The Reputation Hilarity/Insanity thread

[Cappy]

Re: The Reputation Hilarity/Insanity thread

Seconded, I might just take it upon myself to browse a hook-up site for cannibalism enthusiasts out of curiousity. Doesn't mean I want to join them for dinner. Or MnF flash games.

 

[CyberPunk]

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He had said earlier that I don't have standards for playing MNF games, I just brought out the fact that he was lurking and causing chaos over that games' subforum. I don't want to bring out the past.

A peaceful subforum, which is constantly getting trolled is somewhat keeping users to discuss what they liked/hated about a game. I asked for a little help, I didn't want to start a new war.

I am being honest with you all as I had said earlier, I really don't like MNF games, but that doesn't mean I'll start bashing people who find it interesting. Hope the 'troll' understands my message. If he has any personal hate with someone, then he should come out front and sort out matters.

 

[Hentaispider]

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I have not, in fact, caused any chaos in the games' subforum. The only time I've even responded was when someone started accusing me of being the one to spam everyone with negreps.

 

[CyberPunk]

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I was the one who had accused you of negrepping based on the fact that you were keeping every other user in tab and were doing some suspicious activity in the MNF forum. If you've stopped doing the negrepping then I actually appreciate that. I've no hate against you or that troll, but we weren't harming anyone.

 

[Hentaispider]

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I never DID spam negreps, nor did I ever visit the profiles of people who frequent the subforum.

 

[CyberPunk]

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Idk, but as I said, we at MNF subforum could use some help. It'd help us move on I guess..

 

[DarkFire1004]

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I feel like this is getting really repetitive now. Can this subject just drop? Nothing good ever comes out of these discussions.

Edit - Sweet Jesus, Nunu's custom thing for me turned into an ad now.

 

[ToxicShock]

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I'll say this publicly to show my fairly neutral thoughts, despite clearly being in the corner of favored amongst the regulars and crucified amongst the MnF'ers.

We've had problems in the past with sub communities rep-cycling the shit out of each other every few minutes until they dominated the board in a very short time. These communities actually had to be banned because of copyright problems with what they were following, not so unlike some threatening issues we've had with the legality of MnF. And if the MnF community sticks within itself so much (which it does, since the users hardly leave the subforum, let alone the H section altogether) then I see no reason for you guys to have the reputation system. If it could be disabled altogether for the group, I'd do it. Having been negrepped en masse by the community, I can tell you that the less rep power you guys have, the better, even if that means you were all in the negative. Personally, after all my dealings, I have no idea why we've chosen to be so lenient and even allow it's existence in the forum and would rather not see an MnF section at all, but since I've been fine ignoring it, I think removing your power to affect the other parts of the forum that you clearly don't care about is a good compromise.

However, I'd rather not see that as anything other than preventative of future problems. I'd hate for it to be at the cost of negativity in the rep comments or provocation in the thread. I don't think people need to be mocked or insulted and I think as long as your rep power stayed negative, there wouldn't be a problem, so there isn't much need to continuously tank all MnF users into the red oblivion. And as I've stated before, if there is one thing that I think is a clear abuse of the anonymous rep system, it's signing it off as other users to provide even MORE provocation between users who aren't even involved. That is something I don't tolerate and would ban people for immediately, and it's something I HAVE already had peopled banned for.

If the point of this movement is to prevent them from having some modicum of power when they lash out as childishly as they do, then shouldn't we just leave it at taking away their power, not lashing out at them childishly first? As far as I'm concerned, having actually kept an eye on MnF from it's first thread, self-collapse is inevitable anyway, I just don't want to deal with red squares bitching at anyone in their CP in the meantime between two groups who don't see each other and would rather not see each other, save for maybe 2 users who actually have posted in both sections regularly.

 

[Unknown Squid]

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Of course it's getting repetitive. We let it linger and fester for well over half a year. The only reason any of us (spare perhaps the H section mods) have heard anything about the MnF section since it's creation is because someone has been going in there to start drama and create new problems to get dragged out here. But at least we have finally confronted the primary person that started and has been perpetuating this rep spam drama. The number of users put into the red is at least well over a hundred, so it might be a bit to ask for our new assistant admin to spend more free time on this, but resetting at least some peoples rep back to neutral would definitely help things move on. It's not very realistic to expect the subject to just get dropped any time soon when all that red will still last for months if left to fix itself.

Although what I think would be especially more beneficial long term, would also be adding a more specific entry into the forum rules to make it official that circle rep spam and deliberately stirring up shit en-mass won't be tolerated. It doesn't matter what anyone says along the lines of "Rep doesn't mean anything". If someone's using it to deliberately stir up drama, then we can deal with it the same way we've dealt with other trolls.

As annoying as this whole thing has been, and regardless of that odd sub-community's past or how awful the games are, I'm still not going to fall for blaming the recipients rather than the instigator. If this had been a group of 10 regulars that had been bombed into the red, we'd have likely put some effort into investigating and putting a stop to it months ago. I suggested the solution that has now been used, back in December 2014, when our traditional Admin was still present.

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Disabling rep power is another fair option perhaps. If that's something we're able to do. Need to get rid of the red squares though, since those just generate negativity merely by being there. I'll admit that one thing I had been concerned about, is that after all this long neg repping campaign might eventually end, it could potentially trigger a cyclic +rep culture in reaction. I do really detest circle repping.

