl poll.

It would seem the cat thief (the one with a dagger and leglock sex scene)

Has acquired first place with 1298 votes

And as the runner up we have the yamabiko girl in second place with 1237 votes

And in the 3rd place is none other than the cat girl sitting on a bench located in multiple places throughout the game with 1103 votes.

Those are the first 3 places,however places from 4 to ten are listed on zell's post.

An expected result for the first three places I would say.

 

[B00marrows]

Re: Zell23 game "Forest of the Blue Skin"

Quite a large discussion of game mechanics seems to have taken place during my absence,I would have liked to join but I'm not that good in getting my point through without say...making a huge block of text.

On other news Zell's blog has a new post about the monstergirl poll.

It would seem the cat thief (the one with a dagger and leglock sex scene)

Has acquired first place with 1298 votes

And as the runner up we have the yamabiko girl in second place with 1237 votes

And in the 3rd place is none other than the cat girl sitting on a bench located in multiple places throughout the game with 1103 votes.

Those are the first 3 places,however places from 4 to ten are listed on zell's post.

An expected result for the first three places I would say.

check this out:

You must be registered to see the links

Look at all the comments at the bottom

EDIT:
Sweet found my comment

 

[KenosKohler]

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Did you see sprites in FOBS ver1.06?

I haven't seen those, because i've known about FOBS in ver 1.08, heh. But there's some of these i've seen in his blog.

There's some sprites with a low quality standard, maybe made when he was still learning/training, and there's new ones, with the actual fobs quality, but still not in the game and i don't see a reason to not be in there, so i really think there's some sprites in use in another version, but he only let us download a "demo version". I think he made a bunch of new things a long time ago, but will only let us see working in a official non-alpha version or a new complete paid edition, something like that.

About the trainer: i'm working on an instant-area-teleport function, then i put it here, but i'm starting to think it's impossible, because i've realized that the way the game works is: you stay in the same place, just the things around you change the form and functions and the area you can walk increase/decrease, so you think you've teleported to another new location, but you didn't.

And with this information i could try some things with success: Change those things transformation with form and function. I can remap the game. Create a new one with new grounds/monsters/teleports/etc.(Just can't put new sprites in the game). But i won't work on it now. Just wait a few hours and i'll put the trainer here.

You managed to extract the sprites? Without any background? How? ;-;
Did you extract them yourself? Or is that a software you're using in that screenshot? btw, welcome aboard

Thanks <3 I'm really happy there's this place where people talk about FoBS, cause i don't know anyone who knows it outside here.
Hm, i've extracted the original big(Really big) sprites with an outdated plug-in of an outdated software that was useless here until now and then converted to PNG's.

 

[Abandonedacc]

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check this out:

You must be registered to see the links

Look at all the comments at the bottom

EDIT:
Sweet found my comment

Heh nothing changed, just hope to see new stuff cat burglar, wolf grill in a bench as a active character instead of a placeholder and capturable red cat grill.

Oh and capturable ????? too.... since all of those grills got a lot of votes. (Wow ghoul/vamp-like got a lot of votes too, would be nice a extra animation for her too)

in the other side damm: titfuck golem, Belly ghoul/oni? and ant grill, expected more for them and no even 300 votes..makes me sad.

 

[B00marrows]

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Heh nothing changed, just hope to see new stuff cat burglar, wolf grill in a bench as a active character instead of a placeholder and capturable red cat grill.

Oh and capturable ????? too.... since all of those grills got a lot of votes.

(Wow ghoul got a lot of votes too, would be nice a extra animation for her too)

Yeah i think hes going to put focus on the ones higher in the votes, so more likely to get pannels etc for higher number.