 

[Mind Flayer]

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I've been getting complaints about this negrepping in the MnF section again, and AI told me to handle it with my best judgement. I dealt with it last time and thought it was over and done with, but apparently someone else wants to do it now. I will not say who it is now or who it was before in the effort of trying to put all of this to rest once and for all. However if they continue to spam negrep then I will deal with them accordingly, and by accordingly I'll reset your rep to the default as if you'd just joined the forum, so 10 fucking points. I will say though that the new negrepper has dished out 30 negreps between the 16th and the 19th, and that is spamming no matter how you look at it, and no matter what reasons you give in your defense of giving said negreps.

Now I'll go ahead and say that I'm not too fond of the MnF games myself because I think they're pretty poorly made games and the dialogue in them makes me want to vomit because it's so badly written at least 95% of the time. I believe in fairness and everything however, so I'm not going to just get rid of that section because a few people hate it with a passion. To each their own I say.

I've looked around and I can find no way to get rid of the rep stuff for specific people, just everyone or nothing. So what Toxic said about that isn't possible as far as I can see unfortunately.

If anyone starts spamming negrep, to anyone at all, then send me a PM about it. I don't care who it is, if someone is spamming negrep to stir up drama or to simply attack somebody because they're too scared to do it where the one getting attacked can know who they are, then I need to know so I can deal with it. Because it's childish and does nothing but stir up trouble that the admins have to deal with in the end. I'd rather not throw the entire rep system out the window unless I have to.

So stop spamming negrep! If you don't like the MnF section and the games, then just don't go there.

Also Darkfire, I can change your title if you want, just let me know what you'd like it changed to, or I can set it so you can do your own if you'd rather.

 

[Antithetical Inquiry]

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If I keep hearing about negreps and MnF, I'd advocate getting rid of both. Server space is cheap, and if the community is creating that much of a headache, we can remove their desire to be here, then dust off the banhammer for individual infractions when they start creating problems elsewhere on the board.

If they still want to remain s community, there's places to buy server space and a board.

 

[super_slicer]

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Gotta agree with you there, while I don't have anything against the MnF section, it seems to be more trouble than it's worth.

As far as the neg-rep system, all I've really seen it used for is as a way for people to attack others anonymously. So yeah, as you're all probably well aware already, I could do without that too.

*que the neg-rep stream*

 

[Hentaispider]

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As far as the neg-rep system, all I've really seen it used for is as a way for people to attack others anonymously. So yeah, as you're all probably well aware already, I could do without that too.

Given how much positive rep YOU have, I don't think you're being entirely honest with that statement.

 

[CyberPunk]

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I don't want any hate against the MNF followers, some people like it big, some like it small, it's just a matter about taste. So why make such a big deal out of this?

I didn't ask a creation of a new subforum. A subforum exists which is an integral part of ulmf is getting trolled every now and then. If the mods know who they are, then they should act to it as if a person was attacking them.

 

[ToxicShock]

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A subforum exists which is an integral part of ulmf

no

 

[Unknown Squid]

Re: The Reputation Hilarity/Insanity thread

If I keep hearing about negreps and MnF, I'd advocate getting rid of both. Server space is cheap, and if the community is creating that much of a headache, we can remove their desire to be here, then dust off the banhammer for individual infractions when they start creating problems elsewhere on the board.

If they still want to remain s community, there's places to buy server space and a board.

Not to look like I'm trying too hard to defend them or the strange sub section, but as I said, the only reason any of us have actually heard anything about them for the last 8 months, is because a regular has been going there to anonymously attack them. They've not exactly been causing any infractions of late spare the crime of still existing. For the most part I'd actually say they've stayed remarkably quiet and submissive about it all things considered.

I'm sure people are wondering why the hell I care at all about this, but it's simply the principle. I simply don't like our forum having rules about not bullying and instigating drama, and then seeming to turn a blind eye when it suits us because we don't care for the victims and would rather defend the culprit. Leaves a bad taste, and just isn't how things should be done.

If we want to decide for separate reasons that the sub section shouldn't exist here, then I've no issue with that at all. But the reason shouldn't be because some troll has made it his life mission for the last half year to try and personally drive them off.

I agree with adopting Flayers policy of resetting the rep of anyone that abuses it from this point on. Seems a simple and effective deterrent to me, without needing to ban anyone for childish things. You either use your rep power maturely, or you lose your right to wield it. Should help discourage this kind of nonsense coming up again in future.

 

[Caulder]

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I'm in favor of disabling the Rep system entirely.

What good does it do? Absolutely nothing.

What bad does it do? It consistently provides a method of trolling those with thinner skin, a method of being an anonymous douchebag with little to no repercussions, and another avenue of generating pointless drama that just makes life harder for the moderation team.

Call me an extremist, but this is the best option in my opinion, to stop all this douchebaggery and trolling.

 

[Termite]

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I'll have to agree with what Twisted and Toxic said in the Shout: I enjoy reading new rep messages. Especially when it leads to Reputation Hilarity.

 

[Iggy]

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I'll have to agree with what Twisted and Toxic said in the Shout: I enjoy reading new rep messages. Especially when it leads to Reputation Hilarity.

I agree with this 100% It's a shame that small-minded people use it of a way of anonymously asserting their authority on others.

To TRY and get back on track. Here's one from last december that got me a chuckle.

0_o I see what you did there...lol -V

 

[CyberPunk]

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I beg everyone's pardon for derailing this thread and thank those who supported what was right. *heads back to cave*